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  1. 14 minutes ago, dbunting said:

    And again, stop putting words in someone else's mouth. I simply stated I don't compare the two.

    The funny part is you say this, and then immediately after say this

    So, all I am saying is that if you had never read the books, your views on the show may be different. I know plenty of people who have not read the books and they love the show. They aren't mad that Clegane bowl isn't happening, or LSH, or fAegon, or Jaime redemption arc is maybe going differently.

    You are stating that people should not compare the two. Do you need to state that if noone does compare them?

    Youre comment is simply unwarranted and you are baiting the comment.

    In my quote, I did not compare them.

  2. 6 minutes ago, Rhollo said:


    I stopped comparing books and show some while ago and honestly, it didn't do the show any favors either because most plotlines become even duller and more confusing whithout projecting the backstory from the books onto them.

    Agreed. With Book backstory you can kinda get an idea of what theyre TRYING to do.

    Right now, you cant even get that.

  3. 43 minutes ago, dbunting said:

    I went with a 6. I found plenty of things to like about this episode. I think it helps that I don't take book items and try to hold the show to them, separate entities.


    Can people stop peddling this tired line out?

    If you look in this thread you will find it hard to find someone actually comparing them to book details. Many here are criticizing the show plotlines as show plot lines. Separating them does not make them any better.

    Riverrun was still a utter waste of time. Arya was still 2 seasons of "Cool, now im going home" and Brienne just traveled halfway round the world to hear "Nope" and then got in a rowboat.

  4. 25 minutes ago, redtree said:

    I know right, from the last episode where she got stabbed, they showed the bloody knife and it looked pretty deep. It's impossible for 3+ inch deep stab wound in a girl her size not to at least prick an organ. The waif did multiple stabs yet she calmly walked after that, too illogical for me


    She even twisted the knife. The waif stabbed and twist.

    Arya at 10 years old is the most resilient Stark in history.

  5. Terrible episode. I struggle to give it a passing grade.

    The writing this episode is the culmination of 2 seasons of poorly cobbled together plot points.

    Arya - We have wasted two seasons of her in Braavos. The Waif T1000's her through the streets and all of a sudden, nah Im going back to Westeros. Episodes upon episodes of her fighting whilst blind and working up to becomming a Faceless Man. For what purpose? If the budget is so tight, did we really need all of this?

    Riverrun - Siege is introduced this season, we had a total of what two or three episodes on it with the Blackfish making his return to slink off and die off screen in the biggest let down of the season. I have numerous issues with Riverrun.

    Blackfish says Edmure is a marked man last episode, Jamie this episode states his son has been born. Ok, if his son has been born, there is an heir to Riverrun and an heir to the Twins. Why is Edmure still breathing? Theres no way Waldr would allow Jamie to threaten the child. Why on earth would Brienne travel, literally thousands of miles and then accept a simple "Nah" from Blackfish (ignoring the fact that she made it there that damn quick).

    Why would Brienne sneak out the backdoor? She was given free passage she can just wander out. Why is it fine for Brienne to send a Raven from Riverrun to Sansa but not a Raven from Sansa to Riverrun? WUT.

    Blackfish killed off screen. Was credited to budget issues. If the budget is this bad, WHY DID YOU INTRODUCE RIVERRUN?! There was nothing here that could not have advanced Jamie and Briennes plot that could not have been done elsewhere for far less money. Showwatchers have forgotten the Blackfish and Edmure, just write them off. Instead we got a two episode plot that just angered us.

    Before we leave Riverrun - The Hound, him pissing in the river is pretty much D&D at this point trying to be clever by injecting a stab at the book readers by pissing all over LSH. *clap clap* you think youre clever.

    Meereen. Useless dialogue between Grey Worm and Missandei. Oh look Dany is back just in time for the Seige of Meereen. THE SAVIOUR HAS RETURNED *vomit* Oh look at all those ships! As if Urine Greyjoy's 1000 ship fleet wasnt enough we have the Masters!

