Zorn Gottes Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 I prefer Sansa, I find her character much more compelling than Arya. I agree with those who said that Arya is a bit cliche. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Persicaria Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 I liked Arya more in the beginning, but Sansa has grown on me. It's an interesting trend Butterbumps. I notice a lot of people focus on GOT Sansa and have entirely dismissed her development. She is put in a situation where she is forced to be passive, and passive characters are viewed as weak. However, seeing inside her head I don't think of her as weak, and I see a great amount of strength of character. I think it's also the fact that in a typical novel she would have remained the dumb, pretty, clueless, bitch, and so people treat her accordingly. Meanwhile in the modern world we glorify the female badass warrior Arya, so of curse we love her storyline. However, each character is more than some 2d cliché and I love them all the more for it. I like the fact that both girls are two very different people, and I hope that they will reunite and be sisters, even just for a brief time. I think my head would explode from the awesomeness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbstark Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 I started out liking Arya better than Sansa. Now it's Sansa.But the're both still in my top 5 favorites. I think it's silly when fans pin the two against each other.They're two faces of the same coin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen‍‍‍‍‍‍ Alysanne‍‍™ Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 Both, on rereads though I'm loving Arya alot now :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butterbumps! Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 I wasn't replying to you. Well, I know that was in response to me, but I didn't understand what point you were making either. I wasn't denying the existence of "Love Sansa, hate Arya" representatives in some objective sense. Here, at Weteros.org, in this thread that's actually conducting the poll, I was pointing out the trend of "love Arya, hate Sansa" and the absence of the reverse condition. I don't know what that has to do with live journal or tumblr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARYa_Nym Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Well, I know that was in response to me, but I didn't understand what point you were making either. I wasn't denying the existence of "Love Sansa, hate Arya" representatives in some objective sense. Here, at Weteros.org, in this thread that's actually conducting the poll, I was pointing out the trend of "love Arya, hate Sansa" and the absence of the reverse condition. I don't know what that has to do with live journal or tumblr. Well, the forum likes to overanalyze everything. It's as simple as I said it. I moreso see them over there than on here not that they don't exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winter's Knight Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 I wasn't replying to you. But I was replying to you? What point were you trying to make with that "LJ and tumblr" jibe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watch for Witches Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 I want to say that I like Arya better, but I'm always secretly looking forward to Sansa's chapters.I just wish Sansa was as badass as Arya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darksnider05 Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 I want to say that I like Arya better, but I'm always secretly looking forward to Sansa's chapters. I just wish Sansa was as badass as Arya. Than she wouldn't be Sansa at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alayne's Shadow. Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Sansa, and It's not even close. Arya is on my top five, mind you, but I just can't relate to her the same way I do regarding Sansa. A poster before said she/he couldn't relate to Sansa, but could to Arya, and that's exactly how I feel on reverse. I adore Arya's arc, but Sansa's arc speaks to me. Also, In general, I find Sansa's arc more interesting. There were moments I could feel so much for Arya, (Post-Red Wedding chapter), but I always found her arc less compelling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butterbumps! Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Well, the forum likes to overanalyze everything. It's as simple as I said it. I moreso see them over there than on here not that they don't exist. Ok, here's the thing. This thread is a poll. Rendering it a kind of statistical exercise. I'm really not sure what part of my post you are thinking was over-analytical. The fact that I took note of a trend in a thread that's basically a statistical exercise, despite the fact that I didn't make any sort of claim that this is ubiquitous or claim any broader external validity of that data to all fanbases or even the broader pages of westeros.org? I'm still not quite following how noting that "love Sansa, hate Arya" exists in live journal and tumblr is anything but a non sequitor given that I never claimed its non-existence in some objective universal sense. I'm sure there are fan pages out there dedicated to Gregor Clegane sexual fetishes too, but I'd hardly count them in a poll canvasing Westeros.org opinion on hottest males. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladytiger Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Love them both to pieces, but Sansa narrowly wins this contest for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARYa_Nym Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Ok, here's the thing. This thread is a poll. Rendering it a kind of statistical exercise. I'm really not sure what part of my post you are thinking was over-analytical. The fact that I took note of a trend in a thread that's basically a statistical exercise, despite the fact that I didn't make any sort of claim that this is ubiquitous or claim any broader external validity of that data to all fanbases or even the broader pages of westeros.org? I'm still not quite following how noting that "love Sansa, hate Arya" exists in live journal and tumblr is anything but a non sequitor given that I never claimed its non-existence in some objective universal sense. I'm sure there are fan pages out there dedicated to Gregor Clegane sexual fetishes too, but I'd hardly count them in a poll canvasing Westeros.org opinion on hottest males. I meant seeing shit that isn't there and making something out of nothing. It's not that serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloud Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Arya. She's the only Stark I can stand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Smith Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 For me it used to be Arya, but I've been going through the Pawn to Player Sansa Reread threads, and I think now i'm converted. SANSA FOR QUEEN!!! :commie: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Cygne Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Sansa, but I like Arya, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Rahvin Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Im sorry I just cant get over the fact that Sansa betrayed her father. So for me its got to be Arya... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butterbumps! Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 I meant seeing shit that isn't there and making something out of nothing. It's not that serious. Well, first of all, the fact that there's-- in reality-- a bunch of posts in here expressing pretty severe dislike of Sansa with an Arya preference and none of the reverse condition isn't an observation based in reality? What exactly are you having a problem with? That this was pointed out and you happen to be in the camp of "love Arya, hate Sansa" as per your posts? What does it matter? No one, least of all me, has made any character judgments on you or anyone else who felt that way. It's just an interesting trend and I'm sort of curious about that divergence in opinion. You can love Arya, hate Sansa all you want without judgment-- there's nothing wrong with it. But please don't tell me that making an observation about this in a polling thread where it was abundantly clear is seeing something that's not there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARYa_Nym Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Well, first of all, the fact that there's-- in reality-- a bunch of posts in here expressing pretty severe dislike of Sansa with an Arya preference and none of the reverse condition isn't an observation based in reality? What exactly are you having a problem with? That this was pointed out and you happen to be in the camp of "love Arya, hate Sansa" as per your posts? What does it matter? No one, least of all me, has made any character judgments on you or anyone else who felt that way. It's just an interesting trend and I'm sort of curious about that divergence in opinion. You can love Arya, hate Sansa all you want without judgment-- there's nothing wrong with it. But please don't tell me that making an observation about this in a polling thread where it was abundantly clear is seeing something that's not there. Well, first of all, the fact that there's-- in reality-- a bunch of posts in here expressing pretty severe dislike of Sansa with an Arya preference and none of the reverse condition isn't an observation based in reality? What exactly are you having a problem with? That this was pointed out and you happen to be in the camp of "love Arya, hate Sansa" as per your posts? What does it matter? No one, least of all me, has made any character judgments on you or anyone else who felt that way. It's just an interesting trend and I'm sort of curious about that divergence in opinion. You can love Arya, hate Sansa all you want without judgment-- there's nothing wrong with it. But please don't tell me that making an observation about this in a polling thread where it was abundantly clear is seeing something that's not there. You're proving my point. I already lost interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winter's Knight Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 You're proving my point. I already lost interest. Jesus aren't you the worst sort of troll. You're coming off a lot like the Mean Princess you so often accuse Sansa of being. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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