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  1. I liked your theory and ran with it. I hadn't noticed that, but now you mention it yes he does seem to have lost the use of his arms. Lol to the rest. You started it. Haha, he needs his arms for that. Thanks, at least one of them was good, the law of averages and all that. Loving James Brown. Exactly. Haha. So many (Br)angles with this one. You certainly are, lol. Let's hope you and many others are wrong (he says with no confidence at all) Love it. Oh dear, that could go either way, which is never a good thing. I'd say it's about 50/50? I apologise for lowering the tone after your eloquent and wonderfully written rendition of Bran in Jon's broken sword. But as eloquent as you always are..............the fact still remains you were talking about Bran in Jon's Longclaw so all is fair game after that. In other words, it's your own fault if your nennys were moaning and groaning in frustration. I may have brought shame on myself and my family, but I protest I was led on by the devil's muse. I went too far you mean. Perhaps so, but there was this cool poster talking about various phallic symbolism such as broken swords, cave entrances etc. I think I picked up these ideas from her. Hahahaha, loving that link. Oh my! Aha, you see it's all becoming clearer! Good work again. Well there you go, everything is falling into place! This would all make a well supported, if not tinfoil heavy theory. I hope there was more nennys moaning and groaning in pleasure than frustration, but I again sincerely apologise for any cringing I caused. Your fault.
  2. If Bran is dic(k)tating such passion, perhaps he should have an impressive title like our dragon queen. No need for kneeling unless in certain positions circumstances. Something like this......... Please stand to attention for Brandon Stark, specialist in broken swords, warger of willy's, controller of cocks and vanquisher of Viagra. Foreskinchanger, manipulating minds of members, a seer some say specialises slipping schlongs, controller of elements (the pillar) and the stones and master of the hollow hill. Thinking how this will play out in the books perhaps Bloodraven would be the better choice. He is after all a one-eyed snake rooted within the hollow hill already, and he is a Targ, so keep it in the family, right? Targ three way anyone? Lord of the caves, cave entrances, hollow hills, broken swords, bloody swords and their scabbards...........Okay, I'll stop now. LOL. So is being stabbed in the belly numerous times. And the heart for that matter, it makes no odds, the Starks keep rising harder and.....oh shit wrong House. Apologies for not stopping when I said I would.
  3. Hi Tijgy, awesome post. Your new book sounds interesting, a lot of the Celtic stories I’ve been reading have the various subjects turn into birds or swans among other things. The Children of Lir is a good example of transformation into swans, and then they experience a time lapse of three hundred years. A lot of the old Irish tales have mortals visit/connect with the otherworld and the past, present and future gets mixed up, sometimes people could spend thirty years in the otherworld only to return at the exact time they left, others would be there for mere days but when they return hundreds of years have passed. The old [Fae] gods in their caves/hollow hills/otherworld capable of visiting the past, present and future, hmm. I would also be interested whether or not the author mentions what these pagan rituals involve, I’ve been looking into that myself recently, for asoiaf purposes of course. Haha, very good point. She's on to you @ravenous reader All very cool stuff Tijgy. I like your mention of the different animals, wind and water etc. Some of the gods would also appear in mists accompanied by some sort of song or beautiful music, again thoughts of Bloodraven and asoiaf come to mind. And regarding the wind, the early people of Ireland would at that time often cite a presence in the wind when there was 'a rustling of the leaves', again very like Bran and the greenseers. Awesome catch!! Although I suppose I would say that, as I too posted this a while back. Seriously though, some of the Celtic mythology you're obviously reading at the moment has many similarities to asoiaf, it's great fun reading and as you've found can also be rewarding. I know you'll pick up on loads more of these similarities having spent time posting with you in the Bran threads. Hey thanks, that's a beautiful version of the song. Nice! Regarding the songs/final song/Song of Amergin, as you've noted it was vital to the Milesians as they defeated the magical Tuatha de dannan in battle, enabling them to withstand the Tuatha magic, who themselves controlled the elements and sent forth the storm. With victory assured for the Milesians, both sides then made a pact saying that they would split the island between them. The Milesians claimed the land above ground and