Bael's Bastard

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  1. The World Book tells us that Aerys tried to hatch dragon eggs after Duskendale. "In the wake of Duskendale, the king also began to display signs of an ever-increasing obsession with dragonfire, similar to that which had haunted several of his forebears. Lord Darklyn would never have dared defy him if he had been a dragonrider, Aerys reasoned. His attempts to bring forth dragons from eggs found in the depths of Dragonstone (some so old that they had turned to stone) yielded naught, however." The idea that Aegon V intentionally tried to kill his family members, including his unborn great grandson, to hatch dragon eggs is without basis.
  2. How has the High Sparrow "established full control over Tommen"? Other than the High Sparrow coming to an agreement with Cersei which includes giving Tommen his blessing, I can't recall one single encounter of note between the High Sparrow and Tommen, let alone any suggestion that the HS has "established full control over Tommen."
  3. I would assume Cersei, Margaery, and Daenerys. Kevan expect Daenerys to eventually come west, and I doubt he is far if at all ahead of Littlefinger on that.
  4. I don't see any hint that Varys and Serala have anything to do with each other.
  5. TWOIAF suggests that Varys was not brought on as spymaster by Aerys until after Duskendale, which began in 277 and lasted half a year, and the death of Steffon Baratheon, which occurred no earlier than 278 and no later than 279.
  6. Robert's Targaryen ancestry is the excuse we are given by Ned for him to have been chosen between the rebel leaders of Jon Arryn, Robert Baratheon, and Eddard Stark. But if, as the OP asks, Robert had died before becoming king, what reason would there have been for Jon and Ned to go outside the rebel leadership to choose Stannis? If Robert had died after they had chosen him and sworn oaths to him, sure, but before? I don't see it. Not when Jon and Ned were the two most important leaders in the rebellion left. Robert's Targaryen ancestry was convenient icing on the cake. But in terms of succession, his descent from Aegon V's daughter Rhaelle could never justify taking the throne from the rightful male line Targaryens. Robert became the face of the rebellion through feats like being the first to gain the walls of Gulltown and killing Marq Grafton, defeating three different loyalist armies in one day at Summerhall, and killing six men including Myles Mooton and almost killing Jon Connington at the Battle of the Bells.
  7. That's not true. In The Hedge Knight, Rhaegel is described: "mad, meek, and sickly" and "gentle." In The Sword Sword, Rhaegel is described: "as meek as he is mad." In The World of Ice and Fire, Rhaegel is described: "a sweet boy touched by madness." Maegor is repeatedly described as cruel, but I can't recall any suggestion that he was mad. Aerys II just happened to be both cruel and mad.
  8. I don't get the impression he was mad in the sense of crazy. He doesn't seem crazy to me, but cruel and malicious. Jon calls him Aerion the monstrous. Olenna says Aerion was a monster. Daeron says Aerion is a monster. Egg and Dunk both believe Aerion intentionally aimed low to kill Ser Humfrey's horse. Raymun Fossoway says Aerion is a bad piece of work, vain and cruel, and has no doubt he intentionally aimed to kill Ser Humfrey's horse. Aerion cracked Tanselle's finger, and shoved her with the toe of his boot as she cradled her maimed hand. Egg says Aerion used to come into his room at night and put his knife between his legs, and threaten to cut off his genitals. TWOIAF describes him as cruel and capricious, and a fright.
  9. It sounds like you haven't actually read the books, as we have a number of different sources that attest to his cruel nature.
  10. I guess to be fair, Aerion was in his cups when he drank the wildfire. I don't know that we can say he was mad based on that alone, as we don't know the extents of his intoxication, or what effect dreams or other things were having on him at the time. He certainly seems to have been a very cruel person, but I also get the impression he might have been a skilled warrior.
  11. Over a hundred pages of presentation of evidence from the books and discussion, but please, tell us more of these anecdotal stories that are completely irrelevant to this meticulously written fictional story in which the parentage of Jon Snow is one of the central mysteries of the first book and series as a whole.
