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  1. It would have happened not that long after Dragonstone was captured. Although Cressen states in 299 AC that it has been "some twelve years" years since coming to Dragonstone with Stannis, GRRM has stated that Stannis received Dragonstone before Joffrey had been born (and the wording suggests, imo, that Cersei wasn't pregnant yet, either), which would place Stannis becoming the Lord of Dragonstone, and thus the seat of Storm's End being granted to Renly, in 284/285 AC. Renly, born in 277 AC would have been some seven or eight years old at the time, but that does not prevent him from becoming a lord (we've seen more child-lords, like Edric Dayne and Robert Arryn). It simply means that he likely had a regent to help him rule his lands until he turned sixteen.
  2. Brandon Stark had bid her wait as well. "I shall not be long, my lady," he had vowed. "We will be wed on my return." Yet when the day came at last, it was his brother Eddard who stood beside her in the sept. The way I see it, "the day" that came at last refers only to "the day she was wed", not a specific date that had been agreed upon for her wedding to Brandon.
  3. The original website has been offline since February. It might be (partially) restored, but that's not yet certain (as far as I understood). Google does not show any further text besides the translated statement found in the SSM. I see no reason why there would be something left out of the translation, though.
  4. In addition to RumHam's answer, we also know that when Dany was born in mid 284 AC (~9 months after the war ended), it already was summer. But when spring started and how long it lasted is atm unknown.
  5. We do not know the exact location, but from and AMA on reddit we do know that it is located somewhere near King's Landing.
  6. I have to disagree. Sam is planning to pretend that the child is his son, but as Sam is going to train at the Citadel and next return to the Wall, he will not be involved at all in the boy's upbringing. But Gilly, Craster's daughter, is going to be. In addition to that, neither Dalla and Val nor Mance have any relations to Craster. "It's strange," he said to Sam. "Craster had no love for Mance, nor Mance for Craster, but now Craster's daughter is feeding Mance's son." That Craster's daughter (Gilly) is feeding Mance's son would not be a strange thing if the child's mother had been Craster's daughter to start with, right? What Sam means, is that the child inherited Mance's bravery, and through Gilly's manner of raising him will get Craster's bravery (as Craster passed that on to Gilly). Gilly would keep going even if that happened. The girl was very brave, not like him. So whether through blood relations, or adoptive relations, Sam's claim that the child is his son will not lead to the child "getting" any of Sam's "cravenness".
  7. I interpret this to mean that the boy is Craster's grandson in the sense that his adopted mother (Gilly) is Craster's daughter, making the child Craster's grandchild in a way, although they are not related by blood. According to the appendices, Mace has no brothers. So it likely is a mistake.
  8. So then, the High Septon from the time of the Conquest (who died in 11 AC) is included in the count of six High Septons during Aegon's reign? Or were there six additional ones after the High Septon who died in 11 AC? Because you previously reported this: I'm not sure about this. Who knows how Aegon would have acted if he had had any daughters. The Faith objected to a betrothal between Maegor and Rhaena, so clearly they would have objected to a betrothal between Aenys or Maegor and one of their sisters. If Aegon truly tried his best to keep the Faith on his side, he would have listened to those objections, just as he did when Visenya suggested the Maegor/Rhaena match. Alyssa seems to have been the closest cousin Aenys and Maegor had, so Aegon might have arranged the match without even suggesting a marriage between his heir and his daughter. And if he did entertain the idea of betrothing Aenys to his sister, the High Septon might have proposed Ceryse for Aenys, instead of Maegor a few years later. And if Aegon had decided not to marry Aenys to his sister, despite the fact that he had one, Aenys himself might have never arranged the Rhaena/Aegon match.
  9. Lord Varys, you gave a couple of interesting new pieces of information here that were absent from your notes of The Sons of the Dragon as read at Loncon. I'm curious, do you by any chance recall any other details?
  10. Nvm
  11. Nine new articles updated and added to the list: Margaery Tyrell Jorah Mormont Maegor I Targaryen Battle of the Blackwater House Velaryon Others Robert I Baratheon Conquest of Dorne Dragonstone Bringing the new total to 44.
  12. Thanks!
  13. I've changed the 51 royal war galleys / 9 war galleys from the lords to 60 war galleys ships, with a footnote stating that at least 9 of them belong to the lords of the narrow sea (and specifying them). But since the text in ACOK literally states "sailed ships", and the SSM discusses the ships in the Lannister fleet, which aren't present at the Blackwater, I've left that part unchanged.
