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  1. A place for small questions that you feel don't need a thread of their own... Useful Links: Trying to find a quote, but don't have ebooks? Try A Search of Ice and Fire. Looking for that one So Spake Martin (SSM)? Try this SSM search engine For an overview of GRRM's ASOIAF-related Not a Blog entries, look at The Complete Notablog ASOIAF Resource For a quick overview of all that we know about The Winds of Winter, look at The Complete Winds of Winter Resource A list of all Small Questions threads of the past: Don't feel like reading through all those previous threads to find the answer to your question? Try this new feature: Most Frequently asked Small Questions On The Winds of Winter: When will "The Winds of Winter" be published? What's the latest news? Nobody knows. The best bet is to follow GRRM's blog. GRRM himself has expressed in December, 2014: Look, I've said before, and I will say again, I don't play games with news about the books. I know how many people are waiting, how long they have been waiting, how anxious they are. I am still working on WINDS. When it's done, I will announce it here [on GRRM's site]. There won't be any clues to decipher, any codes or hidden meanings, the announcement will be straightforward and to the point. I won't time it to coincide with Xmas or Valentine's Day or Lincoln's Birthday, the book will not rise from the dead with Jesus on Easter Sunday. When it is done, I will say that's it is done, on whatever day I happen to finish.I don't know how I can make it any clearer. On January 2nd, 2016, GRRM stated the following on his blog: THE WINDS OF WINTER is not finished. Believe me, it gave me no pleasure to type those words. You're disappointed, and you're not alone. My editors and publishers are disappointed, HBO is disappointed, my agents and foreign publishers and translators are disappointed... but no one could possibly be more disappointed than me. For months now I have wanted nothing so much as to be able to say, "I have completed and delivered THE WINDS OF WINTER" on or before the last day of 2015. But the book's not done. Nor is it likely to be finished tomorrow, or next week. Yes, there's a lot written. Hundreds of pages. Dozens of chapters. (Those 'no pages done' reports were insane, the usual garbage internet journalism that I have learned to despise). But there's also a lot still left to write. I am months away still... and that's if the writing goes well. (Sometimes it does. Sometimes it doesn't.) Chapters still to write, of course... but also rewriting. I always do a lot of rewriting, sometimes just polishing, sometimes pretty major restructures. The blog entry further details the writing process of 2015, and states that it is almost certain that the book won't be released before the sixth season of GOT airs, mid-April. What's the material that has already been published or revealed from The Winds of Winter? Spoiler tagged for obvious reasons On the tales of Dunk & Egg, and links to the main series: How many Dunk & Egg stories have been published? Where are they published in? Three Dunk and Egg stories are published at the moment. For now, they are 1. The Hedge Knight A short story to be found either in "Legends, edited by Robert Silverberg" or in "Dreamsongs II by George R.R. Martin". There is also a rendition as a graphic novel by the same name: "The Hedge Knight". 2. The Sworn Sword A short story to be found either in "Legends II - Dragon, Sword and King, edited by Robert Silverberg" or in the original hard- and softcover editions of "Legends II" from 2003 & 2004. There is also a rendition as a graphic novel by the same name: "The Sworn Sword". 3. The Mystery Knight A short story to be found either in "Warriors, edited by George R.R. Martin and Gardner Dozois" or in the paperback "Warriors 1, edited by George R.R. Martin and Gardner Dozois". No graphic novel... yet. Two more Dunk & Egg stories yet to be written have already been described. They are known as "The She-wolves of Winterfell" and "The Village Hero". Both of these are working titles, though, not final titles. Four additional titles have been mentioned by Martin: "The Sellsword", "The Champion", "The Kingsguard", and "The Lord Commander". Will the Dunk & Egg tales be published in one book? The first three tales of Dunk and Egg will be published in one book, titled "A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms", to be released in english on 6-10-2015. In some other languages, however, it has already been published. "A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms" will contain pages filled with artwork, which the other versions