Paid Debt Lannister

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  1. Ok now this episode I finally liked. It kind of put things on the tracks they should be IMO: Jon gathering forces to beat the WWs, nice interactions between a lot of characters. Cersei finally admiting they are losing the war. Daenerys finally being sympathetic. Littlefinger back to scheming. truly liked it!
  2. He has been retconned. I doubt we will even hear from him again
  3. While I do dislike the show, I have to agree that Martin is to be blamed also. Like, I always defend the writers and book versions, but really guys, the first season of GoT came out the same year aDwD was released. So considering que won't release tWoW in another year (he won't), the entire show will have hapenned while George could not write a single book I am really afraid we will never get to finish the series. Maybe he has just given up on it. I'm not sure he still enjoys writing about it (hell, we will know how it ends soon enough)
  4. Mad Queen has already begun and her name is Cersei. Blew up a portion of the city she rules, killing a bunch of innocent nobles and commonfolk, while also destroying the heart of spirituality in the continent and the fucking Pope, and killed the Queen who fed the poor. Please stop painting Dany as the bad guy. Cersei is the antagonist here. She is already full on Mad Queen mode. Daenerys could have destroyed the entire continent but didn't, because she sees herself as different (which is obviously not working, as half the audience thinks she is as bad as or worse than Mad Queen Cersei)
  5. Cersei doesn't need no spies. She is the biggest military genius in Westeros' history. Should she fight the NK, she would easily win. It is known
  6. Lol I'm with you in that
  7. The fact that a lot of show only fans think the Lannisters are the good guys is a huge sign that the show is doing a bad job with character development. I even read a review recently that finished by saying that Cersei is the true protagonist behing the series, how she overcame her abusive wedding and oppressive family, and now has to prevent power hungry Daenerys from burning everything. Like I said, I love book Lannisters but I like them for the villains they are - I'm talking about Cersei and Tywin of course. But how can people say that Jaime is a good guy when he is basically helping his mass murderer sister, who provoked their son's suicide and never cared for it (guys this is very extreme, and the show never cared for it) to do all the shit she is doing? And by the way, how stupid were Robb, Stannis, Renly, the Blackfish and the Tyrells to ever oppose the Lannisters? After 9 seasons of fighting all of these people, they are STILL the most powerful army in Westeros. It makes all of their enemies look really stupid to ever think they could beat them. Not even all the dothraki hordes + Unsullieds + 3 dragons and half the continent in open rebellion can stop them. It makes the wars from the first seasons look really pointless, like how could the North ever win this? Oh and does Cersei have a factory that creates soldiers out of mud? Or is Qyburn ressurecting them all?? The Lannister army should be gone by now. I mean absolutely non-existant. They fought the North, Stannis, the Tyrells and the dothraki so far. There is no way their numbers could be of any threat to anyone (yet they are because apparently protagonist Cersei will win this shit)
  8. I'm saying what I see from my friends' opinions, and also, from comments I read on show only sections of forums and youtube videos. I'd go as far as to say that the show only fanbase is currently divided between Teams Daenerys and Cersei (when any sane person would expect Team Daenerys to have the bigger support from the fandom, right? WRONG)
  9. I know this is supposed to have no repercution, but I'll talk one tiny bit about the show only audience that I know (friends basically). Oh and it is kind of a rant as well. There are people rooting for the Lannisters, yes. Quite a lot of my friends fully hope that she gets captured / killed by Cersei. Some people were even calling BS that Jaime could not get to Dany, calling it plot armour or whatever. I'm not defending the show in any way with this. If anything it just makes it clear how huge the gap between book and show really is. Book readers usually analyse the story and try to connect all the dots, while tv show fans sometimes just want a 1h weekly entertainment. I'm not judging, just stating it as it's my impression. Many people didn't even know Olenna had killed Joffrey. Nobody questions how House Lannister still has an army (they shouldn't have). And so on
  10. Doesn't matter. Cersei will buy the Golden Company with the plot device gold she just got and her forces will be superior to Daenerys'. It is known.
  11. Guys Jaime is not dying, for sure. Lannister plor armour floats in water
  12. In fact, I do believe Cersei will outlive the Night King and be the bigger bad in the end, alongside the Golden Company, one thousans ballistas and whatever other Deus Ex Machina she gets. I will hate to see this final battle if I am indeed right. I just want her mad queen arc from the books ffs. Leave the badassness for Daenerys and Aegon
  13. Yes on the Stannis hate. I'll never swallow that. Cannot believe we have lost him on season 5. And Lannister plot armor... damn. I am already predicting Cersei hiring the Golden Company, who will be revealed as the greatest army in the world and will crush the dothraki+unsullied+northerns+wighs and white walkers all combined
  14. Guys the dothraki would win this regardless. Daenerys as a good leader minimized the casualities, that's all. The dothraki have been set up as the ultimate army in this show since season one. The only army that can and will destroy the dothrakis is the Golden Company (this is NOT a spoiler, it is simply narrative interpretation: Cersei said this episode she will hire the Golden Company, therefore they will be the big bad next season, therefore they will be the most powerful army and probably will impale the Unsullied, Dothraki and Northerns all together)
  15. You know what, at this point all there is to root for is that they elect Cersei as the ultimate commander against the WW. Then maybe humanity stands a chance. And then she locks Daenerys and Jon in a cell and we can get some torture porn. Show ends with she blowing everyone in KL and Tyrion becomes king