the Tuatha de dannan were given the domain below ground. [That sounds familiar] This is the time in Irish history that the Tuatha de dannan retreat into the ‘otherworld’ to live in the hollow hills and caves where they would look over and protect their former land [protecting the realm?] The Tuatha are also called the 'Sidhe' and from their hollow hills/caves/otherworld they visit the land occasionally but mainly by inhabiting the wind, mist etc. Which sounds even more like Bran and Bloodraven. I have touched on some of this in my hollow hills thread, it would suit in the Bran thread too. Back to your quote, it’s said the magic of the Druids [or in this case Amergin] is at its most powerful when in the form of a song, a song that invokes the forest, the sea, the sky etc. The words of wisdom, the words of power, the cutting word, the cold word, which of course RR has written about in her excellent Killing Word thread. Anyway, cool post as usual Tijgy, and thanks for the poems. I hope you enjoy your read into Celtic mythology and all the cool animal transformation/control of the elements/magic and song etc. And you never know, invoking such poetry may just unleash 'your' hidden powers as the Princess of the Green, you could team up with the poetess.
  4. Hi Seams. I have been pondering that scene, it's actually blackberry wine that Tyrion drinks and not the blackbelly rum mentioned elsewhere. After some research I found that blackberry wine was actually drank in rituals to try and contact the Sidhe/Fae, or another technique was to pour the wine out onto the ground as an offering to them. The one and only instance in the text where blackberry wine is drank, is when Tyrion shares some with Illyrio before his journey east with Griff/Jon Con. With the ritual in mind, could the wine enable Tyrion the ability to reach for the Otherworld/have contact with the spirits, or vice versa? He certainly has a magical, time bending experience in his next chapters [The bridge and greyscale incident] Notice the description as Tyrion drinks the wine, as it seems similar to the experiences of Bran, Arya and Dani when they ingest their respective pastes or drinks. A couple of chapters later he has the time bending experience travelling under the bridge, which sounds similar to the tales of the Tuatha/Sidhe gods whereby one can lose hundreds of years while spending just a short time in the Otherworld, or conversely spend a lot of time in the Otherworld only to return at the exact time you left.
  5. Hey RR. Thanks for PK's list. With regards to the blackberry being associated with the Fae, in Irish mythology the Tuatha/Sidhe had a sacred relationship with the blackberry/blackberry bushes, and those found growing around the Sidhe Mounds were thought to act as protection against earthbound spirits and oddly enough, vampires. The protection of their thorns meant they take hold and don’t let go of those that tangle with them. With this in mind, plus potentially identifying the hollow hills throughout Westeros as George’s version of the Sidhe mounds in my hollow hills essay, I noticed the various locations the blackberry bushes were growing. @Grazdan zo Azer and PKJ have quoted these bushes growing at…. Winterfell -- The Whispers -- Oldstones and Standfast. All four of which are castles/ruins built on hollow hills, which fits nicely with the blackberry bushes growing near or around Sidhe mounds for protection. Perhaps it’s just nice background information/world building to pick up on, expanding the Celtic influence throughout the novels, or perhaps it’s more? Looking further into any more Celtic links, there is also a Tuatha de goddess called Brigid who is associated with blackberries. She is the goddess of such things as high-rising flames, highlands, hill-forts and upland areas; and of states conceived as psychologically elevated, such as wisdom, excellence, perfection, high intelligence, poetic eloquence, craftsmanship (especially blacksmithing), healing ability, druidic knowledge and of the home and hearth. Finally, some of the other interesting symbols attributed to Brigid other than the blackberry are: The Snowdrop. The first gift of Spring in the bleakness of Winter. The Flame. Imbolc is a Fire Festival and fire of all kinds is associated with Brigid - the fire of creativity, the protective hearth fire, and her fire wheel - the Brigid Cross, which heralds her as a Sun Goddess. The Serpent. In Celtic mythology Brigid was associated with an awakening hibernating serpent which emerged from its lair at Imbolc. Traditionally serpents were associated with creativity and inspiration - the powerful Kundalini energy of the Eastern Mysteries. Paths of earth energy were called serpent paths and at Imbolc they are stirred from their slumber. Imbolc Colours: White and silver for purity, green for the fresh burst of life. The Serpent symbol is interesting considering the winged serpent Summer saw above the flaming Winterfell.