don't have. Was Dunk ever knighted by Ser Arlan? In spoiler tags: Are there any descendants of Dunk alive in the series today? Yes. GRRM has expressed that we'd meet one of Dunk's descendants. Brienne of Tarth finds the shield Dunk owns in The Hedge Knight. Hodor is often heavily suspected to be a descendant of Dunk's due to his enormous size, and the fact that people believe the young girl and the "knight as tall as Hodor" in the vision Bran sees in A Dance with Dragons are Old Nan (in her youth) and Dunk, and that the event is to take place during The She-Wolves of Winterfell. Small Paul (from the Night's Watch) has also been suggested to be a descendant of Dunks, due to his size and the mention of "thick as a castle wall", which is also used to describe Dunk. On the main series: When was Robert Baratheon declared King? Around the time of the Battle of the Trident. Why were Ned and Robert at the Eyrie when mad king Aerys II sent to Jon Arryn for their heads? It is true Ned and Robert were past their squiring and fostering age, when they visited Jon Arryn together at the Eyrie at that certain time. There is clarification on this both in TWoIaF and an older SSM telling that they liked to spend some of their time there together. What is the right of the first night? The right of the first night, better known as droit du seigneur (which only looks French, although it is English usage, the French use different terminology) or jus primae noctis is a medieval custom that has been abolished in Westeros (by Jaeherys I & Septon Barth) as in the real world (apart from a few small islands in the English channel). It allows the lord to be the first to consummate any marriage before the husband, thus potentially to sire numerous bastard children. In the real world, husbands would pay a fee to their lord for not making use of this right. What is "guest right" and why is it so important? The guest right is a sacred law of hospitality. When a guest, no matter the station of birth, eats the food and drinks the drink beneath the host's roof, the guest right is invoked. Bread and salt are the traditional provisions. When invoked, neither the guest is allowed to do harm to his host, nor is the host allowed to do harm to his guest for the length of the guest's stay. For either to do so would be to break a sacred covenant that is believed to invoke the wrath of the Gods both old and new. Both the teachings of the old gods and the Faith of the Seven hold to this. Even robber lords and wreckers are bound by the ancient laws of hospitality. Guest gifts can be given when the guests depart, ending the guest right. House Manderly practises this tradition in A Dance with Dragons. Breaking the guest right is seen as a terrible thing. The example stated in the books concern the Rat Cook. A cook in the Night's Watch who killed the kings son, and cooked the son in a pie he served to the king, leading to the unknowingly eating his own son. The gods punished the Rat Cook, by turning him into a giant rat who could only feed by eating its own young. The gods did not punish the cook for feeding the king his own son, but for killing a man beneath his own roof. Does the Wall block warging? It appears so. Jon Snow isn't capable of connecting with Ghost anymore, when they have the Wall in between them, nor can Jon, warged in Ghost, feel Summer when Summer is north of the Wall, and Jon and Ghost south. Whether this is the same for each warg/skinchanger, or depends on the strength of the individual, is a matter of discussion. It does appear that Bran, warged into the weirwood net, can see south of the Wall, whilst being north of it. What's the kindness Jaime never did? Jaime is referring to Tysha, and how Tyrion believed that Jaime bought Tysha's services to make Tyrion into a man (making him lose his virginity). Jaime never paid Tysha, however, as Tysha wasn't a whore. In other words, a kindness that Jaime never did. In A Dance with Dragons, Septon Chayle is at the Wall. Wasn't he the septon at Winterfell? Didn't he die in A Clash of Kings? Indeed. This is an error., Septon Cellador is the Septon at Castle Black. Septon Chayle, as far as is known, is dead. If the gates in King's Landing were closed, how did Arya get to the harbor? You need to cross a gate... A well known issue. People have tried to find explanations for it, but most have not yet been satisfied. Here's the most recent given explanation. How come Cersei and Margaery need a Kingsguard Knight to defend them in their trials in A Dance with Dragons, while Gregor Clegane, not a Kingsguard Knight, was allowed to defend Cersei in Tyrion's trial in A Storm of Swords? Because in Tyrion's trial, it wasn't