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  1. You merge the 'three heads of the dragon' and the 'prince that was promised' into one prophecy that reads: 'the three heads of the prince'. That's a good idea, I give you that. In fact it is so neat that I had to edit my post twice because I kept thinking about the subject! First I disagreed, then I agreed, now I don't know, haha. The conclusion I finally seem to settle on is that while I love your basic concept there is one thing that bugs me: if we make the prince into a trinity as well (as the three heads who already are the undisputable trinity right there) then I don't really see how the story is going to end logically. What I mean is that the three heads of the dragon = three aspects of the trinity have to have different roles to play or else a trinity is not needed in the first place. Like father, son and holy spirit are three roles. Or the seven deities of the faith of the seven. Each has their distinct name and role. And in our story we already have the trinity in the form of the 'three heads fo the dragon' so we do not really need a second name for the same thing. Rather we need distinct names for the distinct roles of that trinity. (Like father, mother, crone etc). Thus the 'prince that was promised' seems to serve a more logical function if used to name one of those three aspects, not all three. It also fits Jon especially well
  2. The grammar in the book is very specific: In ADWD, Jon X, Mel says to Jon: 'When the red star bleeds and the darkness gathers, Azor Ahai shall be born again amidst smoke and salt to wake dragons out of stone' (emboldening by me). Notice the plural form. So Aegon can not be 'the' (as in: one and one only) stone dragon. In conclusion I am with you insofar as it is theoretically possible that Aegon may be one (of several) dragons meant by prophecy. However when the OP states 'the' stone dragon and talks about waking 'the' stone dragon then no. That goes against the text. Multiple dragons are being spoken of, not one.
  3. A nice idea! However the grammar works against it: Yes, I think your starting point is correct and the Valyrian word for prince/princess seems to also mean dragon. Based on that 'the dragon has three heads' could mean 'the prince/princess has three heads.' Indeed most of us seem to think that indeed three humans and not three literal dragons are meant. Here comes the catch though: 'The dragon has three heads' and 'the prince that was promised' are two different sentences. The heads are in plural form, yes but everyone who mentions the prince speaks in singular form. They say 'prince', not 'princes'. Melisandre talks to Stannis of one prince that was promised, in Dany's HotU vision Rhaegar speaks of but one prince. Likewise maester Aemon talks to Sam about the prophecy being about a prince, (not several princes.) And Barristan tells Dany about the wood's witch prophecy that claims that the prince would come from the line of Aerys and Rhaella. Conclusion: while there may be three 'heads' only one of those is the promised prince.
  4. I see two possibilities: either Dany died in the fire and was literally reborn or she somehow magically survived the fire and was metaphorically reborn. My own preferrence is a literal death and rebirth. But which it really was we'll probably never know. And it does not matter either: the point is (I believe) she sacrificed herself (literally or metaphorically) and this sacrifice was an essential part of making the eggs hatch and/or bonding the hatchlings to her.
  5. I would choose Chezdhar zo Rhaezn and one of his brothers (the so-called 'Clanker-Lords') as my generals and their chained slave army as my troups. The chained slave soldiers make for a nice Troyan horse: Once they get slain and raised by the WW they severely hamper any sort of organized troup movement by the wight army. Imagine those long rows of chained ice-zombies ambling this way and that (and quite likely hopelessly entangling even their un-chained co-wights.)
  6. That is actually easy It can happen when you have a complicated story with many interconnected plotlines which is only mapped out in broad strokes but not in detail when you start to write. Since you only create the details when writing you may suddenly - even when you think you are nearly done - hit a wall and notice some of those details collide or don't add up. And as a result you end up having to rewrite big chunks of the book.
  7. This is a very cool idea! Congratulations! I'll offer some criticism anyway if I may: I am not sure the similarities you base the theory on are correct: Even if Rhaego's death actually did contribute to 'fertilizing' the dragon eggs (as I think we both believe) timewise both Rhaego's (and Drogo's) deaths happened well before the funeral pyre, not simultaneously. In contrast to that I always understood that Rhaegar was born during the Summerhall fire, not before or after. So there is a difference right there. Same goes for Mirri's involvement: Her shadowweaving happened well before the funeral pyre was even erected. (Unless Mirri's singing in the flames is counted as a spell. Which it might be I suppose but if so we have no clue hinting that way.) The one spell we really and definitely know she cast - and a powerful one at that - was when she supposedly tried to save Drogo - (and possibly killed Rhaego) well before the pyre scene, not simultaneously.) Also you don't mention Dany's walking into the pyre as an ingredient to the hatching. I suppose one could just ignore Dany's self-sacrifice as irrelevant. But really? Isn't it more likely that Dany's walking into the fire had something to do with the success of the dragon hatching also? Because otherwise: Why did she do it? Just because it looked cool? Even though it was completely meaningless? I don't buy that. But if Dany's walking into the fire had something to do with the hatching (as I believe) then we have another difference between her successful hatching of dragons and Aegon V's unsuccessful try at Summerhall (unless Aegon also tried to walk into the flames which we have not heard about but I guess is borderline possible.) All of this means (to me) that the similarities you see maybe aren't really similarities at all and thus the conclusion that Rhaegar may have been supposed to be sacrificed stands on shaky grounds. Also an alternative explanation for Summerhall exists: maybe the tragedy and fire catastrophy at Summerhall did not happen because Rhaegar was not sacrificed: maybe its the other way round and Rhaegar got successfully 'hatched' (contrary to being stillborn or dying early like most of Rhaella's later children) because of the accidental mass sacrifice at Summerhall during his birth.
