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  1. A place for small questions that you feel don't need a thread of their own... Useful Links: Trying to find a quote, but don't have ebooks? Try A Search of Ice and Fire. Looking for that one So Spake Martin (SSM)? Try this SSM search engine For an overview of GRRM's ASOIAF-related Not a Blog entries, look at The Complete Notablog ASOIAF Resource For a quick overview of all that we know about The Winds of Winter, look at The Complete Winds of Winter Resource A list of all Small Questions threads of the past: Don't feel like reading through all those previous threads to find the answer to your question? Try this new feature: Most Frequently asked Small Questions On The Winds of Winter: When will "The Winds of Winter" be published? What's the latest news? Nobody knows. The best bet is to follow GRRM's blog. GRRM himself has expressed in December, 2014: Look, I've said before, and I will say again, I don't play games with news about the books. I know how many people are waiting, how long they have been waiting, how anxious they are. I am still working on WINDS. When it's done, I will announce it here [on GRRM's site]. There won't be any clues to decipher, any codes or hidden meanings, the announcement will be straightforward and to the point. I won't time it to coincide with Xmas or Valentine's Day or Lincoln's Birthday, the book will not rise from the dead with Jesus on Easter Sunday. When it is done, I will say that's it is done, on whatever day I happen to finish.I don't know how I can make it any clearer. On January 2nd, 2016, GRRM stated the following on his blog: THE WINDS OF WINTER is not finished. Believe me, it gave me no pleasure to type those words. You're disappointed, and you're not alone. My editors and publishers are disappointed, HBO is disappointed, my agents and foreign publishers and translators are disappointed... but no one could possibly be more disappointed than me. For months now I have wanted nothing so much as to be able to say, "I have completed and delivered THE WINDS OF WINTER" on or before the last day of 2015. But the book's not done. Nor is it likely to be finished tomorrow, or next week. Yes, there's a lot written. Hundreds of pages. Dozens of chapters. (Those 'no pages done' reports were insane, the usual garbage internet journalism that I have learned to despise). But there's also a lot still left to write. I am months away still... and that's if the writing goes well. (Sometimes it does. Sometimes it doesn't.) Chapters still to write, of course... but also rewriting. I always do a lot of rewriting, sometimes just polishing, sometimes pretty major restructures. The blog entry further details the writing process of 2015, and states that it is almost certain that the book won't be released before the sixth season of GOT airs, mid-April. What's the material that has already been published or revealed from The Winds of Winter? Spoiler tagged for obvious reasons On the tales of Dunk & Egg, and links to the main series: How many Dunk & Egg stories have been published? Where are they published in? Three Dunk and Egg stories are published at the moment. For now, they are 1. The Hedge Knight A short story to be found either in "Legends, edited by Robert Silverberg" or in "Dreamsongs II by George R.R. Martin". There is also a rendition as a graphic novel by the same name: "The Hedge Knight". 2. The Sworn Sword A short story to be found either in "Legends II - Dragon, Sword and King, edited by Robert Silverberg" or in the original hard- and softcover editions of "Legends II" from 2003 & 2004. There is also a rendition as a graphic novel by the same name: "The Sworn Sword". 3. The Mystery Knight A short story to be found either in "Warriors, edited by George R.R. Martin and Gardner Dozois" or in the paperback "Warriors 1, edited by George R.R. Martin and Gardner Dozois". No graphic novel... yet. Two more Dunk & Egg stories yet to be written have already been described. They are known as "The She-wolves of Winterfell" and "The Village Hero". Both of these are working titles, though, not final titles. Four additional titles have been mentioned by Martin: "The Sellsword", "The Champion", "The Kingsguard", and "The Lord Commander". Will the Dunk & Egg tales be published in one book? The first three tales of Dunk and Egg will be published in one book, titled "A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms", to be released in english on 6-10-2015. In some other languages, however, it has already been published. "A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms" will contain pages filled with artwork, which the other versions don't have. Was Dunk ever knighted by Ser Arlan? In spoiler tags: Are there any descendants of Dunk alive in the series today? Yes. GRRM has expressed that we'd meet one of Dunk's