Tixu Oty Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 I find it interesting how Martin goes and says that everybody is interpreting Melisandre wrongly, yet very few bother to change their view of her. I loved her chapter for that reason. When you read it and she's not ranting about burning people you wait for the catch.. and it doesn't come! Then the chapter's over and you realize she's just misunderstood. Very ironic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faint Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 I loved her chapter for that reason. When you read it and she's not ranting about burning people you wait for the catch.. and it doesn't come! Then the chapter's over and you realize she's just misunderstood. Very ironic. Many readers remain incapable of shaking their first impression of her even after having read that chapter. Her concern for the safety of Davos' son, for example, is conceived in some quarters as an elaborate form of blackmail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beric175 Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 Anyone else thought that showing us her naked body whilst she was talking about tricks and fooling people could be a hint as to her glamour that keeps her appearance young and beautiful via magic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trgryn-strk-lnstr-mrtell Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 Anyone else thought that showing us her naked body whilst she was talking about tricks and fooling people could be a hint as to her glamour that keeps her appearance young and beautiful via magic? lol! i think most were either :drool: or :uhoh: during that scene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jandslegate Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 I think Mel is setting up Selyse. She knows what Stannis would do if someone/anyone tried to sacrifice his daughter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tixu Oty Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Many readers remain incapable of shaking their first impression of her even after having read that chapter. Her concern for the safety of Davos' son, for example, is conceived in some quarters as an elaborate form of blackmail. Oh well :) Crackpots gotta crackpot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Varys Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 As anyone already suggested that Stannis may offer Shireen as wife to Jon Snow when he offers him to legitimize him as Jon Stark? In the book, he offers him to take Val as wife. She does not seem to be in the show, at least not this season, so Stannis' offer could be to legitimize Jon as Lord Stark and making him Prince Consort to his daughter and heir... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmartiesCereal Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 I just wanted to chime in about something I noticed the show never fully mentions the need for "king's blood" without Melisande correcting Stannis with "your blood". (if it does please correct me) But I started thinking about that and now have this lingering notion that since there probably won't be any mention of Mance's son that it will switch to Sam and Gilly take Shireen with them? Perhaps that is out there, but is it impossible that D&D would make that change? Especially since they added the Melisandre bath scene to push for Shireen being taken to the wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoOneDire Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 I don't know why but I think Mel is pulling a bait and switch with Shireen and Selyese. Mel knows Selyese is a crazy lady and it would be nice if Stanis had the option of re-marring a new house to help rebuild his kingdom. They seem to like marriage packs. Shireen could use a kind mother that wont let her burn and Stanis does love his daughter, I don't think he could burn her. Far fetched but maybe. Is Shireen the last of the Bratheons, other then Roberts bastards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juanml82 Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 Is Shireen the last of the Bratheons, other then Roberts bastards? Yes. If she dies, House Baratheon dies with her. Well, Stannis could have other legitimate children, but I doubt he would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talking Hodor Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Oh yeah, Melisandre is out for Shireen's heathen blood. I, uh, didn't notice the missing ruby. Must have been looking elsewhere the entire time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talking Hodor Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Yes. If she dies, House Baratheon dies with her. Well, Stannis could have other legitimate children, but I doubt he would. He's a king. He could legitimize any number of "Baratheons." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juanml82 Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 He's a king. He could legitimize any number of "Baratheons." Ah, but if he legitimizes any of Robert's bastards and that bastard gets support independently of Stannis, that bastard will say his claim, as of Robert Baratheon, surpasses Stannis' claim as brother of Robert Baratheon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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