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  1. It seems to me that rather than creating actual cadet branches with separate holdings of their own, such as the Karstarks or Daynes of High Hermitage or others mentioned above, Westerosi tradition seems to keep younger sons as a part of the lord's household or head to seek their fortunes elsewhere. Kevan Lannister has no holdings of his own, but works for Tywin. The myriad of Frey sons and grandsons all seem to have remained at the Twins. None of the Karstark uncles, Umber uncles, Mace Tyrell's siblings, Blackfish, Oberyn and Llewyn Martell, etc. have been granted lands or titles beyond "Ser" (Martells are born as "Prince"). A few cadet branches have sprouted recently, but those were mostly born out of the necessities of war (Nestor Royce, Lancel, Emmon, etc.) rather than being "true" cadets, a la Karstarks. Since we know nothing about the origins Lannisters of Lannisports, Starks of White Harbor, or Arryns of Gulltown, we really have no idea how these offshoots were created. I think it could be that these families were created by younger sons who said "forget it" and went to learn a trade of some sort, rather than live as an underling in their brother's/uncle's/cousin's household. They're all located in their region's city, and medieval cities were places where tradesmen and merchants lived, while lords and ladies just visited when summoned by their superior. After all, Cat did not mention the Starks of White Harbor or Barrowton when listing possible heirs, she mentioned non-Starks (in name) from the Vale as Robb's next closest heirs.
  2. Maybe Joffrey's murder was in part retribution for the Lannisters disrupting the Tyrell-Stark alliance? Or, I should say, the timing of Joffrey's murder was moved up in retribution, since Joffrey's death was pretty much inevitable from the moment the Tyrell-Lannister alliance was proposed. The Stark-Tyrell alliance combined with the Lannister-Tyrell alliance could have led to a cessation of hostilities between Starks and Lannisters, at least temporarily, and a Stark-Tyrell alliance would mean nothing good for the Ironborn, especially pre-Euron, freeing up the Lannister-Tyrells to deal with Stannis. Tommen becomes lord of the Stormlands, guided by Kevan, and Dorne is at least nominally placated by Myrcella and Trystane's engagement. Everything calms down, Margaery has a baby boy, then whoops Joffrey falls of the battlements, comes down with some mystery ailment, has a hunting accident, or is slain by a member of his own Kingsguard after threatening to burn down the city, or whatever, and Margaery's baby inherits the Iron Throne. The only person the Stark-Tyrell alliance does nothing for is Littlefinger, who learns of its existence and promptly turns it on its head in such a way that he is the only winner. I think the Tyrells were in earnest when they reached out to Sansa: Willas moves to Winterfell, Garlan inherits Highgarden, Loras is in the Kingsguard, and Margaery's child will be King, and there's nothing the Lannisters can do about it because Margaery's child is a Lannister as well.
  3. Korn's Freak on a Leash for Ramsay and Theon
  4. Tyrion is used to women being overtly feminine: highborn ladies of the court and his father's household, and whores, as is almost everyone else raised in Westeros - Arya and Brienne are also mistakenly identified as male. Jorah does not correct Tyrion after he mistakenly identifies Penny as a "he" either, so it is not just Tyrion.
  5. When Dany received the eggs, they were petrified. Illyrio gave her some fancy rocks, along with some silks and things. Pretty, shiny things for a young girl. It's been years since a Targaryen hatched a dragon, and they had been trying with fresher eggs than Dany's. No one could have predicted the chain events which lead to Dany hatching her eggs. Illyrio's gift was intended to be one of style over substance. If the eggs were intended to be an essentially useless gift, it would make sense for Illyrio to give them to Dany rather than Aegon, The Last Great Hope. Giving Dany the eggs ensured her loyalty, in case she survived the Dothraki Sea, but Aegon already owes his entire cause to Illyrio, and is Argon is ultimately the one getting his true support. Still a little plot holey, but no more than many other unexplained things.
  6. So would Arya's and Jon's wolf dreams be green/earth or blue/ice? Or are they something different since they aren't really prophetic? (Sorry I know this is more off topic than it really should be but I'm curious)
  7. If you include Old Nan, you have to include everyone else who was at Winterfell when Ramsay arrived and has yet to reappear, such as Beth Cassel. Oh, and for that matter, we did not actually see Maester Luwin die. Yoren died off-stage, although Arya did later find his body, or at least a body dressed in black with an ax in its back - it has been a woefully long time since I did a reread, and I cannot remember if she made an actual identification or just saw a body dressed in black... Crackpot submission: Rhaegar
  8. Only a handful of people know Arya survived, and of those people, none have spread word of her survival. At the time of the first quote, Cersei was acting as though she held both Sansa and Arya. By the time of Ramsay's letter, she has been missing for so long with no hint of her survival, it would be seemingly foolish to the point of being delusional to think she was still alive. Also, Jon needed to accept all his siblings were beyond his help in order to prevent him from breaking his vows to go assist them.