descendants. Brienne of Tarth finds the shield Dunk owns in The Hedge Knight. Hodor is often heavily suspected to be a descendant of Dunk's due to his enormous size, and the fact that people believe the young girl and the "knight as tall as Hodor" in the vision Bran sees in A Dance with Dragons are Old Nan (in her youth) and Dunk, and that the event is to take place during The She-Wolves of Winterfell. Small Paul (from the Night's Watch) has also been suggested to be a descendant of Dunks, due to his size and the mention of "thick as a castle wall", which is also used to describe Dunk. On the main series: When was Robert Baratheon declared King? Around the time of the Battle of the Trident. Why were Ned and Robert at the Eyrie when mad king Aerys II sent to Jon Arryn for their heads? It is true Ned and Robert were past their squiring and fostering age, when they visited Jon Arryn together at the Eyrie at that certain time. There is clarification on this both in TWoIaF and an older SSM telling that they liked to spend some of their time there together. What is the right of the first night? The right of the first night, better known as droit du seigneur (which only looks French, although it is English usage, the French use different terminology) or jus primae noctis is a medieval custom that has been abolished in Westeros (by Jaeherys I & Septon Barth) as in the real world (apart from a few small islands in the English channel). It allows the lord to be the first to consummate any marriage before the husband, thus potentially to sire numerous bastard children. In the real world, husbands would pay a fee to their lord for not making use of this right. What is "guest right" and why is it so important? The guest right is a sacred law of hospitality. When a guest, no matter the station of birth, eats the food and drinks the drink beneath the host's roof, the guest right is invoked. Bread and salt are the traditional provisions. When invoked, neither the guest is allowed to do harm to his host, nor is the host allowed to do harm to his guest for the length of the guest's stay. For either to do so would be to break a sacred covenant that is believed to invoke the wrath of the Gods both old and new. Both the teachings of the old gods and the Faith of the Seven hold to this. Even robber lords and wreckers are bound by the ancient laws of hospitality. Guest gifts can be given when the guests depart, ending the guest right. House Manderly practises this tradition in A Dance with Dragons. Breaking the guest right is seen as a terrible thing. The example stated in the books concern the Rat Cook. A cook in the Night's Watch who killed the kings son, and cooked the son in a pie he served to the king, leading to the unknowingly eating his own son. The gods punished the Rat Cook, by turning him into a giant rat who could only feed by eating its own young. The gods did not punish the cook for feeding the king his own son, but for killing a man beneath his own roof. Does the Wall block warging? It appears so. Jon Snow isn't capable of connecting with Ghost anymore, when they have the Wall in between them, nor can Jon, warged in Ghost, feel Summer when Summer is north of the Wall, and Jon and Ghost south. Whether this is the same for each warg/skinchanger, or depends on the strength of the individual, is a matter of discussion. It does appear that Bran, warged into the weirwood net, can see south of the Wall, whilst being north of it. What's the kindness Jaime never did? Jaime is referring to Tysha, and how Tyrion believed that Jaime bought Tysha's services to make Tyrion into a man (making him lose his virginity). Jaime never paid Tysha, however, as Tysha wasn't a whore. In other words, a kindness that Jaime never did. In A Dance with Dragons, Septon Chayle is at the Wall. Wasn't he the septon at Winterfell? Didn't he die in A Clash of Kings? Indeed. This is an error., Septon Cellador is the Septon at Castle Black. Septon Chayle, as far as is known, is dead. If the gates in King's Landing were closed, how did Arya get to the harbor? You need to cross a gate... A well known issue. People have tried to find explanations for it, but most have not yet been satisfied. Here's the most recent given explanation. How come Cersei and Margaery need a Kingsguard Knight to defend them in their trials in A Dance with Dragons, while Gregor Clegane, not a Kingsguard Knight, was allowed to defend Cersei in Tyrion's trial in A Storm of Swords? Because in Tyrion's trial, it wasn't Cersei who stood accused.. Tyrion was accused, Cersei the accuser. Tyrion didn't necessarily need to use a Kingsguard knight in that trial because he isn't royalty. In Cersei's case in Dance (and in Margaery's case, should she opt for a trial by combat, should her first trial fail), Cersei is the Queen Regent, Margaery the Queen. They are royalty, and it is them who stand accued. They are not the accusers. Thus, they need a Kingsguard to defend them. If knights are custom of the followers of the Seven, why there are knights in the North (Old Gods) and in the Iron Islands (Drowned God)? There aren't many. So far we know of a single Ironborn knight. Knights from the North spring forth from a few sources: 1. White Harbor and the Manderlys The Manderys in White harbor brought the new gods and Southern customs along, so knighthood is more common there. 