  6. Hi @Tijgy I hope you're well. Great work regards the OP!!! You've done a wonderful job, this is absolutley brilliant, and complete with appropiate links to each essay for ease of reading. I know you put a lot of time and effort into this, thank you so much. I'm sure everyone here will agree, and I know @evita mgfs would love it too. Awesome, good to have the new thread up and going and it's always great to read your analysis. Good work as always, this chapter is packed with some cool stuff. I agree this chapter is important, I hadn't noticed the gradual transformation within one chapter until now, thanks. And yes, enter the Reed's as an avenue for us to gain confirmation he is indeed a warg, I really do love the wolf dream sections! ''The wolf dreams are no true dreams. You have your eye closed tight whenever you're awake, but as you drift it off it flutters open and your soul seeks out its other half. The power is strong in you." Nice!! A butterfly is often described as fluttering rather than flying and that fits in with something I stumbled upon when researching for the 'Hills' essay and the island of Naath. Butterflies have thousands of individual lenses in each eye [Thousands of eyes in one ] yet they can see a single image and are able to perceive ultraviolet wavelengths of light which would suggest clairvoyant abilities [Or Third-eye abilities?] . Furthermore, the butterfly represents the process of transformation and shape shifting. So yeah, loving that one Tijgy. As for the soul seeking out the its other half, I tend to agree with your assumption that it simply means reaching out to Summer, they are two as one etc. So until Bran harnesses his skills properly he is limited to his wolf dreams as his Third-eye flutters or flies open. I love your catch that Luwin is showing a somewhat nervous disposition during this conversation because of a young [green] boys prophecy. Again this is not something I had paid much attention to before, good work. It potentially shows another side of Luwin too, as his normal position has always been so firmly against any sort of magic/prophecy being real in this current day/age. I agree with you that Luwin knows the Ironborn are the purpetrators of said trouble along the Stoney Shore, so therefore it makes sense he must of been thinking the same thoughts as Bran and co at some point, even for just a second. I suspect Luwin had a whole different perspective regarding prophecy once the sea arrived at Winterfell, probably tugged a little harder than normal at his chain collar. I have a soft spot for Theon, but right now I'm hating that part of the books, damn you George. I've written a lot about High Heart and we've discussed the trees as rib cage to the 'heart' etc but I'm not sure we've specifically mentioned the 'heart' in High Heart so to speak. So yes, fair analysis. I think it was @Nasty LongRider who mentioned High Heart as a sort of central base or heart of the CotF's network in days gone by as well. We'll have to get some sort of key to follow regards the 'key words' and 'phrases' we look out for, it would help us as much as it would help readers/new readers on the thread. It's one of the easier ways to tune our eyes into various techniques/text to look out for. Nice, some cool thoughts in this section Tijgy. I love that you've highlighted the different Stark's and their different ways of supressing painful truths, and as you say this goes all the way back to Ned. And I love your thought that this may resemble/show similarities to the addage ''the truths the First Men once knew but are now forgotten'' and how that may include our Stark's of Winterfell. As for Bran, those truths are frightening and very real. He can try to surpress them but I don't think that card is on the table due to time, he has to learn as quickly as possible and that may mean a dark journey with darker truths. The potential boggles the mind, but imagine being the one who has to make the choices for the good of the realm moving forward etc... I so hope we get a couple or even a few Bran chapters. Again I really enjoyed this section, I know you've discussed Plato's cave allegory before but it fits really nicely into this chapter, good work. And great job in general, another very enjoyable read. In conclusion, thank you again Tijgy for the wonderful job you've done with the OP and the wonderful analysis of Bran V ACOK. I look forward to the coming months as Bran's powers re-visited progresses and we can carry on @evita mgfs great work.