Cersei who stood accused.. Tyrion was accused, Cersei the accuser. Tyrion didn't necessarily need to use a Kingsguard knight in that trial because he isn't royalty. In Cersei's case in Dance (and in Margaery's case, should she opt for a trial by combat, should her first trial fail), Cersei is the Queen Regent, Margaery the Queen. They are royalty, and it is them who stand accued. They are not the accusers. Thus, they need a Kingsguard to defend them. If knights are custom of the followers of the Seven, why there are knights in the North (Old Gods) and in the Iron Islands (Drowned God)? There aren't many. So far we know of a single Ironborn knight. Knights from the North spring forth from a few sources: 1. White Harbor and the Manderlys The Manderys in White harbor brought the new gods and Southern customs along, so knighthood is more common there. 2. Houses near the Neck Houses who have business with the South may have a few knights, as customs mingle. 3. War returnees Some Northerners simply get knighted by Southern nobility during war time, it cannot be helped. Ser Jorah Mormont is an example. 4. Hedge Knights and Freeriders People living the life of a hedge knight or freeriders in service in the South might face the same treatment, when the do too many chivalrous deeds, although an example is missing here. Who can make a knight? Any knight can make a knight. As knighthood is a form of distinction, the higher in renown or social status the maker, the better for the image of the knight made. Kings can also knight people, but lords cannot (unless they have once been knighted themselves). So for example, King Robert Baratheon, knighted in his youth, can knight people (and has) because he is a knight himself, and because he is a king. King Baelor I, a king, but not a knight, could have knighted anyone he wanted to. Lord Eddard Stark, never knighted himself, can't knight anyone. Which Targaryens had deformed children? * King Maegor I Targaryen (multiple malformed children by multiple wives) * Daemon Targaryen (a malformed son by Lady Laena Velaryon) * Rhaenyra Targaryen (a malformed stillborn daughter, Visenya, by Prince Daemon, according to Mushroom) * Daenerys Targaryen (a malformed stillborn son, Rhaego, by Khal Drogo) How big do dragons grow? Dragons seem just to grow if they get enough food and space. How old are Dany's dragons as of the end of Dance? Born in early 299 AC, the dragons are currently around 1,5 years old. Who is Jon Snow's mother? Have a look into the first post of the current (fixed) R+L=J thread in the General ASoIaF forum. It links to collections of theories on Jon Snow's parentage. Who are the marcher lords? Marcher lords are powerful lords who guard region near border with Dorne, known as the Dornish Marches. They have large keeps and maintain large forces, to defend lands of the Reach and Stormlands in case of Dornish attack. Marcher lords: - in the Stormlands: House Selmy, House Dondarrion, House Swann, House Caron - in the Reach: House Tarly, possibly House Peake When Arya is serving at Harrenhal, she sees Roose Bolton cautionly turning the pages of a very ornate and fragile book, before throwing it to the fire. Do we know which book was that? No. Any other questions: Is The Ice Dragon part of the asoiaf universe? No, it is not. Continue
  2. The main difference between a regular trial by combat and a trial of seven is that the latter form uses 7 combatants on each side to honor the gods. As knighthood has its roots in the Faith, possibly the possession of knighthood is considered more necessary during a trial of seven that during a regular trial by battle.According to Prince Baelor "[...] I remind you that any knight accused of a crime has the right to demand trial by combat. But that doesn't mean that one has to be a knight to demand a trial by combat. Any knight accused has the right to demand a trial by battle, but we have seen women be allowed to demand such a trial as well, for example. The difference might also be rooted in who is the accuser, and who the accused. When Cersei (the Queen Dowager) accuses Tyrion (who is not royalty), she is allowed to use any champion she wants to use. But when Cersei herself stands accused, per customs she must needs be defended by a knight of the Kingsguard, as the Kingsguard are the champions of royalty who stand accused. A similar situation might have been applying with Duncan's trial. Which might mean that another possibility is that Duncan needed six other knights to fight beside him because he was facing royalty. What will I do if I have to ride against a prince? Will I even be allowed to challenge one so highborn? He did not know the answer.