2. Houses near the Neck Houses who have business with the South may have a few knights, as customs mingle. 3. War returnees Some Northerners simply get knighted by Southern nobility during war time, it cannot be helped. Ser Jorah Mormont is an example. 4. Hedge Knights and Freeriders People living the life of a hedge knight or freeriders in service in the South might face the same treatment, when the do too many chivalrous deeds, although an example is missing here. Who can make a knight? Any knight can make a knight. As knighthood is a form of distinction, the higher in renown or social status the maker, the better for the image of the knight made. Kings can also knight people, but lords cannot (unless they have once been knighted themselves). So for example, King Robert Baratheon, knighted in his youth, can knight people (and has) because he is a knight himself, and because he is a king. King Baelor I, a king, but not a knight, could have knighted anyone he wanted to. Lord Eddard Stark, never knighted himself, can't knight anyone. Which Targaryens had deformed children? * King Maegor I Targaryen (multiple malformed children by multiple wives) * Daemon Targaryen (a malformed son by Lady Laena Velaryon) * Rhaenyra Targaryen (a malformed stillborn daughter, Visenya, by Prince Daemon, according to Mushroom) * Daenerys Targaryen (a malformed stillborn son, Rhaego, by Khal Drogo) How big do dragons grow? Dragons seem just to grow if they get enough food and space. How old are Dany's dragons as of the end of Dance? Born in early 299 AC, the dragons are currently around 1,5 years old. Who is Jon Snow's mother? Have a look into the first post of the current (fixed) R+L=J thread in the General ASoIaF forum. It links to collections of theories on Jon Snow's parentage. Who are the marcher lords? Marcher lords are powerful lords who guard region near border with Dorne, known as the Dornish Marches. They have large keeps and maintain large forces, to defend lands of the Reach and Stormlands in case of Dornish attack. Marcher lords: - in the Stormlands: House Selmy, House Dondarrion, House Swann, House Caron - in the Reach: House Tarly, possibly House Peake When Arya is serving at Harrenhal, she sees Roose Bolton cautionly turning the pages of a very ornate and fragile book, before throwing it to the fire. Do we know which book was that? No. Any other questions: Is The Ice Dragon part of the asoiaf universe? No, it is not. Continue
  2. As Jon never identifies with a personal sigil during the series, perhaps the sigil of House Stark might be better.
  3. That's the only source we have for it, as far as I know.
  4. I hope the log in issue will be fixed soon. Until then, I've added the SSM info to the Ashara Dayne page
  5. Nice!
  6. Hi. Thank you for the good observations! Regarding Val's departure (Jon 8), that seems to be an editing error on my part. I did include the chapter in my post explaining what was changed in the last big update, but apparently it got lost in copy-pasting it into the document. Good observation regarding Jaime's statement on "Arya"'s wedding. I'll try to incorporate it in the document the best I can. I'm not sure when I can take a look at it, so it might be a little while. Same for the white raven. Although I do not expect the white ravens to be mentioned in all storylines (as we've seen from the Arianne sample chapters in Winds), Melisandre's line from Jon's last chapter confirms that the raven at least has not arrived at the Wall yet. Will post here when I figured out how to fit it all together!
  7. Continuing the topic once started by PrivateMajor, which had been closed for length, and the follow-up thread, which has been archived, the purpose of this thread is to discuss any potential errors or changes to the excel-timeline: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aj_uNZmcJaTddG9BVU5tRnJJTE5KcE5JRkFha1ZfNUE#gid=8
  8. To be fair, Dany's three eggs aren't the only ones described to have "turned into stone" by time. His attempts to bring forth dragons from eggs found in the depths of Dragonstone (some so old that they had turned to stone) yielded naught, however. TWOIAF, The Targaryen Kings: Aerys II
  9. Haven't read anything about that yet. However, this errata page contains all those found thus far, with confirmed corrections (for as far as they are known).
