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  1. That is a very good idea! I also don't have a lot of confidence but I actually think it might be the most entertaining thing to watch through the whole episode! I know what to do tomorrow morning - if I am awake early - or tomorrow.
  2. The best scene of the season! It was to see Bran use his powers in full glory
  3. I think we should remember for a moment those poor Meereense Noble and poor Hizzy who was married to a monster It isn't the first time she fed people to her dragons, used fire to kill people nor to force people on their knees (even to marry her).
  4. The question would better be why would the Children of the Forest who actually have a culture/religious belief which make them "go into trees" at their end of their life and whose leaders are able to see their whole past make drawings like prehistoric people. This whole episode was awful. All the fighting scenes are just added to keep the attention from the fact they cannot write the story. And I am never forgive them for how they treating Bran's storyline.
  5. Thanks. I think it will be important to Bran to balance those two. I think he has to learn his powers to get ready for the fight against the Others, nevertheless his powers are still a danger and they should be feared. Otherwise he might turn into a second Euron and I think nobody wants that. Bran has something Euron never had: the words and teachings of Eddard Stark. And I think in all the Stark's children stories we learned how much worth those words and teachings are. An example can even be found in Bran's vision we are now discussing. Just like you are saying: Great found, RR! Wow Taking Bran's whole story in context they might indeed hint at bigger mysteries. Bran's quest is about discovering the truths long forgotten by the First Men and the House Stark. So this is also another appropriate interpretation Riding a horse and skinchanging actually have the same meaning. They resemble both to Bran freedom, a freedom to walk, dance, ... He feels restricted by the fact he cannot walk any longer. Through riding and skinchanging he can emancipate himself and feel independent and be free from the body that is Bran the Broken. Wow. I do remember Jon going on about Robb and snow in his hair but I didn't remember it also in Arya's and Sansa's chapters. I actually don't think it has to be about someone to die in order to usher in the spring? All those quote are about Robb. Robb is being associated with melting snow in his hair. And "The joy Bran had felt at the ride was gone, melted away like the snowflakes on his face. Not so long ago, the thought of Robb calling the banners and riding off to war would have filled him with excitement, but now he felt only dread." Joy is melting away. Joy = calling banners and riding of to war? Robb going south and fighting the Lannister was a source of hope to the Starks. He would go save Ned, save his sisters, save the North, ... but Robb and his army melted away in the South just like snow in the summer. And "I should have thought that heat ill suits you Starks," Littlefinger said. "Here in the south, they say you are all made of ice, and melt when you ride below the Neck."; "Robb took it hard. "Mother, what are we going to do? I brought this whole army together, eighteen thousand men, but I don't … I'm not certain …" He looked to her, his eyes shining, the proud young lord melted away in an instant, and quick as that he was a child again, a fifteen-year-old boy looking to his mother for answers." We've tossed some seeds in the wind, that's all. If your sister Lysa was coming to aid us, we would have heard by now. How many birds have we sent to the Eyrie, four? I want peace too, but why should the Lannisters give me anything if all I do is sit here while my army melts away around me swift as summer snow? "Robb stood on the dais. He is a boy no longer, she realized with a pang. He is sixteen now, a man grown. Just look at him. War had melted all the softness from his face and left him hard and lean. He had shaved his beard away, but his auburn hair fell uncut to his shoulders. The recent rains had rusted his mail and left brown stains on the white of his cloak and surcoat. Or perhaps the stains were blood. On his head was the sword crown they had fashioned him of bronze and iron. He bears it more comfortably now. He bears it like a king" "Near three hundred riders and twice as many mounts, melted away in the night." Robb rubbed his temples, where the crown had left its mark in the soft skin above his ears. "All the mounted strength of Karhold, lost." Tell Howland Reed that he is to send guides to me, two days after I have started up the causeway. To the center battle, where my own standard flies. Three hosts will leave the Twins, but only two will reach Moat Cailin. Mine own battle will melt away into the Neck, to reemerge on the Fever. If we move swiftly once my uncle's wed, we can all be in position by year's end. We will fall upon