  3. I've added a few more, bringing the new total to 55 Queen Rhaenys Targaryen Faith of the Seven Tyrosh House Tully Dragon Siege of Storm's End (299) Doran Martell House Manderly Visenya Targaryen
  4. Since August 2014, the wiki has been displaying the same 11 articles as featured articles, repeating them over and over. I think it would be an improvement to increase the number of featured articles, so the repetition is no longer so frequent. Also, I think that it would be an improvement to increase the type of articles that are featured, so we won't have, for example, three POVs in a row. Currently, we have 6 POVs, 1 non-POV, 3 wars, and 1 object as featured articles. To give the project a boost, I would like to propose a number of articles to be added to the "featured article"-list. I've created a thread for this project, so people can easily nominate or suggest articles, and discuss what improvements are necessary in order to make the article a featured article. I've specifically chosen to create a thread for this instead of continueing discussions on the template page, so forum-users who are not able to edit the wiki can voice their opinions as well. So to start, I would like to suggest a number or articles. First of all, the following four pages have previously been nominated but are not yet featured. I personally think that, in their current state, they are all well-written enough and with enough references to become featured articles. Stannis Baratheon (added) Davos Seaworth Melisandre (added) House Arryn (added) I further would like to suggest several pages myself, which I think are all currently written in such a way (neutral, well-referenced, etc.) that they would make good featured articles: Braavos Volantis (added) Pentos Century of Blood Doom of Valyria (currently displayed) Cersei Lannister Catelyn Stark Petyr Baelish Jon Connington (added) The section "Marriage" on the Customs page (added) The section "Inheritance" on the Customs page Targaryen campaign in Slaver's Bay First Blackfyre Rebellion Feel free to discuss whether you agree that these articles would make good featured articles, and please make suggestions for future featured articles!
  5. No
  6. Sort of. A Feast for Crows, Cersei III "Would that we could do the same to the rest of this foul castle," said Cersei. "After the war I mean to build a new palace beyond the river." She had dreamed of it the night before last, a magnificent white castle surrounded by woods and gardens, long leagues from the stinks and noise of King's Landing. "This city is a cesspit. For half a groat I would move the court to Lannisport and rule the realm from Casterly Rock." Although she is speaking about ruling by herself (as she intends for to rule the realm until Tommen is 16 years old at least). So it would be more of a new seat for her. But her dream has an interesting parallel to Aerys indeed: In 265 AC, offended by "the stink of King's Landing," he spoke of building a "white city" entirely of marble on the south bank of the Blackwater Rush.
  7. Thank you very much for the kind words! Much appreciated!
  8. Yeah. It's odd. It had happened a few days earlier as well. And on other pages, the same image displays just as it should.
  9. It didn't help. The error still occurs.
  10. A wiki-related error: About half of the times I try to place a new image (which has been uploaded long ago and is used on multiple pages without a problem) on a page, I get the error "Error creating thumbnail: Unable to save thumbnail to destination"
  11. IIRC, we're not told an exact number. Only that it's "a token force". No.
  12. That depends on the template used as infobox. Monarchs (e.g., Aegon II) have a different infoboxes than other characters (e.g., Rhaenyra and Daemon). I've tried adjusting the template for the Infobox monarch template, but for some reason, it doesn't show. Perhaps this is a good moment to look at the infobox templates all together, as the Infobox character and Infobox monarch are not entirely consistent (where layout and order of information found in both boxes are concerned). Perhaps we can create two new templates (or adjust the existing ones) where consistency is increased?
