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  1. Jaime's secret

    Aargh, I wrote a long, well-reasoned whatever... cyberspace ate it. Basically: I enjoy reading about Jaime, I'm glad every time thete's a thread about him. Jaime, the way GRRM has written him, is the most interesting and compelling character for me. Yeah, all Stark fans hate him for Bran. He does... or used to do all kinds of tnings. Even Stark fan things.
  2. Ramsay wrote the pink letter

    I love all these pink letter speculations. Ramsay, Stannis, Mance, whoever. All the speculation unearths lots of interesting points to think about. I'll think about them and re-read the relevant chapters and maybe then come up with a coherent view.
  3. Jon and Val compendium.

    Aah, pardons, I misunderstood. I hope my inane remarks won't spoil your endeavour. Sorry.
  4. Crackpot theories you like?

    This. I love reading all the crackpotteries. I don't agree with most of them and see the fan biases and failings in logic (anagrams, anyone?) but they're good fun and give new angles to the reading experience. Fun. We all wouldn't be here unless we all really love these books, so we'll make the online experience our home where we chatter away with like-minded people. Some even go very deep.
  5. Jon and Val compendium.

    Aah, I love Val. I love Val's flirt with Jon. Even Jon clumsily flirts back. Jon's got serious hots for this gal but he... er... knows nothing. About flirting, or Val or anything. I'll probably abstain from commenting on this thread from now on, as it seems to be made for Jon x Val shippers, and dissenters will get short shirft and their opinions will not be tolerated. Carry on.
  6. Salt and the Black Gate - Re-read Question

    I think Cotter Pyke's words (via Maester Harmune's hand (who's a known drunk, I think?)) is "dead things in the water". Are they dead dead or wights or what? I could explain it away as a description of the general disaster that the Hardhome rescue mission apparently is. But that "dead things in the water" has me worried. Maybe salt water has no effect on wights/Others. In which case, the rest of Westeros is fairly doomed, ha ha!
  7. Wow, I never noticed that v.15

    Mud is a good thing. Barri is basically spelling it out. Yet he serves the "fire" princess (soon to become blood and fire princess?). I think this is also meant for readers to think about the "heroic" KG. Barri, "the honourablest of the honourable" can see a discrepancy. A niggle. Maybe it isn't as simple as vowing and taking an oath and following orders? We see Barri deifinitely not following orders in the last chapters of aDwD (as Dany isn't there to give any orders to poor Barri). A Queensguard going "rogue", if you like. Meanwhile in Westeros, one of Barri's brothers, the only Kingsguard brother from Aerys II's time, Jaime, is riding around the Riverlands being worried about harvests. The mud aspect. Jaime doesn't want war and vengeange, he's worried about how will the smallfolk cope now that winter is coming, with granaries half-empty. Maybe the arrogant Kingslayer has learned something. As a young KG knight he questioned, or was at least amazed at the lack of questioning from the "greatest and honourablest knights in the realm". LC Gerold Hightower told him not to judge the king (while the King burned imaginary adversaries alive), Jon Darry told him we're to protect the royal family "but not her [Queen Rhaella] from him." So they let the king rape and molest his wife. Jaime committed a horrible crime, killed the king he was sworn to protect. Kingslayer, oathbreaker, doomed foreverafter. We readers know one of his reasons was noble. To save all the innocents (500,000 people) of KL from a wildfire death. The other reasons... The Mad King commanded Jaime to bring him the head of Lord Tywin. He commanded Jaime to kill his father, to become a kinslayer. Now, in Westeros, the two worst sins are breaking guest right and kinslaying. Compared to that, kingslaying is just a crime. Thirdly, Jaime wanted to kill Aerys II because he hated the guts of that little shit. Jaime'd spent two years witnessing the erratic behaviour and the atrocities, trying to cope by "going away inside". As he later advises Brienne and Tommen to do in difficult situations, so it's clear it's something Jaime did repeatedly, as his personal coping strategy. Now Jaime is trying to uphold his knightly vows, and far away in Essos, Barri is faced with a situation where he cannot just follow orders but has to take a stand, and thereby maybe break his knightly (or QG) vows - too bad it's on a different continent with a different culture, they won't understand the significance. I think Barri and Jaime are nice "mirrors" to compare.
  8. That Trip to the Crypts