the Moat from three sides on the first day of the new century, as the ironmen are waking with hammers beating at their heads from the mead they'll quaff the night before." (might this be a foreshadowing of the coming battle in the North? Interesting... Thank you I wrote this with the intention of focusing on something which is forgotten by a lot of people: Bran's story is about a young kid who is dealing with own trauma's. A lot of people are so focused on the magic and on the mythological aspects they forget the human aspect of it's story. And thus human aspect like Bran's fears are quite important to describe his development of Bran's powers. It are his fears which have a profound effect if he chose or don't chose to develop them. It will also be Bran's desire to be free from his disability which might have consequence he is going to use his powers to live on in Summer, ... Amidst our theories on magical powers, the old gods, ... I wanted to put a little attention on the little kid behind our god to be (and our next King of Winter?) and to humanize him. Because, next to the fact I am quite similar to his desire of knowledge, Bran is my favourite character no matter his horrible experiences he is still able to find hope amidst all the ruins "At the edge of the wolfswood, Bran turned in his basket for one last glimpse of the castle that had been his life. Wisps of smoke still rose into the grey sky, but no more than might have risen from Winterfell's chimneys on a cold autumn afternoon. Soot stains marked some of the arrow loops, and here and there a crack or a missing merlon could be seen in the curtain wall, but it seemed little enough from this distance. Beyond, the tops of the keeps and towers still stood as they had for hundreds of years, and it was hard to tell that the castle had been sacked and burned at all. The stone is strong, Bran told himself, the roots of the trees go deep, and under the ground the Kings of Winter sit their thrones. So long as those remained, Winterfell remained. It was not dead, just broken. Like me, he thought. I'm not dead either."
  6. Your welcome. Your posts are always very interesting, especially your Pinocchio one I don't think anyone did. I did talk once about the fact Luwin is "chained" just like Bran who is also "a wolf chained to the ground", and that maesters wearing chains can also be seen metaphorical they are blind to certain magical realities (somewhere in my discussions of Plato's allegory and Bran's storyline). But I cannot think of something else? I do think it might be interesting to compare the similarities between them also maybe looking at Marwyn, Quaithe and the glass candles.
  7. Thanks @ravenous reader, @Blue-Eyed Wolf and @The Weirwoods Eyes Ned was certainly lying to Robert because he loved him and not out of anything malicious. Personally, I also think Robert didn't deserve Ned but I personally also think Ned was the one Robert (truly) did love the most. His love for Ned couldn't just change the fact he takes always the easy way when he is being comforted emotionally. GRRM set their dynamic really beautiful up. While the readers can see that Robert isn't the knight in shining armor, we do see Ned actually believing that Robert is: "he Lord of Storm's End had been clean-shaven, clear-eyed, and muscled like a maiden's fantasy. Six and a half feet tall, he towered over lesser men, and when he donned his armor and the great antlered helmet of his House, he became a veritable giant. He'd had a giant's strength too, his weapon of choice a spiked iron warhammer that Ned could scarcely lift. In those days, the smell of leather and blood had clung to him like perfume." Even more, he believes Robert is his knight in shining armor, Robert is going to save him for the second time from the evil dragons (first the Targaryens and then the Lannisters): "This was the boy he had grown up with, he thought; this was the Robert Baratheon he'd known and loved. If he could prove that the Lannisters were behind the attack on Bran, prove that they had murdered Jon Arryn, this man would listen. Then Cersei would fall, and the Kingslayer with her, and if Lord Tywin dared to rouse the west, Robert would smash him as he had smashed Rhaegar Targaryen on the Trident. He could see it all so clearly." But through AGOT we see his image cracking piece-by-piece until Robert, his dragonslayer, turned into the dragon himself: "Ned could not let that happen again. The realm could not withstand a second mad king, another dance of blood and vengeance. He must find some way to save the children." A lot of fans keep saying how it is his honor that killed Ned. Personally I don't think so (there are many factors). One of the main reasons he died is the fact he told Cersei to run. Ned believing Robert would hurt children and was another monster lead him to warn Cersei and his own death. Ned was killed by his lack of faith in his friend, a lack of faith which Robert created himself by his own (true) personality and actions.