  12. This is a completely baseless and illogical assessment. Ned being willing to go to war against the Lannisters, whom he pretty much hates and blames for ruining the Robert he knew, is not the same as Ned being willing go to war with Robert, whom he loves as a brother. Ned looks at the Lannisters as a cancer that has destroyed his beloved friend Robert, and who came in at the last moment of their rebellion and tainted the whole thing by murdering the Targaryen king and babies. They did nothing all war until it was clear the rebels would win. Then they entered the rebel side by murdering the Targaryen children, something which almost ended Robert's and Ned's friendship for good. For that the Lannisters received a royal marriage. A marriage which made Robert miserable, while they increased their power and schemed to put their incest born bastards with no relation to Robert on his throne. He presumes they murdered Jon Arryn for learning this secret. He presumes they tried to murder his son Bran for learning something of this secret. Revealing Jon's identity means putting the life of his beloved sister's son at risk in any number of ways, both at the hands of his beloved friend and those he hates, risking the possibility of a conflict with his beloved friend Robert whom he had just helped destroy a dynasty with to put him on a throne, and risking the possibility of putting the lives of his own wife and children at risk. He had every reason not to tell anyone, including Jon. Jon himself could one day grow to feel he is entitled to the throne. Even if he never did, there would always be those who would want him dead or feel they could win favor by assassinating him. Targaryen loyalists and/or enemies of Robert could attempt to use him and his claim, as was intended to use Aemon against Aegon before he added Night's Watch vows to his Maester vows to prevent that. There is a huge difference between the dangers of joining the Night's Watch, which until lately only had to deal with wildlings, and the dangers of revealing a male line Targaryen claimant that happens to be his nephew. This is a society in which his trueborn sons were trained for the possibility of going to war against other trained warriors. Sending his well trained nephew to the Wall to fight wildlings that have crap for weapons is not some major risk compared to what he would have done had he remained at Winterfell under his bastard guise. Outing his true identity would have been far more dangerous than the bastard guise, whether he went to the Wall or remained at Winterfell. Fifteen years after the war, we see how seriously Robert takes what would have been a female line claimant supported by Dothraki who have never crossed a sea. Ned would have every reason to think Robert would take seriously an actual male line Targaryen claimant with the potential to rally actual Westerosi houses, especially since this male line Targaryen claimant would be the son of Rhaegar, whom Robert hates passionately, with Lyanna. And Jon taking the black after having his identity revealed would not have kept him safe, just made him a sitting duck. We see that Tywin and Cersei have no problem sending people to the Wall to do their bidding, including to attempt to assassinate a bastard Jon. In fact, it is highly likely that Cersei's plot to murder Jon and Jon's stabbing have a good deal of overlap if they are not one and the same. You haven't presented a single shred of support for the idea that RLJ isn't true, on the contrary, you have just demonstrated that you are the one that is guilty of what you accuse others here of.
  13. But I could get on board with AeGriff being the guy under the stallion banner. He is trying to conquer Westeros with Bittersteel's Golden Company, in a scheme possibly cooked up by a descendant of Bittersteel, and himself not inconceivably descended from Bittersteel.
  14. We don't know whether Robert's crushing blow occured while they were mounted. For Ned's part, we are explicitly told that he arrived on the scene when Rhaegar was already laying dead. So his description is a not necessarily full account of the combat between Robert and Rhagar by someone who did not necessarily witness the full combat. And the app confirms that Rhaegar spoke Lyanna's name as he died. You don't have to believe it, but others need not be sensitive to your denial of its accuracy.
  15. It would be one thing if people were actually discussing things that are stated, implied, or can be shown to be in any way hinted at in the books, but threads like these essentially just take the names of characters from the books and come up with their own stories that have absolutely nothing to do with the characters or books. Hence, why threads like this are just poor crackpots and fan fiction in the vein of Fifty Shades of Grey.