  7. Hi @foxberlin Don't be sorry, I'd love to hear any ideas you've got, especially if it involves the underworld/this topic. I agree Jaime's arc would seem a little boring if he just followed Brienne around. I think he may have a role to play in the Riverlands as the River Lords try and take back power, and then it's anyone's guess after that. GRRM has proven time and time again that it's almost impossible to predict a characters future without a certain amount of foreshadowing, but I do think Jaime will have an important role to play moving forward. As for the POV's being cut down in number, that is a worry, I hope they both get out of there okay. I'm not sure anyone will ever call him Golden-hand the Just, but the fact he is thinking along these lines, and his ignoring of Cersei's letter, point to Jaime redeeming himself at some level. So why not involving Bran? Good thinking. There are so many options as to who will fill the role of Cersei's valonqar that it's hard to call, I wouldn't mind if it was Jaime as I think it may signify his 'letting go' of their weird relationship once and for all. I love this passage in the books, Dick Crabb is hilarious!! I like that you've linked Golden-hand the Just and his reluctance to use a sword/fight with the tale involving the Just Maid and Ser Galladon of Morne's same reluctance. [Even if for slightly different reasons] And yes, Brienne's 'magic' sword is sure to have a huge role to play moving forward, its origin and the name Oathkeeper certainly suggests so. I must admit that when documenting the potential for all these subterranean thrones I was looking at the histories, and how the First Men were obviously aware of this magic and attempted to fortify they're 'greenseer caves'. I had not considered some of these potential thrones being sat by our other heroes of the current narrative, I like your thinking Foxberlin!! Jaime is of course a good candidate for such an outcome having already been contacted or had green dreams as you suggest, and like Theon the fact they can be contacted at all may point towards their magic progeny of the past coming into play. Although I am opened minded about such things, I'm still of the opinion that one would need to be a fully fledged greenseer to sit said throne effectively and wield such powers as we see Bran and Bloodraven do in the darkness of the caves. All the subterranean evidence below the castles show various similarities to BR's cave, ponds, rivers, tunnels, vaults etc... but now you mention it Jaime's dream is definitely the most vivid of them all, good call. I've not thought that particular angle through much but I can certainly see the logic in what you are proposing, and I'm all for hearing new ideas/theories, especially anything to do with my OP. And of course Jaime and Bran too. Thanks for an interesting read @foxberlin
  8. Agreed. The Faerie lore/Irish myth has the hollow hills/burial mounds/islands as the entrance into this underworld and while known as many different names, one such is Tir na nog, translated as 'Land of youth'. Visitors into this underworld loose all concept of time and in some cases will stay for what they think is a period of three years only to find they have been gone from their world for three-hundred years. Or sometimes the opposite is true and they stay for years only to return to their world at the very stage they left, not losing an hour. The gods will often appear to these visitors in a puff of mist and can be seen travelling through the real world in the form of wind, often a rustling of the leaves in this wind is a sign of their presence. If GRRM is playing with these concepts [which I think he is] then the caves/underworld and weirwood trees are perfect tools at his disposal. And on top of the trees not comprehending time as humans do, he straight out tells us in the text that 'the caves are timeless'. Again agreed. If the caves/caverns are the asoiaf version of the underworld then we have the extensive cave system below the Wall, and I like @Cgrav's idea of the Wall as a sort of figurative River Styx.
