Harry the Heir

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  1. Dragon sighting at Winterfell?!?

    The big problems with the Winterfell dragon theory has always been threefold: 1) Bran doesn't remember seeing a dragon, and never once thinks back on that strange dragon-like vision, which suggests that this "winged serpent" didn't register as anything noteworthy. 2) There's no reason to associate dragons with Winterfell. No Valyrian magic was used in its construction, and theories about Bran the Builder's power over dragons have been purely speculative. 3) There's no evidence, in three subsequent books since the dragon supposedly awoke, that a dragon is living in the north. Nobody's seen it, and nobody's seen strange occurrences that could be associated with a dragon living in the north. What makes (3) particularly damning is that in A Dance With Dragons we spend a lot of time with people who were actually at the sacking of Winterfell. Ramsay and his goons were there. Theon was there. Wex was hanging on to a heart tree most of the night. You'd think that Wex would tell Manderly if he saw a dragon waking from Winterfell, when he told Manderly so much else. Dragons have been to the north before. (That's why Queenscrown received its name, for one.) And dragons will no doubt be involved in the war against the Others in upcoming books. There's no reason to think that this means that there was a dragon under Winterfell.
  2. [TWoW Spoilers] Barristan

    Sure. But the Valyrians did it for a very long time. Presumably they wouldn't have fostered dragonriding if cities were always been destroyed by accident.
  3. [TWoW Spoilers] Barristan

    Fires will certainly break out, I'm sure. But enough to destroy the city? That's a little hard for me to imagine. Again, the dragons are already free, and they haven't come close to burning down the city yet. Why would they be a bigger danger once they've been placed under human control and sent outside of the city?
  4. [TWoW Spoilers] Barristan

    That's an assertion, not an argument. Yes, dragonfire is an imprecise weapon, but Victarion's enemies are outside the city of Meereen, not within it. Surely if anything Victarion could direct the dragons to attack the organized forces beyond the walls; if he can't do that, then he doesn't have control over the dragons in any real sense. (The big problem, perhaps, would be if Barristan's forces didn't retreat in time, but that's very different.) Regarding your earlier post, the fact that Victarion doesn't care much about Meereen in the first place is a good reason why he wouldn't care enough to destroy it, especially when it could potentially alienate 'his queen'. And once Victarion has chased off the Yunkish forces, he's going to need a base of operations to seek out Daenerys, so he would have no reason to burn Meereen at that time. And then once he finds Daenerys, his business is concluded and he might as well GTFO. At that point he would have no reason to burn Meereen, which is unlikely to pose a threat to his rule in Westeros and may well be controlled by allies. At no point would it be in Victarion's interests to burn down the city. Dumb compared to Euron? Sure. But people exaggerate his lack of intelligence. He's been leading men for a long time. If he was as stupid as some people think, he wouldn't still be in charge of the Iron Fleet. Balon would have replaced him a long time ago.
  5. [TWoW Spoilers] Barristan

    "Going to be ugly" is not the same thing as "will burn a major city to the ground."
  6. [TWoW Spoilers] Barristan

    I think that's silly. Victarion can tell the difference between burning a rival army and burning the city that he's supposedly fighting for. He's not the most clever person in the series, but he's not some drooling moron.
  7. [TWoW Spoilers] Barristan

    Wait... if the dragonhorn isn't a 'remote control' for the dragons, in what sense does it control dragons?
  8. [TWoW Spoilers] Barristan

    Why would the dragons burn down Meereen? Left to themselves they don't seem interested in doing so--they want to snack on passing Meereenese, perhaps, but they don't have an interest in destroying the city as such. (It's made of brick, too, so it's not as flammable as all that either.) And Victarion or Euron would have no reason to want Meereen destroyed, because they wouldn't want to alienate Daenerys, and because they don't ultimately give a shit about Meereen either way. That sounds like a contrivance to fix a perceived problem: that Meereen is boring, and Dany in Meereen is boring, so might as well burn the place down. But that doesn't make it a plausible direction for the story.
  9. [TWoW Spoilers] Barristan

    Under whose command, though? Victarion is certainly under the impression that he's figured out the horn, but he's got Moqorro as his only help there and Moqorro's behavior has to be informed by his ominous kraken vision from mid-ADWD. If he's wrong, then he's going to summon the dragons under the command of the man who claimed the horn, i.e., Euron. Which could be interesting.
  10. [TWoW Spoilers] Barristan

    You know, it occurs to me that Quentyn's coterie would know a lot about what happened in Westeros up until the end of ASOS or so, so it's a little strange that Barristan hasn't gotten information from them. (Daenerys didn't seem much interested either, but she was a little checked out in those days.) Then again, he does have more pressing matters, so perhaps he intends to return to that subject later.
  11. [TWoW Spoilers] Barristan

    I don't think that's so clear. Barristan doesn't know where the Second Sons are. He assumes that they must have been distracted by the ironborn, but he sees the ironborn fighting the Yunkish. Tyrion and Brown Ben Plumm were aware of the ironborn's arrival before the battle started--we know that from the Tyrion chapter--so presumably they wouldn't have been caught off guard. (Nor could I see them attacking the ironborn under the assumption that they must be the enemy.) I imagine that they would keep their distance from the ironborn until they know what's up with this new element. If I had to guess, I would assume that Tyrion's 'misery' comes from being upstaged by Victarion. He might still win himself over to Ser Barristan by changing sides, but everybody's going to attribute the victory to Victarion's sudden arrival, not Tyrion's cunning. (Which is always the way with Tyrion, it occurs to me.)
  12. What Varys Doesn't Say in the Epilogue...

    I don't think that would have made a difference. Harry Strickland and Jon Connington are acting on Varys' behalf, and it certainly seems as if they got the idea that Aegon and Daenerys need to get married from Illyrio. The trick is that Varys and Illyrio were constantly changing their plans in response to events. BTW, can we both maybe cool things down a little bit? This debate is getting awfully heated considering that we're talking about made up people.
  13. What Varys Doesn't Say in the Epilogue...

    I don't know. If the dragon eggs were gone before Varys got there (and it seems to me that they probably were, for reasons that I outlined above), then I don't see why Varys and Illyrio would be better suited than anybody else with means to track down dragon's eggs.
  14. What Varys Doesn't Say in the Epilogue...

    I suppose I imagined the quote from Harry Strickland that you quoted above? I suppose I also imagined Jon Connington saying to Haldon Halfmaester at Griffin's Roost that Aegon must be free to marry Daenerys? Limited third person. As in, third person narration that is constrained by the perceptions of the main character, and doesn't include knowledge that the main character doesn't have. Ummm... that wasn't me. That was somebody else's argument.
  15. What Varys Doesn't Say in the Epilogue...

    The cloth dragon _is_ a mummer's dragon (Jorah makes it clear), so I think Quaithe and the Undying are referring to the same individual. And GRRM is "obvious" by the standards of people who have read the books many times and have pored over every clue, but that's not "obvious" by normal reader standards.