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  1. Exactly.
  2. Don't underestimate the fandom. D&D and GRRM might tell us Jon Snow is the child of Lyanna Stark and Rhaegar Targaryen. No matter how explicitly you spell it out, some people WILL NOT believe it. It doesn't fit their head canon, and it must all be a conspiracy. So there! :-D
  3. Thank you, Lollygag, for this insight. I quite agree. Arya is a tragic figure, a tragic character, even when she learns new things in the House of Black and White. I think the point is that Arya has to step away from her childish black-and-white morality, accept greyness and use her considerable skills for good, for life, not death. To realise revenge isn't a dish best served cold, it's best served not at all. There are, in the fandom, "Arya fans" who think she's a cool super ninja warrior princess, who can do no wrong and who will defeat the Others single-handedly because she's so super ninja warrior princess cool. Ugh. Like, does she have a personality? Is she someone as opposed to her cynical killing no-one? That's actually a huge cop out. "It wisnae me, no-one killed 'im." What would poor dead Ned think?!
  4. Hahaha! That'd be kind of fun. Imagine the decades of online debates on platforms we can't even imagine now. But yes, that'd be a very unpopular opinion. People, fans, would want confirmation of their theories. The only thing worse than proving them wrong is not proving anything either way. And the debate goes on...
  5. Like you said. Sadly, many men's health issues go unreported because of false male pride. Nipples on a breastplate are not useless. Macho Westerosi knights pretend otherwise. To their detriment. I'm glad you've raised the issue, maybe now knigjts won't be too scared to speak out on this important and sore point. There's nothing to be ashamed of if your nipples don't quite line up. It's perfectly normal.
  6. This, and your several next posts. There's too much time between books, so everything gets picked and prodded and analysed, and then picked and prodded and overanalysed, before they get picked and prodded and really over the top analysed. Another opinion that I've gathered isn't universally popular among the fandom: I really, really like Tyrion's chapters on the Rhoyne. Them slowly sailing down the river. We're introduced to all these seemingly bening charactets - except surly Griff, who sets Tyrion's mind working... And, aaah, Septa Lemore of the naked swimming. The way the river trip was described, it was lovely, langruous. I loved reading every minute of it. All the nature about them, the sand banks, even the king turtle. Only Griff could not enjoy any of it. It got seriously serious with the rewind (gods I luuuurve that bit) and the stone men. By then Tyrion had figured out who Young Griff was, or was supposed to be - the lad believed it all right. This perfect prince froze when what's what came to home, while Tyrion the dwarf, Yollo, the fool, saved his sorry princely arse. But yeah, I really love the Rhoyne chapters. Not many readers apparently do.
  7. Successful, then. Brienne broke, relented, watching poor little innocent Pod hanging and choking. We don't know what Brienne thought about Ser Hyle potentially dying. Ah, all right, she didn't want him to die, either. He was innocent of any crimes LSH laid at Brienne's door. He was a bit nasty to Brienne when they both were knights of the summer in Renly's camp. But they both have since seen much real horror and war, neither is the same they were. Ser Hyle is beginning to appreciate Brienne and her prowess, even defends her to Lord Randyll Tarly, and apparently gets sacked for his efforts. Ser Hyle wants to marry Brienne for her lands and title (Brienne is the heir to Tarth) but I think he actually sorta likes her, thinks she isn't too bad, after all. And Tarth is sweet. Poor Ser Hyle, he doesn't stand a chance. Forget teen crush Renly, there's a new man going. One who gives two shits about her claim or status, one who calls her "wench" and gives her a Valyrian steel sword, armour and a horse "as ugly as you" (Later we learn it's actually a very pretty horse.) He gives her a knightly, honourable quest. He believes in her, trusts her and her honour. And her fighting prowess. However amiable Ser Hyle is, and he isn't a bad guy, he's nothing compared to the guy who treats Brienne like a fellow knight. Down to the awkward chivalric love. (Who's the knight, who's the maid here? Jaime and Brienne are confused, they're both the knights but also both the maids. Or something.)
  8. We don't actually know Rholler or any other gods exist. Magic certainly exists, different people ascribe it to different gods. Citing Melisandre the Unreliable as proof of Rholler's existence is just funny. GRRM is an atheist, that is, does not believe in the existence of any god or gods. (I happen to agree.) However, religions are real, in this world and in martinverse. Religions are what people believe in, constructs to explain the universe, to make sense of the world and life in general. Religion can be a powerful weapon, as demonstrated by the High Sparrow. It doesn't mean the Seven are "real", any more than any other deieties in martinverse. I think we're asked to look at the different peoples and cultures and their religions and how they explain their world, including magic. And maybe reflect on our own world and religions.