  9. I took my sweet time about it, but yes I am glad I got there in the end. Thanks for the heads up!
  10. Hey LM. That's an interesting observation, there is a flower in the real world called 'Blood flower' as seen here http://www.bhg.com/gardening/plant-dictionary/annual/blood-flower/ and many flowers that bloom red have some sort of blood symbolism attached to them through myth. In New Zealand there is a flower called 'The Blood of Jesus flower' seen here http://static.snopes.com/app/uploads/2017/04/blood-of-jesus.jpg. But I wouldn't say these are pale flowers, and of course none of these examples are seen to be growing from the wounds of the dead. The aboriginal Australians tell a myth where out of blood, flowers were created and these flowers do speak towards justice from a brutal massacre. A young maiden named Purlimil fled her tribe as she refused to marry a particularly violent man from her tribe named Turlta. In a fit of rage Turlta sought her out and found she had settled with a new tribe who loved her dearly. So angry was Turlta that he killed them all, including Purlimil. A year later he returned to the site only to find that there were no bones left just a field full of magnificent red flowers with black centres. [Again these are not pale flowers] This mythic archetype of blood in connection with flowers is still seen today, most famously in the poem 'In Flanders Fields', a reminder of the devastation and loss of the soldiers in WW1. So perhaps the Blood bloom flower is symbolic of the killing that took place there? Alternatively, flowers need nutrients to grow as well as water and those include nitrogen, potassium, iron etc... all of which can be found in blood. You can actually get plant feed called 'Bud Blood' which has all these nutrients included in the product. Less likely, but perhaps George is drawing on this fact? We have seen weirwood saplings in the series with no mention of Blood Blooms, but of course this is a fantasy novel involving trees that drink blood so perhaps you're right and these are the first shoots of weirwood trees. I tend to prefer the symbolic angle to these arguments. Not sure if that helps really but worth a research. Cheers LM.
  11. Hi @Crowfood's Daughter I am very late to the party but wanted to compliment you on this wonderful essay/thread, truly brilliant stuff. And also thank you for adding another hollow hill to the list, and a significant one at that it seems. My word search worked well in documenting the various hollow hills but failed to look at the bigger picture so to speak and Hammerhorn Keep paints an important picture indeed. The forum has been richer for your finds and has led to some fruitful discussion regards the brother vs brother archetype, really great work! I have some catching up to do but thought this thread deserves a bump on top of a well deserved thumbs up.
  12. Hi @Darry Man Thank you for reading and sharing your thoughts/ideas. I love the parallels you've drawn from Reek II and Jon V in ADWD, and of course the subterranean evidence you've found at both Moat Cailin and Mole's Town are perfect for this topic. And as you say, complete with living-dead inhabitants, good work. @ravenous reader had a look at some of the other evidence to be found at Mole's Town earlier in the thread. Here is the link, It is well worth a read. [The comments section is also worth a read] Nice catch with the abandoned holdfast at the God's Eye, thanks for that. In typical GRRM style there are bound to be more hidden or dotted around as @Crowfood's Daughter found in her excellent essay 'The Grey King fought Garth the Gardener' when discussing Hammerhorn Keep. I think you've probably read it but I will link that here too for anyone who hasn't, it's a truly brilliant read. Regards the weirwood trees always being positioned above these hollow hills enabling the roots to form a potential throne or giving access to the weirnet, I've found this isn't always the case. I have concentrated on the sites that do have this set up, but as Crowfood's Daughter has shown this doesn't seem to be a necessity. I think it's the darkness and magic of the caves that is the main interest for those greenseers of the past building their castles/holdfasts above these hollow hills. And this seems evident in Essos..... Nice!! A good example of what I'm talking about and one I hadn't looked at yet, again thanks for that. I have planned to study the subterranean in Essos for a while now but a forum hiatus put that on hold, this is just the sort of thing to look for. A couple of other good examples are the House of Black and White and the island of Leng. The former is built on a knoll [hill] with many underground levels and has parallels to BR's cave etc... While Leng has the same ancient set up as Westeros, with the underworld only accessible via the abandoned ruins to be found throughout the jungle, very much like our First Men of Westeros building on the hollow hills. This seems consistent and insinuates that the ancients of Planetos knew exactly what they were doing when building these structures with subterranean access. Lorath [especially the Boashii religion] Norvos, and Andalos are of interest amongst quite a few others. Thanks Darry Man, while on my forum hiatus I have still been lurking [the addiction is hard to kick] and I have enjoyed reading your thoughts.