  13. Would that be different from the collection of sigil images available on the wiki when sorting per category? http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Category:Coat_of_arms_images
  14. Continuing the topic once started by PrivateMajor, which had been closed for length, and the follow-up thread, which has been archived, the purpose of this thread is to discuss any potential errors or changes to the excel-timeline: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aj_uNZmcJaTddG9BVU5tRnJJTE5KcE5JRkFha1ZfNUE#gid=8
  15. That would be much appreciated
  16. That's not a mistake Both chapters describe one of the seven days and nights of Tywin's funeral. During Jaime's chapter, we learn that it has not yet been seven days (which is why the two chapters are not placed further apart), but that the smell is becomming so bad that Jaime feels Cersei should call an end to it anyway. Hahaha, I've added slightly more info (though it still states "only cat" as well )
  17. @Ran, Regarding the wiki-pages for GOT Seasons 6 (because they have been a bit neglected last year) and 7, what exactly is allowed to be placed on those pages (and the pages for specific episodes), and what is not? It might be a good idea to establish that more clearly
  18. Oops! That's a silly mistake, of course. Will change it! That stems from the issue with Tyrion's travel-time in AGOT. Jon turns 15 while Tyrion is still at the Wall. But Tyrion has such long distances to travel after leaving the Wall (from the Wall to Winterfell, from Winterfell to the Inn at the Crossroads, from there to the Eyrie, to Tywin's army, wich whom he stays for a while, until he leaves for KL), that having Tyrion leave the Wall much later than he does now brings us in trouble with his travel-speed (which is already rather fast ). If you know a way to tweak it so the order is properly displayed, please don't hesitate to post it Because I agree, with Ned's story and Catelyn's believes, Jon's nameday is celebrated after Robb's, not before.
  19. It also kind of brings to mind Varys's statement to Tyrion in ACOK "The storms come and go, the waves crash overhead, the big fish eat the little fish, and I keep on paddling. Might I trouble you for a taste of the wine that Lord Slynt enjoyed so much?" Despite the wars and struggles for power between the nobles, Varys keeps "paddling". Perhaps "the old fish eat the young" is an indication that the old power (Targaryen dynasty/7 separate kingdoms) will replace the new power (Baratheon/Lannister dynasty)?
  20. As far as I know, in general the only information regarding the show found on wiki-pages are statements which actors portray the character in the show (stated in the introduction paragraph), and in which seasons the character has appeared (stated in the infobox). As well, images from the show (for example to depict a character) can be found on multiple pages. Further, information from the show is found on pages specifically discussing the seasons and episodes (so as long as you stay clear of those, it should be fine). I would also suggest staying clear of theory pages, as I know of at least one which makes one small mention of show-information. But on regular pages (for example Edmure Tully) no information discussing events from the show are mentioned.
  21. Mors was at Winterfell for more than one day, and thus the steak and kidney pie were one of the many meals made by Gage that he would have eaten. That it wasn't served (as far as we know) at the Harvest Feast doesn't mean it wasn't prepared by Gage at another time while Mors was there.