  9. Hey, anything that keeps Jaime alive, I'm fine with, lol, but... No. Jaime isn't Azor Ahai Reborn, imo. If he picks up Oathkeeper, he's gonna be a bit clumsy with it, he hasn't - yet - quite mastered lefty sword fighting. No magics, please. Jaime has had one or two "magic" brushes (weirwood dream, vision of Joanna) but he's a practical man and has to get to grips with his new life, himself, in a practical and honest intropective way first. Besides, he's not one of the big main characters (Arya, Dany, Jon, Bran, Tyrion, perhaps Sansa), so his story, however interesting or compelling it might be, is just a side story to the real big one. He might play a part in it - I hope he does - but it won't be a leading role. As to LSH, I don't see Jaime getting out of that encounter alive, so I'm hoping for something like the Blackfish capturing him (aah, the possibilities of humiliating Jaime further) and maybe stashing him as a prisoner in a loyal Stark stronghold, say, like Greywater Watch... Where Jaime could encounter Howland Reed... And all that regret/guilt about Rhaegar's children could find new meaning (also park him safely out of the way of fAegon). His children Tommen and Myrcella are still problems for Jaime. He seems to be wanting to be a real, honest dad to them, but it's complicated. Can he get them off the throne and save their lives? Cersei will never allow abdication and thus her loss of power. Oh, diddums, it's gonna be intetesting.
  10. Sorry to get so mundane on this thread, but without any deeper ASoIaF analysis, I've always just liked GRRM's literary metaphors in describing trees. Soldier pines and sentinels... obviously another kind of evergreen, needle bearing tree, perhaps akin to some kind of spruce or fir. The point is that it immediately evokes an image, an idea in the readers' minds. I also like it that people in-universe seem to know these trees by these names, sentinels and soldiers. It could just be descriptive for them nowadays, but it could be an echo of an older time when trees - all trees - held more spiritual meaning for the people. Trees, woods, still hold some spiritual meaning to people in my country today, and we've been Christianised from the 11th, 12th century onwards. Even today, one of the favourite relaxations is to "walk in the woods" (or ski, in the winter). We're regular tree-huggers here, lol. Not in the OP, but I'm interested in birds in ASoIaF as expressions of spirituality. My people's pre-Christian religion apparently placed great store in birds, there's loads of bird imagery starting with the creation myth (a waterbird's egg cracked in half to create heaven and earth) to the ideas of afterlife (flying in the sky, or heaven - the words are the same in my language - with the birds). In fact, the asteroid belt visible to Earth, commonly called the Milky Way or similar in most European languages, is called Linnunrata, the birds' way, in my language. Indeed, to this day, modern 21st century, perfect, peaceful home - personal or national - is called lintukoto, bird home. I don't even particularly like birds.
  11. I think we can be fairly sure that Brienne leading the unsuspecting Jaime straight to LSH to be killed is not the story. Even by the end of ADWD, Jaime has been missing for weeks. I'd think LSH or the BwoB with her would advertise such a major kill far and wide. Maybe they have found a way to use Jaime, to blackmail him in some way? I just find that implausible, because the vengeanceful LSH wants Jaime dead, plain and simple. So maybe he and Brienne never got there, maybe they just took off (but what about poor Pod and Ser Hyle?), maybe they were intercepted by the Blackfish and his troops, and the Blackfish treats with his former niece? I dunno. I just don't believe Jaime is going to die at the hands of LSH in the early chapters of the next book. He'll die but not just yet.
  12. Thank you, Odin's Beard, for giving the reference to the GRRM story. Stories. I'll try to find it/them. The surrender of Sveaborg is only "inexplicable" from the Swedish point of view. It's quite understandable from the point of view of Finnish military and civic leaders, nominally sworn to the Swedish "rik", realm. Even back then, there were ideas of Finnish independence floating around the upper classes in Finland, and they thought siding with Russia against Sweden could achieve that aim. In the event, it took another 100+ years, cutting the cord to Sweden, becoming a Russian "Grand Duchy" with very wide autonomy (kept our own laws, our own reformed Lutheran religion, our customary foreign trade rights, heck, even got our own currency), newly found national identity complete with a national epic, Kalevala, collected by the tireless Dr Lönnroth in his birch bark shoes, and the attempts at "Russification" towards the end of the 19th century, early 20th century, Sibelius's music, Gallen-Kallela's paintings, workers' rights, political rights (first country in the world to give full political rights to all citizens in 1906 - New Zealand gave the vote to women before us but kept the Maori disenfrancised) that did it, pushed us over the edge. Uhm, the Russian revolution might've helped. Lenin was a bit busy in 1917 so signed off our independence, so that was surprisingly easy. We then promptly made it more difficult by engaging in a bitter civil war. Whites and Reds. Haves and have-nots. Conservative powers that be, teamed with many ordinary large or small farm-owning rural people (such as my great grandparents, my granddad, at 17, fought in the civil war) against poor tenant farmers, the rural landless poor, urban factory workers, socialists. Even today, 100 years after the event, the civil war is a sore point. We can't even agree on what to call it, civil war is the most neutral term but even today many people baulk at it and prefer "freedom war", think "civil war" is a leftist term. Citizens' War, Red Rebellion, Butchers' War... This from the people who stood together in 1939-1945 and keep mythologising our heroic wars. I think why the civil war is still such a sore point is that it doesn't fit the national, heroic narrative engendered during and after the Winter War and Continuation War (1939-1945) and during the reconstruction era. Ho-hum.
