maudisdottir

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  1. Maybe no-one did it. Maybe he was cremated right there where he died. Therefore, when they cremated him, "as is traditional for fallen Targaryens" (so we know SOMEONE must have) they didn't necessarily have to "recover" him, because he was right there. They would only need to "recover" him if they were taking him somewhere to cremate him, but we don't know that they did. So GRRM wasn't required to answer that part of the question if there wasn't an answer to give.
  2. You really think Ned has been haunted by his dying sister's memory for the last fifteen years because he was slack about watering flowers? "Price" doesn't mean money, not in this context. But you knew that.
  3. To keep her son safe.
  4. I'm not arguing that my interpretation is better or more correct, just that the passage isn't literal or metaphor-free. Hence the tasting of molten gold doesn't necessarily mean she's familiar with that taste, which was the original claim of the OP.
  5. I think we are working from two very different interpretations of "none of them". Correct me if I'm wrong, but you're assuming that "it was all the tastes she had ever known, and none of them" means "it was all the tastes she had ever known AS WELL AS none of them" ie it was a bunch of tastes she knew, plus a bunch she didn't. Whereas I'm taking it to mean something along the lines of "it was all the tastes she had ever known, yet at the same time they were all unrecognisable". Which fits right in with her trippy, drug-induced, non-literal hallucinations.
  6. English is my first and only fluent language and I understand it quite well, thanks very much. Nice and patronising of you. How is that literal? "It was all the tastes she had ever known" - that's literal? How can someone, in one sip, distinguish every flavour she had ever tasted? "and none of them" - again, how is that literal? If it was none of the tastes she had ever known, she would not recognise them. My point is - it's NOT LITERAL! It's a trippy hallucinogenic ride she's going on, and the tastes she's experiencing are bringing up a lot of feelings, memories, emotions etc. It doesn't mean "she skinchanged Viserys at the time of his death so she knows what he tasted when he died." Which is not to say the sorcerers in the HotU aren't giving her some kind of insight into Viserys' feelings - AFTER the event. Also re mother's milk - she wouldn't know what her mother's milk tasted like, because her mother died in childbirth. If she did feed Dany, it would have been only briefly, and Dany wouldn't know the LITERAL taste of her mother's milk because whoever nursed her afterwards wasn't HER mother.
  7. Ned wasn't just protecting Jon, he was protecting Catelyn and the children. It's safer for her not to know anything, then she has nothing to be tortured/bribed/blackmailed over.
  8. But you're making that assumption. She never says that. And nobody has addressed "and none of them". How does that work in this metaphor-free passage?
  9. Because there's nothing in the text to suggest it. Does Dany ever mention anything about experiencing how he felt?
  10. I have neither the power nor the inclination to tell people what they can and can't discuss. I can, however, give my opinion, which is that it's a huge stretch to ascribe some of the things people are in this thread e.g. Dany had a telekinetic link to Viserys at the time of his death. Also using words like "undeniable" when proposing a theory. MY opinion is that people are overthinking this.
  11. What's that if not a metaphor/figure of speech? Or is George literally saying "Dany does not know any of these tastes?"
  12. Why does it have to be one of those two options? We don't know, that's my point. There could be many other things going on and again, we don't know until George tells us.
  13. I'm amazed that this thread is already five pages long trying to over-analyse a cool-sounding figure of speech. It's like saying something tastes like summer. What does summer taste like? Fruit and warmth and balmy nights, with a hint of coconut. What does molten gold taste like? Probably warm, and smooth, and rich. Five goddam pages.
  14. "The coming of the new year" doesn't mean new year's day or the first week of January. It just means after the new year. I'd say it could be any time up until February (although that probably doesn't fit in with the rest of the timeline) but it shouldn't be taken to literally mean the first day of the year.
  15. We don't know what happened in between. We don't know whether they were corresponding, and had planned it all along; or if it was a spur of the moment thing when Rhaegar happened upon her, or if he set out to kidnap her from the start. Until George tells us what happened (or not), then we don't know and can't limit the options to only those that fit our pet theories.
  16. Cersie named the children, obviously. Robert also had Edric Storm, though I can't recall if it's stated he was named after Ned. Everyone keeps saying Edric Dayne was named after Ned (although there's nothing in the books that says so).
  17. I guess it's fortunate then that I never said any such thing:
  18. And yet George did allude to him when he made the remark about the events leading up to the current weak political situation as: So whether or not the prophecy was the major factor, GRRM has confirmed that Rhaegar was "love-struck" which led to the "brutal civil war". And note the order he lists them - he can't be referring to Prince Duncan the Small because the "wildly incompetent and megalomaniac king" is obviously Aerys.
  19. There has been a lot of discussion about it but really, it's not difficult to tell the difference between a 3-month old and a 12-month old. Cat would know that the boys weren't the same age, and if Jon is 6-12 months older than Robb, and conceived before her wedding to Ned, then why did she say that Ned had fathered a bastard in the first year of their marriage?
  20. Ned and Lady weren't "fugitives", not that it has any bearing on the rest of your post. Just not sure why you would call them that.
  21. If the precedent was followed, Rhaegar would have been disinherited as soon as Aerys' madness began to take over. Just because it happened once, doesn't mean it will happen every subsequent time. There might have been other reasons they didn't want Aerion's line to inherit, e.g. he was a total douche, but madness was the main reason. Whereas Aerys was quite popular before he went mad.
  22. ^The first two are great but you lost me with the last two. I'm not a fan of A+J=T and I don't think the show is hinting at it. Now I'm going to have to go back and watch season 1 again.
  23. Sansa is already united with House Lannister via her marriage to Tyrion, but I agree that's not much of a parallel to Elizabeth of York, and I honestly hope nothing further ever comes of their marriage other than respect and possibly some kind of peace that was partly a result of their cooperation. No sex though (please!). I don't think we can match every character with their historical WOTR counterpart to predict the outcome of ASOIAF. If that was the case, Edward IV (Robert) married Margaret Beaufort (Cersei), unless you consider Elizabeth Woodville as Cersei. Henry VI's (Aerys) heir Edward of Lancaster isn't Rhaegar (Viserys maybe?) and Dany isn't Aerys' half-niece by the son of his mother's second husband. And in this scenario, who is Jon Snow? Aegon VI is Perkin Warbeck (if he's fake) but Jon doesn't really fit anywhere. And neither does Richard III for that matter. I tried reading a thread about the comparisons but it was too much waffle. If there's a concise explanation out there I'd love to read it.
  24. OK, I was thinking more of the books. In the show the bastard not of his blood died in the season finale and the "Baratheon" dynasty is over. Which is even more reason for Dany to try and re-assert her claim. Why does House Lannister have a better claim than her (or any at all)? This would be the time historically when a pretender mounts his or her claim, so Dany's doing exactly what any other conqueror would do - swooping in (literally) to take over when the land is in turmoil and the crown at its weakest.
  25. @Newstar I love your optimism, and you make excellent points that are hard to refute. I hope you're right, because I love Jon and Dany both and would be happy for them to survive and go on to prosper in some way. I can't explain why I believe Dany will die, because there's nothing specifically in the text. For me it was MMD's "Then he will return, and not before" curse, which to me was like a siren blaring "all these things need to happen before Dany dies and is reunited with Drogo". Death in childbirth seemed the most obvious, and it made such an impression on me at the time that it's been hard to shake despite four subsequent books. I imagine it's coloured my perspective of Dany's story since AGoT, "knowing" that she probably won't ever see the house with the red door again, which is all she ever wanted. So if I'm wrong, I'd better go and read the books again with a happier endgame in mind. BRB. And FWIW, Sansa is Elizabeth of York.