  10. No further opinions on the use of "entertainment" or "pastimes" for the Customs subsection?
  11. From ADWD, it seems clear that the Old Mint has been closed for a long time. The huge oak-and-iron doors of the Old Mint had always been closed when Davos had been in Fishfoot Yard before, but today they stood open. The only reason the doors of the Old Mint are open when Davos arrives at White Harbor is the following: Davos stopped beneath the colonnade and traded a halfpenny for an apple. "Are people living in the Old Mint?" he asked the apple seller. "Them as have no other place to live. Smallfolk from up the White Knife, most o' them. Hornwood's people too. With that Bastard o' Bolton running loose, they all want to be inside the walls. I don't know what his lordship means to do with all o' them. Most turned up with no more'n the rags on their backs." No entries in the app for the Old Mint, nor any mention of such in the White Harbor entry, and no mention of mints in Petyr's entry either. But with the Old Mint's doors having been closed during all of Davos's previous visits to WH, I'd say that is has been closed for a while at least.
  12. Added to the errata!
  13. I've voiced my opinion on this on the talk page, but I'll state it here again so as to be as complete as possible. I find the differences between sellswords and assasins guilds rather big, and thus believe that they should not be merged. Either create a template for the assassin's guilds specifically, or do not create one at all, but I would vote for not adding them to the sellsword-template. Personally, I think that these three are too different to put together. So, the same as above. Either create three separate templates, or none at all. The template on the Faith Militant uprising battles started out with three entries (and has since grown to four, not that much bigger but still), so why would the limited size of the three categories you describe (magic, commerce, outlaw organizations) be any different? Additionally, I would remove the entry "Saan family" from the template. While the family has produced several outlaws that we know of, to say that the entire family should be seen as an "outlaw organization" is overstating it.
  14. In addition to the spreadsheet @Lost Melnibonean has linked, I'd like to add that in the story, a ship takes as much time as Martin needs it to (meaning it can travel unrealistically quickly, or extremely slow, if the story demands it). That said, we know from Jorah Mormont that it takes two weeks to sail from Lannisport to Bear Island. Looking at the Lands of Ice and Fire map of Westeros, Lannisport to Oldtown is roughly half the distance between Lannisport and Bear Island, so based on our given travel time I would guess about a week, give or take a few days.
  15. No problem! Will do some time today!
  16. It's difficult. Viserys had a coronation, according to the app. Daenerys was his official heir (holding the title "Princess of Dragonstone"), and derived her claim from Viserys. But neither actually sat the Iron Throne. In their infoboxes, it was agreed to list them as claimants, so I guess they should no longer be bolded either. I am even doubting whether they should be listed as "Viserys III" and "Daenerys I", respectively. Without having them rule the IT officially, and being only claimants, it might be best to list them as "Viserys" and "Daenerys", although a note indicating Viserys styled himself as "Viserys, the Third of His Name", and another stating that Daenerys rules as Queen of Meereen, might be a good addition What do you think?
  17. Bolding claimants might indeed be confusing, especially since it is not done consistently. I'd vote for either differentiating claimants in another way (perhaps writing their names in italic?) or simply not doing anything to point them out at all. For what it is worth, since not all claimants actually come from House Targaryen and thus are not shown in the family tree (i.e., Daemon's children and grandchildren, as it is a family tree for House Targaryen, not for House Blackfyre), it might be better not to specify them at all. Although Rhaenyra did sit on the Iron Throne for half a year (which might be shown using a note), she is not counted as a monarch in the histories of the Seven Kingdoms, as far as we know. Btw, Laenor and his mother Rhaenys were never claimants to the throne. They were claimants for the position of Prince (or Princess) of Dragonstone at the Great Council during Jaehaerys I's reign. And Prince Aegon (Rhaegar and Elia's son) is currently bolded as well, but as of the end of ADWD, he has not yet put forward his claim for the Iron Throne, so that should be changed as well.
  18. That had not been mentioned. That's something we might get to learn about while Samwell is there. Although we do not know exactly how long is minimally needed to complete one's chain, I suspect that Samwell will leave Oldtown long before his chain is complete.