  14. If you can post exactly what it should say, I'll update the page
  15. Linking Syrio to Daenerys' stay in Braavos is a theory; As Syrio had been the First Sword for 9 years, and no longer is the FS in 298 AC, it is possible (if he had traveled to King's Landing shortly after he ended his office as FS, and was subsequently employed by Eddard) that Syrio's employment for the FS began in 289 AC. (298 AC - 9 years = 289 AC). We know that the Sealord serves for life, but we don't know whether a new First Sword is chosen when a new Sealord is chosen, nor does Syrio specify whether the FS who had served before him had served the same Sealord, or the previous one. So these numbers show us that it might be possible that Syrio was the FS from 289 AC to 298 AC, and that he began his employment in 289 AC because the previous Sealord had died. But not only is this quite speculative, it also tells us nothing about the Targaryens in Braavos and the moment the pact was signed. From the app, we know that Dany was five years old when Darry fell ill, and quickly "wasted away". That means that Darry likely died in 289 AC (the year Daenerys turned 5), or otherwise in early 290 AC. This limits the signing of the pact between mid-284 AC (Daenerys' birth) and 290 AC. Doran's actions tells us more, however. Arianne's time in the Water Gardens overlapped with the presence of the daughter of the Archon of Tyrosh. She was supposed to go to Tyrosh in the girls place, to secretly meet with Viserys. Thus, the pact was already signed. “That green-haired girl was the Archon’s daughter. I was to have sent you to Tyrosh in her place. You would have served the Archon as a cupbearer and met with your betrothed in secret, but your mother threatened to harm herself if I stole another of her children, and I... I could not do that to her.” The children in the Water Gardens are between the ages of five and ten, and so Arianne would have spend her time at the Water Gardens between 281 AC (the year she turned 5, as she was born in 276 AC) and 287 AC (until the moment she turned eleven). Thus, the pact cannot have been signed any later than 287 AC. That Arianne was supposed to serve as a cupbearer whilst in Tyrosh, is another hint. A search for cupbearers turns up the following ages: 6/7 (Viserys II Targaryen), 8 (Rhaenyra Targaryen), 9 (Elmar Frey), "no more than ten" (Samwell Tarly); 10 (Tywin Lannister; Arya Stark; Aegon III Targaryen), 12 (Daeron "the Daring" Targaryen), 12/13 (Obella Sand). In addition, we have heard of Rhaelle Targaryen (b. 229-233) who became a cupbearer in 239 AC (10 at the oldest, 6 at the youngest). Based on this, it seems that cupbearers are usually not much older than ~10. Daeron the Daring seems to have been a bit old, but he served as a squire as well, and the age of 12 for a squire is very fitting. Aditionally, the text for Rhaenyra states "At eight, like many another highborn girl, the princess was placed into service as a cupbearer …", possibly indicating that Daeron and Obella are likely to be an exception, with their higher age. So we've narrowed the range to mid-284 AC to 287 AC. But even if Daeron's and Obella's ages are not an exception, we can still determine the time-range a bit more specific. The Archon's daughter spend time at the Water Gardens. Her time at the Water Gardens overlapped with Nymeria Sand's, who was born in either 274 AC or 275 AC. Assuming Nymeria had indeed been between the age of 5 and 10 when she spend her time at the Water Gardens, that would place her in the Water Gardens between 279/280 AC and 285/286 AC (until she turned eleven). Which implies that the pact was signed between mid-284 AC and 286 AC. And of course, this also fits with Quentyn's age, as Quentyn (born in 281 AC), already was at Yronwood when Arianne was supposed to go to Tyrosh. He had been send to Yronwood an unknown amount of time before, at an age described as “young”, “too young”, and “a tender age”, by Arianne, Mellario, and Arys Oakheart respectively. I can imagine that every age is “too young” for a mother, especially since Norvosi usually don't foster their children, and “young” can mean a lot of things. But it is Arys' opinion which is of most interest. Seven or eight seems to be a regular age to make a boy a page elsewhere (although of course, here too are exceptions to be found, like Robert Arryn, who was supposed to become a page at the age of six, though we also know that the circumstances were not ordinary here). Arys, who most likely had been a page somewhere himself, thinks of Quentyn's age at the time as "tender", suggesting that Quentyn had been younger than children usually are when they are sent away to serve as a page. Born in 281 AC, Quentyn would have been 3 to 5 years old in the range we established above (284-286 AC), and based on that, I would guess that Quentyn had not been at Yronwood for long when Arianne was supposed to go to Tyrosh. (That would mean that Doran send Quentyn his letter concerning inheritance etc. some 4 years after he arrived at Yronwood, as Arianne was 14 years old when she found the letter. Given that Quentyn was so young when he left home, it seems entirely possible (and I'd think even likely) that Doran did not inform Quentyn of the pact when he originally send his son off, as it concerned treason, and Quentyn was being send to a House whose relationship with House Martell was, at the time, still rather troublesome.)