    Kings Landing - Trial By Combat now banned?! The Faith Militant - whos very role is to enforce the Sevens rule by military might doesnt want combat because its violent? WUT. In other news, Cleganebowl, hold the hype. Cersei must be convicted now, does Tommen really believe he is a Baratheon? Where does this go? It doesnt make sense because the High Septon has invested so much into Maergary and Tommen. Tommen will be chucked off the throne as soon as Cersei goes to trial. Unless the Throne then goes to the Faith *shrug*



  6. What a shitty episode.


    Butchered the Riverun storyline. The seige lasted 30 minutes when Jamie decides to catapult the heir? Color me skeptical but I dont think Walder Frey would really go for that. If the heir has been born, why wasnt Edmure killed already?

    Oh look Dany is back right in time. OH AND LOOK AT HOW MANY SHIPS ARE THERE?! What an amazing coincidence.

    Trial By Combat is now banned? So much for violence.

    Arya skips her entire book plot and just gets back on a fucking boat to Westeros after interning at the Faceless Men?


    Blackfish just dies? All the action off screen. Fantastic ep guys.



  7. Just on the Asha/Theon dialogue. You have to remember that the Ironborn are effectively Vikings. Within that culture, there was no room for weakness. If you werent able to fight you were a burden.

    Asha's scene with Theon makes perfect sense. If you are going to be a burden, just kill yourself and retain some scrap of dignity.


    Asha's sexuality. Look, I dont care. However, the cynic in me says its been done to pander to a certain loud minority of complainer.

    Which leads me to this


    22 hours ago, Future Null Infinity said:

    a question for book readers please, do you think that Yara or/and theon are taking Quentin's story? 


    Theyre going to be taking on Victarion's storyline. I am putting down a cold hard twenty bucks that D&D and planning a scissor scene between Dany and Asha.

  8. Remember Robert was afraid because the armies were splintered, there were essentially 5 different armies with 5 different leaders doing 5 different things and had become fat and lazy through peace. Not just because Dany had a Khalasar.


    Using Oberyn v Clegane is a poor example. No war is a 1 on 1 duel. The Dothraki will not have the time to probe for gaps in armor and Jorah totally neutralized the arahk in his duel with one of Drogos fighters. The Dothraki will need to rely on cavalry speed and their hit and run tactics which will simply not work against a proper formation of pikemen. Once theyre off their horses, the battle is lost for the Dothraki because it becomes a fight between an unorganised militia vs military prowess.

    Having the Unsullied at the front line and then using the Dothraki as flanking cavalry would be effective, however, 5000 unsullied is not going to be enough to hold the enemy.

  9. 5 hours ago, The Knight in Motley said:


    Dany's best bet is to make some kind of marriage alliance for ships.  I'm surprised no one has considered offering her ships to leave already. 

    Which is why the whole dialogue was so laughable.

    Holy shit, 1000 ships? You dont say? Well, good thing that, just last episode, Euron Greyjoy just ordered the commissioning of a new Iron Fleet, consisting of 1000 ships that doesn't have men to sail them and wants to arrange a marriage to Dany.

    Put a bow on it because its like Christmas.


    But I agree, why wouldnt the Masters, just give her 1000 ships in exchange for her pissing off and never returning?

  10. As has already been pointed out. From a storyline point of view, the Dornish alliance means nothing and hopefully we never see Dorne again, so there is no need to keep up the lie that the Mountain is dead. They never sent his head and the Sand Snakes only commented that if Oberyn even scratched him, he would be dying. So there is only an assumption on their behalf.

    From a logical point of view, it was simply to keep it simple for the show watchers. We all knew it was Gregor and his sheer size alone would have given it away. So, instead of another name, just keep the status quo. They never actually said Ser Robert Strong, so, the Mountain is just easier.

  11. Just did a rewatch.

    Dany is doing my head in. Same old recycled bullshit speech. I AM NO KHAL GIRLFRIENDS! I DONT NEED NO MAN! Yeah, we get it. You havent got a cock. Go join Varys for some flat parts jokes and get it over with.