  9. I vote 3. Brienne has so gar been shown to be one of the only truly good people in the series, if she thinks there is a way she can uphold her vows/oaths/missions/ whatever from both Lady Catelyn and Jaime she will act accordingly. This may be hopeless optimism on my part, but someone needs to do the right thing...
  10. Doesn't Jon tell Val greyscale isn't mortal in kids? Like, specifically mentions kids? Not sure from where Jon gets his medical knowledge, of course, but Jon's (and Val's) knowledge of greyscale makes me think it may be slightly more ubiquitous than the books make it out to be (limited to Shireen and the river). Or, there are two separate diseases that present as greyscale - per the quotes about the disease's progression, face should be affected at the end, resulting in blindness, but Shireen only appears to have been affected on her face. Kinda like the difference between chicken pox and shingles vs. chicken pox and smallpox.
  11. There is a sort of reverse precedent for Lewyn Martell being named to the Kingsguard at or around the same time as Elia's engagement to Rhaegar: Loras being named to fill then next available Kingsguard position was part of the negotiations for Margaery's betrothal to Joffrey. By the time of Elia's betrothal, Arianne had already been born, resulting in Lewyn being one more place removed from inheriting, and with the Martell succession reasonably secure, it would make sense for Princess Martell to try to secure a prominent position for her brother. As to Aerys's paranoia, I think it is worth noting that Mama Martell decided to try for the Targaryen engagement after being snubbed by Tywin. With both parties eager to upstage Tywin, placing a Martell in the vacant Kingsguard position could gave been another way to say "fuck you" to Tywin - especially if Tywin had been campaigning in favor of someone else, such as one of his brothers or some other loyal (to Tywin) Westerman.
  12. I would think if Tywin was still alive and if Tyrion and Sansa had a son, Roose would be invited to step down, or he would be sat down. The example above of Emmon Frey and Riverrun is a good one, but who is Emmon Frey to Tywin? He is no one, the younger son of a lower-tier lord whose engagement to his sister was vociferously protested by Tywin. But Emmon's children are also Genna's children, and if Tywin survived, Tywin could easily make Emmon's heir Lord Paramont of the Riverlands, and perhaps even Warden of the East depending on the situation the Vale plays out. I can't imagine Tywin relished the idea of Petyr Baelish being his of equal status, and the same goes for Roose. Roose, the Freys, and even Littlefinger are the WO5K edition of Gregor Clegane and Amory Lorch, doing Tywin's dirty work and then swept under the rug as much d's possible. Tywin's legacy seems to be not so much in his children as his grandchildren: Joffrey and then The ommen became King; Myrcella and Trystane could take Storm's End and possibly displace the Tyrells as Warden of the South; Jaime's expected children after he leaves the Kingsguard would inherit the Rock; and Tyrion's children with Sansa inherit the North. Add in Kevan and Genna's kids and you have Lannisters all over the Seven Kingdoms.
  13. House Baratheon was founded by a bastard friend/relative (? on my phone, can't remember exact relationship between Aegon and Orys) of the conqueror marrying the daughter and heir of the last Storm King. The Durrandon name died out, but the Baratheons adopted most if not all of the family's characteristics (sigil, words, etc.). Perhaps it will continue under similar circumstances? The only caveat of course is the greyscale...
  14. Varamyr was attacked by wights, and as his body was dying he left it and entered his lead wolf. Later Bran-as-Summer encounters Varamyr's pack and both Bran and Varamyr recognize each other as wargs. Summer eventually defeats Varamyr's wolves, and they're now Summer's pack.
  15. Serving in the Kingsguard is a lifetime commitment, it wasn't until Cersei needed an excuse to get rid of a potential threat to her son's reign that anyone was dismissed from the Kingsguard without also being sent to the Wall. Tywin's justification for the murder of Rhaegar's children was the Lannisters came late to the Rebellion and needed to prove their loyalty to Robert; the same may hold true for why he did not immediately demand Jaime's release from the Kingsguard - he may have thought he did not have enough capital to make such a request. But then, as time goes on and Robert drains Aerys's treasury, Tywin begins lending money to the Crown hand over fist - perhaps he would have been willing to forgive said debt in exchange for his son's release from his vows? Decisions concerning actual governance were not really Robert's forte, and Jon Arryn seems to have been focused on ensuring an end to all hostilities. Releasing Jaime from his Kingsguard vows without punishment could have reignited pro-Targaryen sentiment, which the Martels could have capitalized on as well - pardoning and releasing Jaime could have been interpreted as a reward for Tywin. Leaving Jaime where he was may seem like a terrible plan, but when you consider the alternatives in light of what what Jon Arryn was trying to accomplish, it was really the only decision he could make. (I don't actually agree with the decision, as I think pre-maiming Jaime is the antithesis of a "good" Kingsguard, but I can see why Jon Arryn let it be.)