Tyrion Lannister

The way they were talking in the behind the scenes thing right after the show gave me the impression that what happened in this episode was mostly decisions they made for themselves. Like there was one line that went something like, "we've known for about three seasons that Arya was going to do this", and don't make any reference to the books or George. As opposed to the "hold the door" one I saw, where they talked about how mindblowing it was when George told them about Hodor's fate.

Never have I ever seen a more satisfying death than this one. Good dog.

So, Jon and Sansa have left the wall...the WWs are on the move... Dolorous Edd is fucked.

I do agree with that. It would've been better if one of them was just about to reach Bran and Summer saved the day before getting swarmed. As it was it just seemed kind of pointless.

We may not see the rest of it right away, but I would bet money we'll see "Promise me, Ned" before the end of the season. It would make zero sense for them to film that ToJ fight, especially the way that they did with the forcible exit, and then never revisit it.

Who says the same isn't in store for the wolves in the books?

Didn't they introduce Tysha, or at least her story, back in Season 1 when Tyrion was with Bronn and Shae before the "battle?" It's been a long time since I've seen Season 1, but I definitely seem to remember that happening.

I had no issue with Cersei offering up the Tommen/Marg match. I think she suspected that Tywin would make that decision anyway, so why not make it seem like it was her idea and hopefully curry favor with Mace before the trial? If the valonqar prophecy is ever introduced into show canon, she's had reason to fear Tyrion for years. Now she thinks he's murdered her son, and no doubt believes he'll be back to finish her and her two remaining kids--unless she can make sure he loses this trial and is executed. To get the weight of that prophecy off of her shoulders, I can see her going to great lengths and doing things she finds distasteful, like cozying up to Marg.

Thank you for posting this. I didn't understand the complaints people had about the scene, beyond rape and sexual abuse obviously being a tough thing to watch, but I hadn't thought about it from this perspective. I guess my mind was too busy dwelling on Karl drinking wine from the Old Bear's skull. :ack:

Talk about horrible timing! After Joffrey sliced the pie, the power flickered for a second...long enough to knock out the cable, of course. By the time it came back, Joffrey was dead! I watch with a show-only person, who about ten minutes earlier said he was praying Joffrey's wedding went as well for him as the RW did for the Starks. The stupid storm deprived him of that moment. I liked Oberyn's scene with the Lannisters, and his little mention of Myrcella. That guy is awesome, and will be taken from us far too soon for my liking. We got a lot more of Jack Gleeson, but I'll miss him anyhow. He somehow got me to hate Joffrey at least as much as I did in the books, if not more. Great bit of casting and acting with him.

I was dreading seeing RobbWind, but it wasn't as horrible as I'd imagined it to be. Not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing. Anything that could potentially lead to more scenes between Jaime/Tywin and Jaime/Tyrion is a good idea in my book, so I approve of Jaime and Brienne arriving in King's Landing before the PW. The ending was underwhelming. I'm not a big fan of the UnCat story in general, but that reveal seemed like it would have made for a pretty effective ending. Either way, they should have gone with something other than Dany's silly crowdsurfing. I don't think this episode was terrible, but it wasn't great either. And a week after the Red Wedding, an average episode is going to pale in comparison.

Wait--so news of Dany's dragons has reached King's Landing, and Tywin thinks it's no big deal?

Yeah, agreed. I'm not worried for Gendry; I think he'll be fine.

I will be too. I'm thinking that instead of Tywin taking Shae into his bed, he'll have her killed, which will give Tyrion another reason to shoot him.

There was no way this episode was going to compete with last week's, which was among my favorite in the entire series, but I still liked it. The stuff in King's Landing was good, as was the Jaime/Brienne/Roose bit (though I would have liked to have seen more there.) I've seen a lot of people complaining about the whitewashing of Tyrion, but it seems to me like no one has been whitewashed to the degree that Cersei has. Most of her worst acts (having Robert's bastards killed, trying to have Tyrion killed during the Blackwater) just get passed off to Joff instead. Unless she was just lying to Tyrion, but it certainly didn't seem that way to me. I actively dislike TV show-Robb, and sympathize with Edmure far more than I did in the books. If I had felt this way about Robb in the books, the Red Wedding wouldn't have had nearly the impact it did on me.