    Her speech is very flat and just simply isnt exciting.

    "Who has 1000 ships?"



    If Euron magically gets his 1000 ships by Ep10 I am legit fucking done with this show.

  12. 54 minutes ago, Brandon Michael Farley said:

    Best scenario might be that Bran warged into Summer immediately after letting Hodor hold the door.  ... and directed Summer to scram!

    Alternatively, if Summer died and becomes a White, Bran can still warg into him and essentially spy on the Whites and/or lead them elsewhere - off Brans escape route. 

    We see Summer swamped with Skeletons, with very audible stabbing sounds and yelping immediately after Bran is on the sled and is still visibly warging Hodor. There is no best case scenario.

    Theres no way were going to see a Behind Enemy Lines plot going on. For one, it would be a shitshow to implement and come across on screen. But it would also be, simply, cheap as hell.

    Im also sure there would be a proviso for not Warging into the dead.

  13. Summer is goooone.

    Reddit seems to be jumping on this as well. But this is confirmation that Shaggy is dead to. Theyre culling CGI budget. Theyve never really explored the relationship witht he wolves and the Starks and Bran is the only one who is shown to be capable of Warging.

    In the show, they simply havent given them enough of a reason to live.

  14. 14 minutes ago, chandl34 said:

    I thought it was interesting Damphair did no CPR to bring back Euron.  So all the drown victims in these rituals have to come back on their own?

    I imagine its part of the ritual.

    "What is dead may never die."

    "But rises again, harder and stronger."

    So he dies in the sea and if he is worthy of the crown, he rises again, as king, harder and stronger. If he cant come back to life, perhaps the Drowned God has not given his blessing for his anointment.

  15. 8 hours ago, TexasDirewolf said:

    D&D confirmed that GRRM told them about the Hodor origins and etc. This is how it will happen in the books.

    Its not the first time D&D have said something along those lines and either between a line of coke or a case of beer theyve taken what George has said and gone into bizzaro land with it. So, grain of salt.

  16. The Kingsmoot was a bit of a joke.

    Euron in the show is either, not well written or not well acted. He is not charismatic, hes quite dull and boring. The ONLY reason he gets voted King is the Dragon Horn. In the show, its because he told a dick joke. Its a laughable scene.

    Kin and Kingslaying are the most serious crimes anyone can commit. Euron admitted to both of them. Makes sense that Aeron would then reward him with the Crown of Salt and Rock. This season, Kinslaying has been made a mockery of.

    The new King is voted on by the Longship Captains. In the closing part of this sequence. We see Asha taking off with a ton of ships and some men, apparently most of the Iron Fleet. If they had this many people to pilot this many ships. Surely she would have won the vote regardless?!

  17. Had a while to process my thoughts on the episode.

    Criticisms. Im sick of complaining about Littlefinger and the fact he apparently has his own personal aircraft. So lets move on to his scene.

    We recently started to feel that Sansa has been learning the game. In one piece of dialogue, she plays her hand to Littlefinger and undoes a lot of that work. For me, she came across as that silly little girl again who fails to realise the danger of turning down Littlefinger but also the merit in using the Knights of the Vale. Brienne, again shes portrayed as a one dimensional brute. If you dont answer Muh Sansa in a timely fashion ill kill you. Piss off Brienne.

    Plus side, shes heading to the Riverlands. Lets pray she meets up with a noose.


    Iron Islands.

    What possible reason did they have to vote for Euron? He had nothing but a dick joke. The ONLY reason they vote for him is the Dragon Horn. He doesnt even have that. He is uncharismatic, quite boring and when did Kin and Kingslayer become a passing hobby? Kin and Kingslaying has been shown as the worst crimes, the thing of curses. Yet this season we have three Kinslayings and a Kingslayer combo.

    The Kingsmoot vote is by the Captains of the Iron Islands. If that many people followed Asha, SHE WOULDVE WON THE FUCKING VOTE!