  8. Exactly!
  9. There is a problem in your logic: Your premise is that MMD performed 'necromancy' on Khal Drogo. You base your conclusion on that premise and argue that necromancy can only be performed on the dead, not the living. However the book does not say that MMD performed necromancy. It speaks of blood magic. You (and probably some other readers) seem to equal necromancy and blood magic. But that is just an assumption, not a proven fact. GRRM is completely free in the design of the magic in his books and that he looked up necromancy in a dictionary, then transferred it 1-on-1 to his story and just renamed it is quite unlikely IMO. At the very least it is not a given. That means we have no idea if your premise that performing MMD's spell on the living was 'pointless'. Thus your argument falls apart. Aside from that your conclusion that MMD 'wanted to murder Drogo all along' is not supported by the text: Drogo had an injury which apparently got infected and led to blood poisoning: MMD first prescribes Drogo some sort of herbal poultice, not a blood magic spell. But Drogo does not apply this poultice according to her prescription and MMD only gets consulted again when Drogo - after not having used the poultice as prescribed - has fallen so sick that he (apparently) can not be saved anymore by conventional medicine. That he could not be saved anymore at this point might have been a lie by MMD of course (or the poultice might have been poisonous) but if it was then we have no text ev for it. Because Drogo's condition is described by GRRM and that description fits a sepsis pretty well. For all we know he died of an infection and was not murdered by MMD. You may still be right that MMD lied to Dany (or at least that is one possible way to interpret MMD's behaviour): Dany believed what she desperately wanted to believe (that the blood magic would completely heal Drogo) and MMD did not talk her out of that misconception. (Though MMD did warn Dany against trying the whole thing in the first place. But Dany did not want to hear anything about adverse side effects and MMD did not insist.)
  10. In my opinion her most efficient political ploy is her fight to abolish slavery. While at the same time causing enormous upheaval and bloodshed - it also provides her with a huge, h-u-g-e amount of loyal followers. And the ploy is even more effective (on her followers that is, if not on her enemies) because it is sincere. Because it actually is not a ploy at all. It is who she is and she can't help it. Someone who actually believes in something and does what she believes in to help people who have been hopeless and abused all their lives is very attractive to those people. Especially when she actually does change something. And this 'ploy' which is no ploy attracts huge masses to her not just in Meereen or even Slaver's Bay but all over Essos. Of course this power also is a 'sword without a hilt' as Melisandre would say in that a revolutionary crowd is very hard to grasp and keep control over. But power it is nontheless. And on a continental scale.
  11. I have an explanation for that: Suppose Jon really turns out to be the main male 'hero' of the story in the end. Then I find it likely GRRM may have found it too cringeworthy to explicitly top off this main-heroness with super-handsomeness too. (This does not mean GRRM does not imagine Jon as attractive. It does not mean he imagines him as unattractive either of course. It simply means describing Jon explicitly as handsome is out of the question.) The solution GRRM came up with - in my perception - is to quite purposefully leave this question open and up to each reader to imagine for themselves.
  12. Spoken like a real Sith Lord.
  13. My favourite Nissa Nissa candidate is Rhaella. Which incidentally makes Mad King Aerys II the last hero. That would be so lovely ironic. Our hero's first sword fails in water (Rhaegar in the floods of the trident). His second sword (Viserys) fails in the heart of a Lion (admittedly a weak point in the theory - but Drogo did have a nice lion pelt which which he gifted to Dany. Finally our hero plunged his 'sword' into his wife, Rhaella, and sacrificed her life to bring forth - Dany as Lightbringer. *** (EDIT: Some years ago I had refined the theory by adding a better 'lion' for the second failed try. That would be Joanna Lannister whose 'heart' (love) Aerys II used to temper his second sword in (which then would be Tyrion instead of Viserys). The theory gets bogged down by the Tyrion-Targ controversy then of course. Also we would have four swords instead of three (Rhaegar, Tyrion, Viserys, Dany) so that Viserys would have to be somehow explained away. For the sake of simplicity I skip Joanna and Tyrion here and go with Viserys as sword no. 2.)
  14. We have a 40 something woman (Rhaella) with long history of miscarriages and whose last successful birth was 8 years ago (Viserys) who suddenly - literally on the very last occasion she has sex successfully conceives and supposedly gives birth to a healthy daughter. For some reason GRRM has removed every supposed witness for the pregnancy and birth. We don't have a single one left except Viserys, who dies early in the story too. And we definitely know Rhaella was not visibly pregnant when she left KL. Ashara Dayne is supposed to have thrown herself off a tower yet a body was never found. She is said to have had a stillborn girl - yet we get told no name and no father. GRRM for some reason chooses to keep all this a mystery. Dany's memories and what Viserys has told her about her travels do not add up. Now it is of course possible that GRRM added these mysteries for no deeper reason, just as flavour for lack of a better word. And if you buy into the official party line about Dany you have every right to do so. You may very well be right. However this does not change the fact that GRRM has added these mysteries. And that readers have every right to speculate about them, try to make sense of them and talk about them on this forum.