  19. A child sent to study at the Citadel at the age of ten will definitely have the oppertunity to earn at least one link by the time they come of age (i.e., turn sixteen). But the pace at which students earn links depends entirely on the student. Acolyte Armen took a year to earn his first link, but Alleras had earned three links in the same time period. Maester Aemon, who was "nine or ten" when he was sent to the Citadel, had earned "half a dozen" links by 209 AC, indicating he had earned 6 links after having been at the Citadel for one or two years. On the other hand, the novice Pate has been studying at the Citadel for five years, and has yet to earn his first link. Adults might be faster in earning their links than young boys, due to the amount of knowledge they had prior to arriving at the Citadel, but that again depends on the people in question. Younger boys might be able to remember the archmaester's lessons much faster than an older man would, giving them the advantage. We do know of characters who have studied at the Citadel and earned links, but who left before completing their chain. Lord Lyonel Strong and Prince Oberyn Martell both earned six links before leaving the Citadel, and Gunthor Hightower has studied at the Citadel for a few years as well (though whether he earned links and how many is not stated).
  20. Would it be OK if I took a shot at editing the page? I feel there are still some issues, as well as that there are still often-used arguments that are still missing.
  21. The theory is about the identity of the Harpy. So the poisoned locusts should be removed from its introduction entirely, as “who provided the poisoned locusts” is a different theory. (The locusts-discussion is a larger one, and if you wish to present it on a theory-page, it should receive its own page, discussing 1) who the poisoner is, and 2) who the intended victim was). Subsequently, under Hizdahr subsection, the locusts should be removed, as they add no support no counter-evidence for him being the Harpy. Main issues with the introduction: · The introduction should at first discuss that it is uncertain whether or not there is a Harpy. It is Skahaz who suggests it, while Daenerys is skeptical.{{Ref|adwd|30}} I feel that the introduction should also mention that both the characters in the story, as well as the readers of A Song of Ice and Fire have speculated about the Harpy’s identity, providing he indeed exists, and that the most popular suggestions are discussed below. · The poisoned locusts are a different theory, and should be removed from the introduction. Main issues with the text: The counter-arguments under Hizdahr only argue why he cannot have been the one behind the poisoned locusts. There’s nothing there that argues why he cannot be the Harpy. The following point seems contradictory: Hizdahr has repeatedly argued that peace is in the best interest of the former slave-master familiesMeereen:{{fact}} if Daenerys goes to war with other external slaver powers such as Yunkai, the slave-master families in Meereen itself would still be slaughtered by Daenerys's freedmen before she could be defeated. How does this prove or imply that Hizdahr is not the Harpy? And the bolded is purely assumption (Daenerys marching towards an enemy on the field does not mean her freedmen will do whatever they like inside the city, and so, Daenerys marching does not necessarily mean that the freedmen will start killing). The section “The "Meereenese Blot" theory: Galazza Galare and Skahaz mo Kandaq” needs a new title (and quite a simple one, “Galazza Galare”, as the entire section basically only suggests her as the Harpy). While the theory as posted on The Meereenese Blot discusses the possible identity of the Harpy, there are others who have other arguments. The theory page should, imo, reflect the overall and general arguments used by the fandom, (or by the characters in the story). Only the section “the identity of the Harpy” can remain, although it requires some expansion (because there are actually arguments that have been made for Galazza other than “she is of old Meereenese blood”). In the explanation of the theory you can mention the Meereenese Blot article, albeit shortly. I’d vote for linking it at the bottom of the page at the very least, under a heading “see also”. Other important threads (for each of the suggestions made on the page, that is), can be linked there as well. As readers have also suggested Skahaz as the Harpy, he should receive his own section, with arguments in favor of the theory, and arguments against the theory. The sections on Xaro, Illyrio, and Varys have remained unchanged. My previous comments on these sections remain the same. Question regarding the options of Xaro, Illyrio and Varys: What are the argumentation of the people who presented the theories? And what are the counter arguments of others (not counting "I don't believe this" etc.) in those discussions? And although there are now a few references, I’m still missing a number. Also, the writing style still does not fit with wiki-style overall.
  22. @Kandrax, your opinion?
  23. Ok. I removed the section.
  24. Three threads discussing the results can be found on his profile page http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php?/profile/81322-bryndenbfish/&do=content&type=forums_topic&change_section=1