    Oh good, Arya is back to being hit by a stick. Her story goes forward one step, back 5 steps. Huzzuh. This story is nothing but a bore. If you want to keep her relevant every episode, atleast show her killing someone. Did we really need the cock shot?


    The Spider and the Dwarf Show.

    I like how were are having trade offs here. We have choices being made which have negative and positive outcomes. I dont think we had a cock joke here. So, win win.


    Vaes Dothrak.


    I liked this scene. Iain is a great actor. This scene had some real emotion. However, I can see something terrible a mile away. Weve just been introduced to Dany as Azor Ahai. Dany showed some real emotion for Jorah. Not love, but a deep admiration and a great bond. I have this sinking pit in my stomach that Jorah will ask her to end his life once the Greyscale gets too much. He will become Nissa Nissa and we have our Azor Ahai. If this happens I quit.


    Frozen Wastes


    Its quite clear to me that they are shedding CGI budget pretty hard. For everyone that used the size of Shaggydog's head as a conspiracy theory. Summer looked dreadfully small this episode. They clearly dont have much else planned for the Direwolves, so just kill them. This to me puts a nail in the coffin to everyone thinking Shaggydog is alive and well.


    Summer goes out in a blaze of glor....no wait, wasnt glory, more disappointment. Yes, a blaze of disappointment. Also, CotF suicide bomber, yeah that was lame. The skeleton CGI is also abysmal.

    Happy with the Hodor scene. Long time since ive cried in this show but this was a real tearjerker. Interested in whats going to happen to Bran now though. Current theory, We know that ShowThreeEyedRaven isnt Bloodraven, due to him being "~1000 years old". Bran has opened a time paradox. Bran is the ThreeEyedRaven jumping weirdwoods through time.



  18. So your arguments are "She can drown in water, so shes not a Mary Sue!".

    Look, I know your Khalessi fans are a bit special, but this is far fetched.

    "Perfect fictional character". Well yes, that does sound like our friend "Khalessi". Lets put this in perspective. The traits Dany exhibit in the show if shown by anyone else are treated in a different way. Lets use Fire as an example. Stannis can burn people for the greater good. Evil. Dany can burn people for the greater good. "Strong powerful woman".

    This show is built upon the dire consequences of ones actions. The Red Wedding, is a perfect example of this. For Dany, her poor choices are rewarded via Dragons, Armies, Advisors. I mean, at this point everything has fallen into her lap because shes a moron. At every chance, when she is met with adversity, she comes out of it looking like a million bucks and people applaud it.


    "low-rank person who saves the day through unrealistic abilities"

    Lets use this latest episode as the example shall we? Prisoner/Captive of the Khals, shes being treated like dirt, treatened with death/rape. Sounds low rank to me. If only my two henchmen, with one dagger. Could slip past 100,000 Dothraki, sneak up to the main temple. Dispatch the one guard. Board it up. Then sneak back to the bushes. That would be really damn convenient. Then because we dont have any CGI budget left for Drogon, man I wish this one time magical ability that was given to me via the blood magic of my dying child and the magic of Dragons hatching would return to me in this moment of need. Oh dear how ever will I survive this!

  19. 44 minutes ago, Ser Desmond Wine's Bane said:

    From the Article (EW?) where Clarke confirms no body double was used.

    Paraphrased "She has always been able to do it, but she had forgotten. Its really cool. She can just set fire to everything then just stand there. It solves a lot of problems".

    I thought you were having a bit of a laugh so i went and found the article. A little bit of me died after it.

    Next EW article is going to be with Aidan Gillen and hes going to say "He had a car, that was really fast. Its really cool. He can just drive around at 180mph everywhere. It solves a lot of problems."


  20. 1 hour ago, Jack Bauer 24 said:

    This was the definition of a woman showing agency and being a strong powerful woman. Loved it.

    Its also the very definition of a Mary Sue.

    Im fairly disappointed that no matter the odds, in a series that is based around choice and massive consequence, Dany can literally walk out of almost any situation unscathed.

    We can have strong empowering roles without the nonsense.