  8. I liked her in Me Befor You.
  9. Thanks How GRRM describes the passing of time, makes it a little like time is passing be without Bran and co realizing how much. There are actually at this moment in the otherworld. You did? I admit I didn't read every post in this thread It is the same singer as the one from the Gladiator WOW. I already thought my part of the information I found was so similar to the story of the First Men and the CotF. But this make the similarities even bigger! Haha. I do admit, though I might not be a poet or an artistic writer, my daily job does exist of exercising the power of the word (legal profession). My legal texts are just more boring to read than poems or stories. LOL. The hill was rather inspiring, especially because it was very misty and windy. We were standing on the hill but we couldn't see anything except for the raven who was flying near us. Yes. I think he will or he even already did. If you do believe he is actually already interfering in Winterfell and in the North during aDwD - you might say one of purposes of the Bran's Powers Reread Thread is to prove this - he is a 'god' 'composing' (his wind whispers to Theon) "to flay the corrupt the kingdoms". He tries to free the North from the Boltons. @evita mgfs even wrote an thread on the subject in the Reread - How Bran May Display his Growing Powers in “A Ghost in Winterfell (x); " "What follows are speculations proposing that Bran involves himself in the mysterious deaths of several members of the northern contingency. A few of the fallen are blamed for their own demise by the lords that they serve. Others who die are beloved by their lords yet not as much by the readers, many of whom are cognizant of their vile deeds deserving of punishment." She says even at one moment the magic working at Winterfell is turning people's own words against themselves Personally I think this is actually an example how Bran's two identities, the Stark of Winterfell and the greenseer, aren't actually conflicted. They are the same, they are intertwined. Bran is being a greenseer and the Stark of Winterfell. Bran could indeed be the antidote. Euron failed Bloodraven's test unlike Bran. It would be interesting to see the two apprentices against each other? On the other hand I am really rooting for Aeron to be the one responsible for Euron's downfal. Euron is really Aeron's enemy. Until now there hasn't been a real conflict between Bran and Euron while there is been one (from the beginning) between Aeron and Euron.
  10. It will be very interesting at least if it happens. Nevertheless I do want Bran to realize skinchanging Hodor is wrong.
  11. Interview from the Premiere. LOL Isaac's face
  12. https://www.thefandomentals.com/the-afterthought-starks/ "The thing about writing about show!Bran is that there isn’t much to write about, except Bran’s non-presence as a character in his own story since season three. Season six showed glimmers of improvement, as Bran reacted to some of the things he learned in his flashbacks. He asked to stay longer to watch his father as a child. He sought out additional information. He interacted with Bloodraven and his uncle (though the non-reaction to Hodor’s death was as offensive under the circumstances as it was baffling) like he was an actual person with actual relationships. A lot of that was Isaac Hempstead-Wright giving his all to bring some life to a character whose plot was watching flashbacks. It’s all the more devastating to see that this season, he’s literally devoid of everything that made him Bran Stark. This is a character boiled down to pure functionality. He’s empty of everything except exposition and cryptic dialogue. There’s no sense of sacrifice. No sense of struggle. No sense of motivation or desire. Bran touched a tree last season, and the reveal of Jon’s parentage knocked all the character out of him. I honestly don’t have the words to describe how upsetting I find this. Bran’s storyline has been treated as an inconvenient obligation for a long time, and now it’s culminating with the convenient obliteration of Bran as a character, without much sense that this was a choice Bran made, or that this loss of personhood is a temporary thing that will fade as Bran gains expertise with his powers. The Three-Eyed Raven sure wasn’t as emotionless and disconnected from reality as Bran is right now. Perhaps worst of all, this decision is anti-empathy. If Bran doesn’t care about anything, not even being reunited with a sister who hasn’t seen him for years and believed him dead for a good part of that time, what’s there to care about in Bran’s character?"
