Humble Maester

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  1. Its for both reasons of narrative and for their actions: Tywin: Narratively Tywin is a villain because he is a villain for most of the "heroes" of the series. Ned does not hide his distain and Tyrion hates him. He fights and destroys valiant Robb. Etc. And of course Tywin is well known for: massacring rebel vassals, ordering gang-rape, ordering murder of children, ordering pillaging of peasants etc. Not that he is the only one but he is the only one whose handiwork we witness in the series first-hand. Jaime: Narratively, again, Ned "the hero" shows dislike towards him from early on. Although through Tyrion he does get a bit of a softer side. And of course he wasn't a "good guy" either, killing his King (though we learn he had his reason) and being an antagonist to Ned, injuring him and killing his men. Cersei: Early on she is another one of the "Lannisters" that are like flies buzzing around Robert and also an early antagonist to the hero Ned. Later on she goes Aerys-level insane more or less. She is the one actually most like a villain of the Lannisters if you ask me. Joff: Well ok, Joff was pretty much there too but he was a child. Still even he, clearly a creature of his mother, spent most of the first time making Lannisters look bad. Tommen&Myrcella: They be okey! Tyrion: Black sheep of the family and thus not a villain, more of a hero. Hates his father, dislikes his sister, those villainous curs. Of course not quite as good of a guy as he seems, especially in the later books. Even as someone who considers Tywin his favourite I can easily see why Tywin and his clan would be seen as the villains of the series, at least in the Game-aspect.
  2. Cheers! I think the Tywin-Tyrion relationship is one of the more interesting ones in the books to interpret and analyse, largely due to us getting nearly all the information about it from the fan-favorite Tyrion, who, while having real issues with his father, always sees everything his father does or says through the worst possible point of view. I can easily understand, after Tyrion keeps calling his father out on literally everything, why so many people think of Tywin as an inhumane monster. On the other hand if we "listen" to the other people around Tywin, take what Tyrion says with the understanding of the deep dislike he has for his father, and consider what Tywin was actually doing, then we can construct a more accurate picture of a Tywin as a harsh and extremely demanding father who was loathe to show emotions but still put his family and especially those who met his expectations first. After all he was making Tyrion permanent member of the council due to his obvious skill, while planning to ship Cersei away for her screwups.
  3. I suppose there are at least two possibilities. Its possible that Tywin felt same as Randyll Tarly, that it would be unbecoming of his son to be servant for others, though I think the more likely option is that Tyrion simply preferred the lifestyle he had. It was not like in the case of Samwell that his father would had been forcing great expectations of a heir on him, so he was free to do much as he liked as long as he did not do anything so notorious that the word would get out. He was free to read, to drink, to whore with his father's money, as long as he was discrete about it. Pretty decent life for a dwarf in that society. Actually third option, maybe maesterdom simply isn't open for dwarves, or they would have difficulties performing the tasks?
  4. "The big mystery" does not mean its the only mystery, just that its the most significant one, you know? Plenty of room for other mysteries. I think a good deal of ASOIAF readers would agree that Jon's parentage is the biggest one, though. And I think if GRRM indeed asked D&D about the answer to that mystery as a test to see if they understood the series, then he probably agrees on its importance too. Also I am interested in that quote about Ned's height too. I tried to look for it myself on search of ice and fire but no luck. Please provide.
  5. I guess you managed to say in few words what I spent many to say. Oh well. That's the question, isn't it? I am not an expert on Braavos related matters but I don't think we know what kind of ties exist between those three great institutions of Braavos. We really haven't gotten as thorough a picture of the power dynamics in Braavos as we have in King's Landing, for example. I have read theories on these forums about how any and all of those parties are cooperating for a wide range of purposes but for the most part those theories have been based on conjecture. I guess the answer is, who the hell knows
  6. The Iron Bank, while a very important institution in Braavos, does not represent all of Braavos, or that is at least my take on it. The bank's is not interested in dynastic squabbles but in getting back the debt Cersei very unwisely declined to pay. So if there was a party that had a decent change of victory and that would take on all the debt Robert had incurred, then presumably they'd support that party. I don't think such a party with high enough chance of success exists, though, so I doubt they'd pick another horse if and when Stannis fails. I don't think Doran will be in any position to pay the debt even if his faction won, not being a contender himself, so they'd rather support Aegon or Daenarys, though anti-dragon bias may come into that.