  13. Hey @ravenous reader Awesome OP, great work as always. I love how nicely this works with the archetypal struggle of brother v brother in the series highlighted in @Crowfoods Daughter's essay, and your breakdown of how the mocking and counter-mocking plays into this and ultimately has a deciding factor in the poetic justice handed out is superb. Having studied the prologue with yourself and Evita previously in the Bran’s Growing Powers thread this proves just how much progress has been made on this subject within the forum in the last year or so, a real collaborative effort, well done to those involved [Crowfoods Daughter, LmL and of course yourself] Without being able to add a great deal of detail, I particularly liked how you have tied in the warlocks as greenseer parallels enacting their poetic revenge for the slights made against them. All the while attempting to keep their hands clean by sending the Sorrowful Men to do their dirty work, it all fits rather nicely. Considering the tale of Mathos Mallarawan’s wife and the fact this example is one of a fate almost worse than death [the humiliation of having to go naked] it reminded me of Jaime and his mocking of Bran when he offered him help atop the Broken Tower. His cruel offer for Bran to ‘’Take my hand’’ only to push him to his [apparent] death certainly came back to haunt Jaime as more poetic justice is ‘handed’ out via him losing his sword hand, again a fate almost worse than death for the individual. Remembering a chat I had with Evita a while back there some other possibilities. In ADWD Hosteen Frey underestimates the cold of the northern winter and mocks the northmen’s respect for such climates. He also pays a high price….. Another character to suffer similar poetic justice is Weese, whose actions and threats towards Arya at Harrenhal come to fruition in his death….. After Jaqen had killed Weese, his spotted dog had ravaged his throat and face ripping mouthfuls of flesh from the dead man’s face in what seems to be more of this poetic revenge. Theon occasionally muses that ‘the old gods are listening’ and fears the words of those who mock them, and he is not alone. Lord Locke has similar thoughts and decides that in facing their wroth, they are all cursed. Great stuff RR, I shall return.
  14. Thank you. The 'long delirious, burning blue' had me thinking of you and @Pain killer Jane regards the 'calling of the bloody blue'. And 'slipping' the bonds of earth to dance in the skies reminded me of Bran. I love this poem. Thank you for the link and Yeats poem as well, that's beautiful.
  15. Hey everyone. There has been much discussion regards the mythological inspirations behind the Green men/greenseers in the series, including the Arthurian tale of Sir Gawain and the Green Knight, amongst others. I stumbled across this beautiful poem when watching a documentary on Sir Gawain's journey, and thought it would fit right in here. A poem for Sir Gawain by Simon Armitage Time now to rise, to strike out with a clenched heart And no map bar the view from the peak Where the west wind pummels your cheeks, Leads with its granite fists. Days of rain, rain that permeates the bone Personal rain, persecuting the soul. Days when the promised lake Is a dishwater pond Wrung from a grey cloud onto a dead hill. Eat what the rook or crow leaves on its plate, Bed down where even the fox won't sleep. 'Til the wain narrows and halts And you wait in armour or anorak under the ridge With a campfire tan and hedgerow hair And a god looks down, silent Stoney faced, bearded with living moss This is the place. The journey over and the story told, The yarn at the end of its long green thread. Speak now, for all that you're worth, As the blade swoons in judgement Over your pretty head.