  13. What I really like about the books are the many different examples of love. You have indeed romantic love, but there is also friendship, loyalty, brotherhood, ... I am rooting for a Gendry&Arya, Sansa&Sandor, Val&Jon and Jaime&Brienne as romantic relationships. But even without any romance Gendry&Arya, Sansa&Sandor and Jaime&Brienne are still one of the most interesting relationships in the books. They have just built up very good Other relationships I like are: Jeyne and Robb: sweet but not that passionate; "Jeyne makes him smile"; "You had no right. Robb had it made for me. I loved him." Ned and Cat: also sweet but also sometimes 'passionate', or at least Cat's thoughts; "He yearned for the comfort of Catelyn's arms"; "The greatsword Ice was across his lap (...) watching the sword as he stroked it (...) He slid Ice back into its sheath) Arya and Jon: brother-sister bound are the best; "Needle was Jon Snow's smile"; "And Arya … he missed her even more than Robb, skinny little thing that she was, all scraped knees and tangled hair and torn clothes, so fierce and willful" Robb and Theon: very tragic friendship: "He's been a hostage half his life."; And Robb. Robb who had been more a brother to Theon than any son born of Balon Greyjoy's loins. Murdered at the Red Wedding, butchered by the Freys. I should have been with him. Where was I? I should have died with him. Meera and Bran: "my prince" "my lady" Robb and Bran: brothers "And afterward, we'll ride north to see the Wall. We won't even tell Jon we're coming, we'll just be there one day, you and me. It will be an adventure."; "He wished Robb were with them now" Ned and Cat and their kids: parents and their children Tyrion and Jaime And many more... But the relationship I always will find the most interesting is Eddard and Robert. It is probably the tragic and completely doomed relationships are always the ones I think are the most interesting. It is really sad to see how Ned's image of Robert as his knightly dragon-slayer changes in Robert being the evil dragon. But on the other hand it is beautiful that even after Ned starts to fear Robert is another Aerys, he still loves his friend unconditionally. Beautiful but really sad
  14. The fact Arya ignores Moat Cailin must have been some reference to earlier "let's go around MC of Brienne", no?
  15. LOL. I actually referenced to this poem in our book thread during our talk about Bran as a sword (first by you and later by me) Personally I wrote on this subject: (after some very interesting talk on the phallic symbolism of Ice as Ned's big sword from Cat's POV - " Anyway, you might also be able to compare Ice to Bran. Both have been cleansed by Ned in the godswood. Ice is here being cleansed in the black pool. The metal is also described as a "dark glow." There is a "rippling deep within the steel" which reminds me of the dancing and shimmer reflections of the weirwood. Both are magical and both are connected to the Starks and the Kings in the North. Both even bear names from the time of the age of heroes: Brandon and Ice." "And this connection made the following quote of ravenous reader interesting: Going further on this. The squirrel reference does indicate indeed the fact the Starks are losing him to Bloodraven and the greenseers. But this does contrast then the fact of Bran being compared to Ice, a symbol of the Starks. IMO this duality (or paradox?) is actually one of the biggest storylines or questions of identity in Bran's storyline. Who is Bran? Is he the heir and part of the legacy of the Starks who were Kings in the North? Or is he a greenseer and an old god? I think this question of this two contrasting(?) identities is most clearly present in his SL of ACOK. In these books you have at one hand his training as the Stark in Winterfell and on the other hand his training as greenseer. From the moment he leaves WF, the focus gets on him being trained as a greenseer. And this is sort of symbolized in the death the two people who trained him as the Stark in Winterfell (Maester Luwin and Ser Rodrik). However his connection to Winterfell is not completely dead: "The stone is strong, Bran told himself, the roots of the trees go deep, and under the ground