  13. Brienne was not there when Roose asked Jaime to give his regards to his father and Jaime answered back, as common coutesy would demand, to give his regards to Robb. So there isn't anybody to exenorate Jaime, explain he just said those words as a common courtesy, not as some dark and devious affirmation of the Red Wedding. We, the readers, know that Jaime didn't know the plan, the horror of it - he's shaken when he learns of it - but, once again, few people would believe Jaime, more are ready to cast him in worst light possible. Kinda story of his life, eh?
  14. There's no way LSH will see any reason when it comes to Jaime. She heard Roose Bolton saying "Jaime Lannister sends his regards", so thinks Jaime had a hand in planning the Red Wedding - he didn't, though he was aware that Roose planned on betraying the Starks. As they were leaving Harrenhall, Roose sends his regards to Jaime's father and Jaime almost quips his regards to Robb. Roose uses this to the utmost effect at the wedding. Catelyn trusted Hand of the King (acting) Tyrion's word, given in open court, to exchange her daughters - her remaining children besides Robb - and thought Jaime was big enough a prize for them. She wasn't thinking war strategy or politics, she just wanted to save her remaining babies. Tyrion, on the other hand, already knew Arya had disappeared, presumed dead, by the time he made his offer. Jaime gets back to KL, fully intending to honour his oath to Catelyn. And what does he find? Arya disappeared since Ned's arrest and Sansa married to his brother and now also disappeared. Huh? How exactly is he supposed to honour his oath to Catelyn? As the Lord Commander of Tommen's Kingsguard, he does the best he could think of: send the honourable, skillfull non-knight Brienne to find and protect the last Stark, to honour her as well as his oath. She certainly sees it as honouring his oath. LSH will not care a whit for all this. She won't care that neither of her daughters were in KL when Jaime finally got there. She'll only see the failure of delivering his oath (something Jaime is also aware of). She remembers Roose's (self-serving) words when he killed Robb. Jaime is dead if he ever reaches LSH. But I don't think it's his time to die, yet. There's the valonqar thing, and also hints of kingmaking and protecting Rhaegar's children... So it could point to him getting on the (f)Aegon bandwagon, or, more probably, the Jon Snow bandwagon and the real war in the north. We'll see. Blackfish could be a way of saving Jaime and Brienne from LSH. He could be horrified at what his niece has become and gets to Jaime and Brienne before they get to her. Jaime and Brienne end up prisoners together again, but at least with a reasonable, living person. I dunno. But I don't think Jaime is going to die early in the next book. I feel there's lots of story still to tell. I don't expect Jaime to survive to the end but dying early in the next book in the hands of LSH just doesn't seem right storywise. I could be wrong, of course.
  15. Thank you, everyone, for a really entertaining and partly insightful read! So, the "perfumed seneschal" could be the ship Selaesori Qhoran, Illyrio, Varys, Moqorro, Tyrion, Jorah, even Penny; Daario, Reznak do Zigzag or some other zingzang grak Meereenese; several of the Tyrells, Jon Snow, Arya, Satin, even Sam; Quentyn, Marwyn, the Undying/warlocks, even Quaithe in a double bluff. I probably forget somebody/something that's been proposed. I think Lollygag somewhere above (sorry, I don't know how to make your name appear in red :-( ) made a very good point, that it's not this, that or the other. There is no "one true meaning" to any of the prophecies, dreams, visions. What is interesting, literary wise, is how characters themselves interpret them and how it influences their thoughts and actions. GRRM has warned readers, through several characters, to be wary of prophecies, visions and the like. A sword without a hilt, bite off your prick, Melisandre's fuzzy visions and her dodgy interpretations,, and so on and so forth. So I don't think "the perfumed seneschal" refers to just one thing, especially not just one person. Quaithe's warning seems to have some truth (pale mare, the sickness; Quentyn, the unwelcome or too-late suitor; Tyrion, JonCon, (f)Aegon, Moqorro, Victarion/Euron, Raznag do Zingzong and other Meereenese, all trying to use her for their own ends)... The ship, Selaesori Qhoran, still afloat during Quaithe's cryptic words, could be seen as bringing Westerosi politics to Dany, before she has had time to learn enough about it and form a balanced picture, so dangerous to form snap decisions and allegiances on imperfect information. So, beware! Whatever turns out to be "the truth" after the next book is published, I'm sure there'll be enough leeway to let many fan theories and our discussions to continue. :-)