  7. I am fairly certain engaging someone who thinks Tywin would had ordered Tommen to be gang-raped in a conversation will never lead to the two of us reaching an accord on the topic of what Tywin was but, well, one reason being an unapologetic Tywin fanboy is fun is because there is so much unearned hate directed towards him (on top of all the well deserved hate Tywin gets). It is true that before the WotFK Tywin largely left Tyrion on his own, though he did bankroll his rather luxurious lifestyle, whoring and all, with his personal servants as long as he was willing to stay in Westeros. After Tyrion proved himself useful by getting himself out of Lysa's clutches with some troops loyal to him, Tywin did apparently start seeing more worth in him. And I am fairly sure Tywin was satisfied with how Tyrion handled the situation in King's Landing if it was not for him threatening his own family to protect a whore he had brought with him against the explicit orders of Tywin. And as I mentioned before he did get amply rewarded for his good work in the city, even after his screw ups, even if he was himself bitter about not getting to stay as the Hand, which had been explicitly stated to be a temporary position, and not getting a loving wife on top of getting one of the most prestigious matches in the Seven Kingdoms while being a disfigured dwarf. I am loath to comment on any of your more colorful (and, to be frank, idiotic and non-text based) claims but I am interested, which family member did Tywin have gang-raped or whipped? I might be having temporary lapse of memory but I thought that the prestige of those who shared his name was pretty much the most important think for him? He was willing to let Tyrion get away with murdering his nephew, the king, even after how much he didn't personally like Tyrion, just to avoid a Lannister losing his head publicly. Or if you are going to say Tysha, okey, I don't think anyone considered her to be a Lannister :|
  8. I don't think there was any very effective defense of the royal children against Clegane and Lorch who were scaling the walls, the whole situation seemed fairly chaotic, so there might not had been anyone to take them away. And good point is, where were they going to take them anyways, the war was lost. But it is clear that fighting was going on even after Aerys had been killed, and that Jaime commanded his father's men to spare any who would wish to yield after presumably hearing this.
  9. Which Tywin does admit when Tyrion is whining about not getting enough pats on his back: Before this Tywin has, by the way, multiple times inquired about Tyrion's well being and told him he visited him multiple times when he was at his worst and unconscious after the battle. Tyrion of course blows this whole conversation by ending it by demanding that he is given Casterly Rock, after which Tywin reminds him that Tyrion is definitely not a man worthy of it, not just because of what he is but also because what he did. Continued by the real beef... I am not saying Tywin would had been ready to give the Rock to Tyrion if he hadn't done exactly what Tywin warned him not to do but I am pretty sure he would had at least received a bit more credit for what he had done.
  10. I don't think we can really make any accurate predictions for much more than the duration of the Tarbeck-Reyne rebellion and its immediate aftermath, as Tywin had such a significant, probably the most significant, role in this the history of Westeros from that rebellion until the beginning of the books, so its possible that pretty much everything could had changed. With regards the rebellion if the only significant change in the battle between Lannister forces and Reynes was Tywin's dead, then I think the Reynes would had probably survived their rebellion though seriously weakened. I don't think Kevan, who presumably would had taken control, would had been ruthless nor ingenious enough to use a river to deal with all the Reynes in the way Tywin did. Thus Tytos would had most likely had enough time to intervene but I doubt he would had let the Reynes with a slap on the wrist after they had killed his heir while in rebellion, and at this point they would had already lost the rebellion on the field. Thus I think their threat in Westerlands would had been greatly weakened, though with Tytos' weak rule the situation in the west would had hardly grown stable but I don't think there was imminent threat of a rebellion either, especially if Kevan had proven himself after Tywin died. Kevan himself would probably not be quite as ambitious ruler as Tywin after Tytos' dead so who knows what he would do but I do think he had it in him to be much better than his father at the very least. Although I do see the possibility of Tywin's death collapsing Lannisters, one must remember he did not have the reputation back then as he did later on and thus the morale from his loss might not had been that bad if Kevan pulled through.
  11. To be fair, Tyrion does do his utmost to screw up every opportunity he gets to show Tywin his ability. I am not even going to get into his childhood marriage and the tragic and horrific end that came to but even in King's Landing he did exactly what Tywin had told him not to do, to not take his prostitute surrogate-lover to court which ended up with Tyrion making threats against his own family to protect the prostitute. Any good will Tyrion might had gained with Tywin for his apt handling of the situation in King's Landing went mostly down the drain with that. Also Tyrion would had lost the city and his life if it was not for his father and the Tyrells arriving to kick Stannis' ass. Although Tywin did award Tyrion with one of the most important positions in the realm and a wife of great prestige even after that, so who knows. Tywin probably does recognize than even after all of Tyrion's screw ups Tyrion is still a Lannister that Tywin can have use for. Well at least until the alleged regicide but that's something only Jaime could get away with.
  12. That's just from the wiki synopsis but if I recall correctly its accurate.
  13. Ah, my bad then, suppose I should pay more attention.
  14. Though, to be fair, Tywin has a long character from childhood so he would had probably made his opinion heard on this matter too, and if he did I don't really blame him. Even the most rational human beings have difficulties when judging issues relating to themselves and if Tywin truly had fallen for Joanna before their marriage, then that was it. I wouldn't call that marriage lopsided (they were both Lannisters) but maybe not strategically the best option. Also I don't think anyone has mentioned the most lopsided marriage (mentioned) in all of the series. The marriage of Crown Prince Duncan (the Small) and Jenny of Oldstones, so lopsided it cost him the crown.
  15. I thought GRRM had made it pretty clear in the past that when he is done he will announce it without any theatrics and drama, no? I know its nice to ride on the hypetrain, especially when its new and shiny, but it is bound to lead to a disappointment unless it actually has a station to reach. Woo tortured allegory.