Theon {HUNGRY WOLF} Stark

So? Martin also likes all his ASOIAF books & characters. That doesnt mean people cant criticize Dany's flat story arc or Tyrion's whiny guilt trips in ADWD or Brienne's informative but eventually boring Travelogue in AFFC.

If you really go by that logic, what the fuck were Snow Winterfell & Lysa's Flight doing in the seventh episode of the season, when it clearly happened in last chapter,right before the prologue? Maybe they should have done that in last episode, followed by LSH reveal. Then how much emotional impact that would have created,you think?

Well, thats what happens, when adaptatations try to prepare own story lines, or try to mess with the timeline. And once timeline is fucked (season 3) you try to streamline it to bring all strands of story on a even scale by creating fillers. You ignore certain storyline and it comes back to bite you in the ass. Till last episode all filler scenes or so called character development was looking good on screen. Greyworm/Missendei is a prime example. In those two scenes it looked cute,but now in hindsight it looks unnecessary. Ditto Beetle speech. Regarding storylines. D& D have always treated Wall story as second class citizen in comparison to other stories.KL, Wherever Dany, Tyrion are, get preferantial treatment,maybe some degree of tweaking to keep them in good graces of Unsullied. We get it D&D, this show was your concept and you have every right to do with it as you please,but it shouldnt be forgotten that it was the popularity of books that enabled the show's initial success, so sometimes you should consider how a certain event has repurcussions for a certain character, in terms of their popularity in audience. You shouldnt always fuck it up, like you did with this episode. Regarding character treatment. D& D have left no doubt that they truly hate Stannis' character in books and it looks like they will continue butchering his tv poryrayal. I mean if they can flesh out Cersei's character so much, despite having no pov till now, if they can flesh out Tywin despite having mimimal page presence, if they can create stuff to show how Varys/littlefinger work their intrigues , how come they decided to butcher Stannis's portrayal on screen. It clearly shows character bias on their part. If he wasnt doing some major shit in TWOW they might as well have killed him by now, just to save some dollars. As for this episode, it was beautiful telivison,when seen as stand alone project. But when viewed in entirty of this season, it feels disjointed from whole series. There is no smooth cohession with overall plot. Blackwater was also one-site episode but was miles better then Watchers on the Wall, because of proper build up whole season and a satisfying ending. For people who hate the viewers who they call purists. How would you have felt if Blackwater went like this. Mandon Moore is killed by Pod, Tyrion falls after being sliced across the face by Mandon Moore and then credits roll. Next episode opens with Tyrell/ Lannister cavalory charge and Stannis is forced to retreat after three minutes of screen time? You get the idea, why some people are pissed about No Stannis this weak. Disclaimer; Not a Stannis fan, didnt like him till Wall story. So no need to throw vitriol at me. PEACE OUT. :) :) :)

Keep the posts coming for guys like me, who have read the books but cant watch the show right now. :) :)

Sorry, double post.

Re Arya's id reveal at bloody gate? Are they setting up stage for fArya from next episode? Mybe baelish gets info (not Sansa) & makes a deal with Cetsei (tywin dead) to provide someone from his brothel for Ramsay's bride. Afterall they're going to Winterfell. Maybe he will use that info as a leverage with Sansa somehow in future?