Thror Baratheon

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  1. For some reason, I tend to believe the idea would have been first floated by Davos. With Jon catching on fairly quickly and adding to it. And Dany adding the final touches (ie, Drogon).
  2. I understood the same as the bolded above. Bran would warg into birds, especially crows/ravens. Not dragons. If Bran does warg a dragon, he wouldn't need a saddle. He would be that dragon.
  3. I agree that Tyrion is not a seasoned battlefield commander. But I believe that he would and does do well with logistics and supplies and the like. What did Olenna call him? An overworked bookkeeper? Just the type to keep an army supplied and fed. As I mentioned elsewhere, lack of battlefield experience or ability doesn't appear to have anything to do with being a dragon rider. Dany herself is not a seasoned, veteran military commander, but she is a dragon rider.
  4. hmm...You don't have this : Jamie and Cersei are Tywin's. Tyrion is not. Tyrion may be a Targ; may be Aerys' son.
  5. And there is no indication that they did not. I'm curious -- why do you think Rhaegar would not? Honestly, I don't understand why such things could never happen in a place like Westeros. That piece of logic escapes me. The possibility that they could certainly exists, no?
  6. Love it! Aragorn it is!
  7. Jon's only Targ feature to my recollection (of the books) is his purple eyes. Otherwise, he does seem to resemble his mother and the Starks. I doubt this. The less who know, the better. I take 'Jon' as the Westerosi form of a Valyrian name such as 'Aegon'. Or something Ned had to extemporize on the fly, and came up with a similar sounding name. Or Ned could even have just picked some older Stark name. There have been Jon Starks in the past who did some famous/remembered things. As far as a document ... I doubt this as well. For similar reasons. A Maester would probably have to had written it. And it would be a quite damaging piece of evidence to leave lying around unsecured and unprotected.
  8. This assumes that the child's name wasnt decided upon before the birth. I start with a different set of assumptions, including that Lyanna 1) did fall in love with Rhaegar; and 2) Lyanna bought into the PTWP prophecy And I see no reason to exclude the name Aegon. None at all. Referenece my comment above : 'Aegon Lyannasson' is a different name than 'Aegon' or 'Aegon Eliasson', if it comes down to it. As far as Rhaegar's eldest son ... at Jon's birth, Rhaegar had no (known) living son. The Mountain had already killed Rhaegar's children to Elia
  9. Actually, didn't I read somewhere that 'Aegon' is a Celtic name? 'Fire Lord' or 'Lord of Fire'? If latinized ... it would sould sort of like 'Eye-gon' or 'Eye-jon' no? (depending on how the 'j' is pronounced). 'Eye-kon' ? 'Eye-chon'? Hmmm... if we follow the rule 'first vowel does the walking, the second the talking', then the name would be 'Ee-gon','Ee-jon','Ee-kon', or 'Ee-chon'.
  10. By this point in the Show, Jorah has 1. paid for his transgressions re. selling people to slavers; 2. is absolutely loyal to Dany (if not the 'office' of Over-King/Queen); and 3. has earned a place in the Queensguard/Kingsguard. The Kings/Queens Guard doen't concern itself with the moral character of its members, anyway. Esp. lately. Merryn Trant? Oh my. The Kettleblacks? mmm. Jamie (before he began/begins his Arc of Redemption)? he killed his King and attempted kill a child (Bran). The old Hound (before his own Redemption)? He did kill children. Frankengregor? eeek. Not to minimize what Jorah did in any way, but at the end of the day, the the world/environment that Westeros is set in, Jorah's offense would be forgivable and/or able to be overlooked. At least for a position in the Guard. All that being said, there have been Kingsguard members with apparent impeccable character. Such as Barristan Selmy, Arthur Dayne, and Duncan the Tall, among others.
  11. From what I gather... the Valonqar (in the books) could very well be Littlefinger. The 'little brother' of your hand is your ... little finger. He gets the poison for Geoffrey/Jeoffrey. He may even do the same for Myrcella. Tommen... hmm... that one can't be laid at LF's feet. Not in the show. In the books, both Tommen and Myrcella are still alive, no? The show may have someone else in mind. Or nobody. The show hasn't mentioned the Little Brother Prophecy, afaik.
  12. Heh ... true dat. I honestly don't think that Jon's real name matters. Just like being a bastard vs. not doesn't matter.
  13. Yep. in Dany's vision. The visions did not appear to be literal, accurate history. This is where we disagree, and interpret the vision differently. I do not think the same. Oh... very true. There is no hard evidence to my knowledge that he did, though. The Prince prophecy has nothing to do with the three heads. It's about the return of Azor Ahai/Eldric Stormchaser and the one person who would unify humankind in the Great War. The last bolded statement/phrase.... can you point me to the Targaryen lore re. this? I don't know that it would be family lore. Aegon happened to have 3 dragons for the Conquest. The Targ Sigil remembers this w/ the 3 headed dragon symbol. Even it this was family lore (which I'll admit to doubting), we would disagree on whether Rhaegar tied it into the Prince prophecy and naming his children. Yep.. His children by Elia were Rhaenys and Aegon. Mmmm... I don't see how Aegon the Conquerors wives names would figure into the 3-heads vision and naming. And, as I mentioned, I don't think that he even knew/thought about that. Once the son was named Aegon, either her or Elia just 'honored' the memory of the Conqueror. Maybe or maybe not. She could have accepted them after being with Rheagar. She could not have. Don't know, really. She could have honored Rhaegar by giving their son the name of Rhaegars (believed to be) dead eldest son. I've known people to do similar -- name later children after an earlier but deceased child. Yep. It does in both Dany and Jon. Maybe in 'Aegon'. That Aegon could be fake; could be real. If Tyrion is Aerys son (I personally doubt it, but it's been postulated) would he also continue the Line?
  14. This could be. Just like the Tree with the 3-Eyed Raven was a target. Interesting thought/theory. What about the stronghold/defenses that Bran the Builder helped build? Would they be targets, or no? Maybe, at best, point to seize and destroy. Or just to avoid, if possible? From what we saw in the show, there is no 'may' about it. The WW were 1st created by the CotF. Maybe by a sub-group of the CotF, but definitely by CotF. Maybe it was on the Isle, but the show hints strongly that it was in the North, maybe at the Tree where the 3-Eyed Raven ended up. Did the CotF still control the Isle when the Pact was signed? Were the WW created before the CotF tried (and failed) to submerge the Neck? That attempt would indicate that they were North of the Neck at that time.
  15. Yup. Better still, but not likely to happen, would be to capture a WW also.