the Kings of Winter sit their thrones. So long as those remained, Winterfell remained. It was not dead, just broken. Like me, he thought. I'm not dead either" And never forget the fact he is still called as their prince and as the true heir by the Reeds. Several people do tend ignore the fact Bran has also a deep connection to Winterfell. And when people want to argue the theory Bran will never be KitN or the Lord of Winterfell, they do tend also sometimes to use the argument Bran is too busy with playing greenseer. IMO the one identity does not really exclude the other identity. Bran can be a greenseer and the Lord of Winterfell at the same time. It is not for nothing Winterfell does represent a tree and Bran as warg can skinchange the symbol of his house. So personally I do see those actually not as two things in contrast. Another sad interesting similarity between the fact Bran is said to be "broken" and the fact Ice is reforged into two swords. (and the Lannisters are responsible for both actions). Firstly, it is possible to say the two swords take also up two contrasting role. While one part gets into the hands of Joffrey and later Tommen, the other part Oathkeeper is placed into the hands of Brienne so she will be able to find and protect the daughters of Ned Stark (aka the lineage of House Stark). One of the dual roles of the "broken" boy and the "broken" sword are both related to the (protection of) the lineage of the Starks. Secondly, several elements that refer to the legacy of the Starks are broken. You have first Bran calls himself Bran the Broken, who apparently will have never any children and who is presumed to be dead (just like the other male heir Rickon). Further you have Winterfell, the castle of the Starks. In ACOK this castle is turned into a ruin and, it might be called broken, just like Bran the castle is not really dead. Another broken element is Ice. The Lannisters took the sword and reforged it into two swords. They tried to destroy the Starkness of it, but they failed ("Your father had asked for the crimson of your House, and that was that color I set out to infuse into the metal. But Valyrian steel is stubborn. These old swords remember (LOL), it is said, and they do not change easily. I worked half a hundred spells and brightened the red time and time again, but always the color would darken, as if the blade was drinking the sun from it.). The family of Ned Stark is also broken and not longer together. They (the Boltons, the Lannisters) also tried to destroy them, but they also still remain. All those elements do have the same characteristics. They are part of the Starks'/Ned's line or legacy. The Lannisters, the Boltons and other enemies tried to destroy them. But while they are broken, they are still not destroyed and they still remain. (And they will hopefully be restored ) I did search some symbolism behind broken swords and I found this: https://books.google.be/books?id=_p7DAgAAQBAJ&pg=PA325&lpg=PA325&dq=symbolism+broken+sword&source=bl&ots=7zevqJlyNw&sig=R764khUz-SsQl6de2YLr85D4GNc&hl=nl&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj5wdqs9_DOAhXDORoKHUEyD_8Q6AEIHDAA#v=onepage&q=symbolism broken sword&f=false An example of one of those medieval legends is the one of Sigurd. His father's sword was broken during the fight between his father and a dragon. After Sigurd had reforged his father's sword, he revenges the death of his father and names himself as king. This legend was probably used as one of the inspiration for the story of Aragorn, who also reforged his ancestral sword, revenges his father and becomes king... (and then I mentioned the poem) --- Something interesting during the conversation between Olenna and Jaime was the mentioning of Widow's maker/wail or however Joffrey named his sword. Jaime and Brienne have the both parts of Ice. What if they get together, meet a certain blacksmith (aka Gendry) and they reforge Ice? (Note: from practical point of view, this is actually kind of idiotic. Two swords are more useful than one big sword which cannot be used in fights) Would it not be symbolic if during the same episode Bran is also "reforged"/unbroken and gets out of his emotionless state? Let's hope for this!