    Yeah, @Crazy Cat Lady in Training, I thought of the Horn of Joramun or secret passages connecting with Gorne's Way etc., but what interests me is what and how and when did Mance get that info? Dalla, whom Mance calls a very wise lady? But why should she know anything about the WF crypts? Anyway, we're getting a bit sidetracked from the topic, which, I believe is Lady Barbrey Dustin's visit to the crypts... As to Lady Barbrey Dustin, it seemed like she wanted something confirmed. She's playing with her cards very close to her chest, she's a very intriguing character, and once again I want to thank and complement everybody who've contributed to this thread. You've given me lots of food for thought and I need to go and re-read everything now! :-D
  9. Salt and the Black Gate - Re-read Question

    My thought is that salt water is somehow a "repellent" against the Others. Fresh water (lakes, rivers) is no problem for the Others, they can easily freeze the water. Sea water doesn't freeze as easily because of the salinity, also because of the greater movement (tides, big waves, ocean currents). The Others or their wights don't seem to be able to go around the Wall east or west where it meets the oceans. Why not just bring the extreme cold with them and freeze the sea water? Seas do freeze if it's cold enough. Just look at the Arctic here on our planet Earth. Maybe it's the salt? Frozen sea water is still salty, the ice is salty. (Snow then accumulating on top of a frozen sea, though, would still be rainwater, i.e. fresh water purified by the evaporation/condensation cycle , hmmm... How thick would that layer have to be for the Others/wights to cross?) Maybe, when the Wall was first constructed, the builders hauled giant blocks of frozen sea (salt) water to make at least some of the building blocks of the Wall, because they knew that salt water and consequently salty ice would repell the Others, maybe help with any other spells they put on the Wall. I'm just spitballing here, I haven't developed a theory or even a hypothesis around this. It's just a thought that comes to mind. The sea around where I live does freeze in the winter, we go cross-country skiing across the ice (covered in freshwater snow) and icebreakers keep the shipping lanes open. Winter things. As to Bran tasting that tiny trickle of melt inside the Wall... If the Wall was made, at least partly, from sea ice, it'd explain the salinity. The highly emotional description (face, mouth, eyes, tear...) is misdirection, the real clue is the salt water.
  10. That Trip to the Crypts

    The first explanation that springs to mind is that during his first visit (with LC Qorgyle when Robb and Jon were kids) or (alleged) second visit (when King Robert visited WF), he didn't know to look for anything special. It's something like two years since King Robert visited WF. Mance could've found out something in the meantime, something that sparks his interest in the WF crypts. Just don't ask me what that something is, lol! :-D Anyway, I want to thank all the contributors to this thread for interesting and thought-provoking posts, especially @Illyrio Mo'Parties, @estermonty python and @sweetsunray. Now I feel like I have to go and re-read all this stuff! :-D
  11. Dorian's blood oranges

    I think the overripe blood oranges were a comment on Prince Doran. Nurse a grievance, make a grand conspiracy, but it might be too late. By "late", I mean "notimmediate"
  12. Jaime wielding Dawn?

