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North Korea: Empire of the Sun


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That's exactly my point - if everyone votes no, they can't punish everyone. If they send everyone to labour camps, who's gonna run their capital? Heck, who's gonna guard the labour camps? Even a tyrannical government is reliant on its population. If they lock them all away or murder them, all they are left with is an empty stretch of land that they call theirs, but would be unable to maintain.

I guess for everyone to vote "no" there would need to be organisation and the natural reaction of government would be to discover and punish the instigators.

Given what we know of North Korea, it doesn't sound like (even with the smuggled in cell phones) the population really has the ability to mobilize with mass action like that. Perhaps one town or small area could and I think something limited in scope like that would probably lead to purges. But if your hypothetical situation happened, I think the leaders (or anyone if they can't find the real leaders they can still find someone to blame) would be punished and then maybe it's blamed on those people conspiring with the evil capitalist west or whatever and leading the people astray.

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Given what we know of North Korea, it doesn't sound like (even with the smuggled in cell phones) the population really has the ability to mobilize with mass action like that. Perhaps one town or small area could and I think something limited in scope like that would probably lead to purges. But if your hypothetical situation happened, I think the leaders (or anyone if they can't find the real leaders they can still find someone to blame) would be punished and then maybe it's blamed on those people conspiring with the evil capitalist west or whatever and leading the people astray.

Or ... they could just report that everyone voted "yes", except for one person. And everyone will assume everyone else betrayed him and he was the only one, who voted "no", despite the entire nation agreeing to do it. And such paranoia would blossom from all of this that nobody would think of moving against the Party for another generation :)

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Or ... they could just report that everyone voted "yes", except for one person. And everyone will assume everyone else betrayed him and he was the only one, who voted "no", despite the entire nation agreeing to do it. And such paranoia would blossom from all of this that nobody would think of moving against the Party for another generation :)

Do you think Kim Jong-un (or a lackey) is devious enough to come up with that?

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Not at all. I'm just curious what the theoretical underpinnings of the system are, with the yes/no stuff. If North Korea were a functioning democracy (and its official constitution pretends it is), how would that even work?

As I understand it, it's not enough to vote yes/no. No voters have to enter a special booth without privacy and write an alternative candidate's name in the ballot. Theoretically, if everyone voted no then the candidate with the highest number of alternative votes would become the representative.

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Yeah WWN started this story about a month ago it's probably the best satirical site that i have seen but if you're not Irish you won't get most of the stories. Here's one of their recent ones it's to do with the report of the school teacher who threatened his students with Game Of Thrones spoilers so it's quite appropriate for this site http://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2014/03/25/game-of-thrones-spoiler-results-in-24-deaths/

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So AHK the hair story is bullshit, started by this WWN? Hard to believe it got picked up by the BBC.

What's the hair story? I was referring to the original man on the sun story which i suppose i should have clarified this being the original article http://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2014/01/21/north-korea-lands-first-ever-man-on-the-sun-confirms-central-news-agency/%C2'>

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Weird it only seemed to post part of what i was saying anyway here's the link to the original article http://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2014/01/21/north-korea-lands-first-ever-man-on-the-sun-confirms-central-news-agency/ . I should probably apologize for not thoroughly reading all previous posts perhaps the thread had moved on from the original point


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What's the hair story? I was referring to the original man on the sun story which i suppose i should have clarified this being the original article

Right, I see. I linked to an article about state sanctioned haircuts. Then you posted a link saying the story was bollocks as originated from them. I'm disappointed the man on the sun thing isn't true, it seems like the perfect blend of showing off and absurd claims.

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Right, I see. I linked to an article about state sanctioned haircuts. Then you posted a link saying the story was bollocks as originated from them. I'm disappointed the man on the sun thing isn't true, it seems like the perfect blend of showing off and absurd claims.

I would of believed it too apart from the fact that everything WWN reports is satire mind you who knows North Korea may have got some ideas from the article

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So apparently the North Korean government is hyper-racist, which isn't surprising really, but also mostly believes in evolution, which is a bit of shocker.





In a recently published and lengthy racist screed, North Korea calls President Obama a “clown,” a “dirty fellow” and somebody who “does not even have the basic appearances of a human being.”


Propriety has never been a part of North Korean rhetoric, but rarely has Pyongyang so ferociously — and personally — attacked a U.S. leader, in this case pulling language right out of the American 1850s. The attack seems unabashed, except for one thing: Unlike most articles published by the North’s state-run news agency, this one wasn’t translated into English.


“He is a crossbreed with unclear blood,” the North says.


And later: Obama “still has the figure of monkey while the human race has evolved through millions of years.”




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Such views of dark-skinned are not confined to North Korea.

No, but regimes who put the socialist tag on themselves at least usually try to officially play themselves off as anti-racist as well.

But DPRK is DPRK, of course.

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