  22. Update: On October 23, the count resulted in a total of 557 characters in the project, for who a total of 531 calculations have been made for a year of birth, and 70 calculations for the years of death, making it 601 calculations in total! (end update) What originally began as an attempt to calculate the birth years for the main characters (or those that I found interesting), slowly but surely grew in to a rather bigger project. So in an attempt to make this part of the wiki more factual, I've been searching through the books and novella's in the past few months for quotes that give statements about the timing of the birth or death of a character, or placing of events. I was my idea to make a page that can be used as a reference on the other wikipages, since I sometimes wondered where certain years on the wiki-entries of characters came from, and by reading on the forum for the past year, I noticed that there were more people with the same problem. To take away those questions, I've written the pages that over the past few days appeared on the wiki. To take away any doubt anyone might have, I've written the pages with as many references to the books as is possible. This all to make the wiki a more complete image of the world of A Song of Ice and Fire. This made me end up with a list of +400 characters, whose year of birth can either (1) be determined precisely 2) be determined rather precisely, giving a timeframe of a few years, (3) not be determined that precisely, giving a timeframe of roughly 20 years, or (4) not be determined at all, giving only a minimum year or a maximum year, but not both. For a select amount of characters, even a year (timeframe) of death could be calculated. To my surprise, most of those years or timeframes were either placed on the wiki wrongly (with information of someone's age in aCoK, for example, whereas additional information that could be found in the later books was not used) or not placed on the wiki at all, which only served to fuel my enthusiasm. For the years of birth and death, I've created 4 new pages on the wiki. Originally, I had hoped to fit it all on one page, but the page started having problems after a certain size was passed. I also noticed I had written much more than expected when I first started. To avoid any editing problems in the future, I've thus split it all in 4 pages, with a usefull navigation template that brings you to the page (or letter) of your choosing with only one click of a button For the events, I've started another page, with currently a lot of room to spare (but which also isn't completely finished). The idea is to use these pages to determine years which aren't specifically stated anywhere in the text of the novels or novellas. Should, for instance, a character's birth year, year of death, or the year when an event occured ever be mentioned, the entry could be removed on the calculation pages. English is not my first language, so there might be grammar errors, spelling errors, or simply typos to be found in the text. Should you read the pages and find any, don't hesitate to change them I know wiki-pages have talk-pages, but I figured a thread would be usefull for a deeper discussion, when that should be necessary. The calculations can be found on the following pages: For the birth and death years, Page 1 (A-D), 2 (E-J), 3 (K-Q) and 4 (R-W) For the events
  23. There's also this thread. A lot is listed in the OP, but some more (that aren't found in the OP) can be found elsewhere throughout the thread.
  24. @Ran, I might have found a solution to the text-align display on the mobile view of the wiki. The code that I think should be added to the css on MediaWiki:Mobile.css is body { text-align: left } If I'm correct, than this should cause all text on the wiki to align to the left by default (and only not do so when specified in the template/text of choice). Now, the wiki in browser-view already aligns text to the left by default, but the mobile view aligns all text in the center, decreasing readability. Since wiki's are often viewed on mobile, maybe we can give this addition to the mobile css a try? I admit that coding is not my area of expertise, but a test on http://www.cssdesk.com/ was rather promising. If there's a way to test the effect of adding a css coding to the mobile site without having it take effect for every visitor, that might be best, but otherwise, I suppose, it should be rather easy to see whether or not the coding works (and if it doesn't work, it won't be difficult to remove it again).
  25. Hmm.. I don't think we have enough information for it yet, nor has GRRM revealed a name for the battle. And considering the approved notes do not mention any battle, the statement that is currently given on the War of the Five Kings page ("Meanwhile, the Ironborn threat expands when King Euron Greyjoy continues his campaign in the Reach, while his brother Victarion has sailed to Slaver's Bay on Euron’s behalf to seek out the exiled Queen Daenerys Targaryen and her dragons.") might be enough until TWOW is released? Additionally, do Euron's battles in the Reach still count as battles of the War of the Five Kings? It might not be possible to say yet, as TWOW will likely tell us whether the new battles and invasions are going to be recorded as part of the War of the Five Kings, or as part of a separate conflict.. For example, Aegon's landing in the stormlands and the capture of several strongholds are currently regarded as conflicts in the aftermath of the war of five kings (for lack of a name described as "phase 2" on the War of the Five Kings page, under the subheading "New Conflicts Arise". Related, the template {{War of the Five Kings}} currently depicts Aegon's actions in Westeros. However, these are also depicted in the template {{Targaryen Invasion}}. Perhaps these can be consolidated?