    Sorry to dig up such an old thread but I was searching after info on Dawn and stumbled on this thread. And as Jaime is one of my favourite literary characters, what with all the conflict and grey complexity... I discounted all the simplistic "Jaime is eeeevil because he defenestrated Bran!" and "Only Daynes can wield Dawn" type of replies. I think Ravenous Reader and Lord Martin especially have contributed much to examine who exactly Jaime is - he doesn't even know it himself. That's why he's an interesting character. As to the legendary House Dayne sword, Dawn, only to be wielded by a worthy scion of that house... Apologies that I don't know how to pull quotes on my tablet, and some of my speculation is just that, anyway. Speculation. The books have several mentions of the Long Night that happened thousands of years ago - before the literate Andals came to Westeros. I think Sam Tarly makes a point about this. The old "history" was written down hundreds or thousands of years after the fact by Andals, or, rather, Andal maesters, even in the First Men North, so it's not all that accurate. Sam doubts it, all the timelines. Sam, diligently (and blissfully) buried in the Castle Black library unearths a couple of pieces of information. The Children of the Forest used to give the Night's Watch dragonglass (obsidian) weapons annually. Because only dragonglass and dragonsteel can kill the Others. Jon and Sam both then speculate that "dragon steel" might be Valyrian steel. The Long Night happened apparently 8000 years ago, long before the rise of Valyria. Long before anybody forged Valyrian steel. Dawn, on the other hand... There's the apocryphal story of the star falling and a sword forged from it. At that time, Westeros was a First Men (Bronze Age) culture, so a steel sword would've been miraculous. Not to mention that even in our world, meteorite steel (iron+carbon) was considered superior to any Earth-made steel. Maybe in the Long Night the only way to kill the Others was dragonglass... and this ONE sword that wasn't bronze like everybody else's. Sword of the morning...Lightbringer... Dawn. Maybe because of this unique quality, it was sent for safekeeping as far south as south goes, i.e. Dorne. House Dayne were charged with it, made the safekeepers, that's why so much mythos and legends have come attached to the sword... And the true meaning has been forgotten, or at least muddied by all kinds of later chivalry. Steel has become the staple weapons material since then, but ordinary steel doesn't seem affective against the Others. Only dragonglass and dragonsteel (Dawn)... But maybe reputedly "dragon-forged" Valyrian steel could be of help? Dawn is important. Valyrian steel is important. That's why we readers have been told about these things. Jaime gives away a priceless Valyrian steel sword to the gal who has more honour than he... the gal he secretly has the hots for, the gal he wants to retrieve his honour. With the Valyrian steel sword Oathkeeper, reforged from Ice. Jaime knows what he's doing. Oh, and to all those who want Oathkeeper and Widows' Wail reforged back into one new Ice... Considering the wars to come, it's better to have TWO functional Valyrian steel swords than one unwieldy ceremonial, sentimental one, neh?
  13. Peter Vaughan/Maester Aemon dies at 93

    My thoughts are with Peter Vaughan's family and friends. If it's any consolation, at least he lived a long, full life and died peacefully surrounded by loved ones. GoT was blessed to have his talent, skill and charisma in the small but important role of Maester Aemon. Vaughan was perfect in the role. A blind, frail old man who had amazing perception, strength and force but also warmth, empathy and humour. Peter Vaughan portrayed all this to perfection. Of all the deaths in GoT, Maester Aemon's is still the one that makes me cry the most. (Hodor is the only one who comes even close.) It's a combination of the character and the actor who portrayed him. We'll never see his like again... Now his watch is ended.
  14. map matters

    Yes, I'm well aware of this phenomenon. Last July, we sailed around the north of Norway, in the Barents Sea and the north North Sea. Affected by what we saw with our bare eyes, but especially the view from our powerful sea binoculars. We adjsuted for it. What I tried to say was that you'd have to be at least 10km away not to see land in clear weather, even in warmer climes. Maybe I'm not expaining this well. When you're sailing on the big blue sea, a thin line in the horizon (maybe 50km away) is seeing land. I don't know what Davos would qualify as seeing land but he'd know when he's NOT seeing land. On the seastacks and looking south (=across Blackwater Bay) and not seeing the opposite shore, Davos said he's not seeing land there. And GRRM hasn't an idea, and the books are a bit dodgy in this respect.
  15. map matters

    Oh, and this. Yay! I love to meet another map-lover. I love, love, love maps. The map is not the territory, but it tells you a lot abot the territory, if you know how to read the map, yayahaha!. Sure, I like all the online map resources, Google Maps and all... but I like old-fashoned paper maps. They give you perspective and scale. I also know how to use a compass. Give me a proper map and a compass and I'll never get lost.