Reasons Westeros could turn on Dany?

[chrisdaw]

Let's say Dany arrives in Westeros and comes to be known by the small folk as the mad queen, truly her father's daughter. What are some reasons Westeros could turn on her? Here's what I have.

1. Kinslaying/Usurping her brother's crown. If Aegon emerges as king and starts putting the kingdom back together the smallfolk could turn on her if she takes up arms against him.
   
2. Writing Aegon out of history, as was done to Rhaenyra by whatever number Aegon that was. Should Dany defeat Aegon and should she believe him to be a fraud she may attempt to have him written out of history. Or/and maybe Robert too, it would be entertaining if Robert were to be remembered as a great king by the smallfolk.
   
3. Unleashing the Dothraki on Westeros. Should Dany bring the Dothraki, a massive foreign force for which pillaging and raping are the norms, it would not likely be well received.
   
4. Religious reasons. Should Benerro, the Fiery Hand or other forces of the Red God join with Dany the smallfolk fresh with new religious fervour for the Seven, and the Faith itself, may not take it well.
   
5. Sentencing Jaime to death. Should she have Jaime brought before her, and should he explain why he killed Aerys and it become public knowledge the people of KL knowing how Jaime saved them might take issue with Dany if she were to still sentence him to death.
   
6. Bringer of disease, Greyscale or other. Jon Con may cause an outbreak, and it may only be coming to light and really taking hold at a time that coincides with Dany's arrival. Unjustly she may cop the blame, or she may otherwise bring disease with her army.
   
7. General perceived mistreatment of people, stripping of lands not loyal to the Targs, raising new lords, misplacing old, imprisoning Tommen or the like.
   

Any other suggestions?

[Drake Heath]

I doubt Jon Con would cause an outbreak, Shireen has grayscale and isn't causing any pandimics.

Unless he has some super-infectious version.

Dany's army, depending on if it's the Dothraki or that peasant horde that follows her, will cause some problems in Westeros.

Especially if she thinks she can give the Dothraki land or think they'll just leave once she becomes Queen.

And if she brings the peasant horde of freed slaves, well, that's just mobile disease and poverty.

[Mulled Wino]

Add Unsullied to the list. Everyone knows them as slave soldiers and slavery isn't all that well loved in Westeros.

Her whole crew pretty much doesn't follow the largest religion in Westeros either, not just Red priests.

[chrisdaw]

She's also a woman, people don't tend to like that in their rulers in Westeros. Especially if she takes a lover or lovers, or even worse marries a hated man like say Euron.

[Mrs_Darcy]

Do not forget the Ironborn, who will probably bring Dany back to Westeros. Since they have recently turned to slavers (smallfolk of the Shield Islands) that will add some additional hatred from the Westerosi.

[Batman]

If she marries Aegon, I doubt the High Septon would support a marriage thats against the Seven.

[mb2518]

Invading Westeros with a foreign born army and causing destruction with dragons isn't enough?

[MaesterSamwell]

I don't mean to nitpick, but in your first point in the OP, you mention Dany would be killing her brother. if Aegon is not fAegon then he would be her nephew. Minor since it would still be kinslaying.

Also, her dragons at this point are growing more and more uncontrollable. Mereen's people already are turning on her because of this. If one of her dragons was to scorch the city (Dany's vission of the dragon shadow over KL) or even set off some secret wildfire stash, they would turn on her quickly.

I agree with all the points in the OP but #5. There is no love for Jamie among the common folk (except for some lovestruck ladies).

[RoamingRonin]

1. Unpopular company: She will arrive with the Dothraki (considered savages), former slaves from all corners of the Earth, Tyrion the Imp, the Ironborn, Jorah the Exile and sellsword companies. Ser Barristan will most likely be dead. This isn't a very honorable group.

2: Her "reputation" proceeds her: it's said she lies, sleeps with horses, feeds children to her dragons, etc. Half-truths, exaggerations and outright lies will reach Westeros before she does.

Mace Tyrell says she's as mad as her father with no evidence to back this up (and he supported her father!).

Sample chapter spoilers:

Arianne thinks Dany let Viserys die as if it was Dany's fault. Arianne also thought her father and brother were conspiring to take her birthright based on half a letter so she's not every bright. But Arianne the power to declare war now so she's dumb

and powerful... and on her way to Aegon.

The Golden Company thinks she's just in Meereen twirling her hair instead of joining them.

Arianne will most likely blame her Quentyn.

3: Dragons: Not much more to say than that.

4: She has a lot to do before she gets to Westeros: We know from her vision in the House of the Undying she will meet the Dothraki crones again, who knows what she will do on the way to Westeros? Maybe some fire? Maybe a little blood?

I don't think she's going to have a warm welcome when she gets to Westeros but it doesn't matter because 90% of the people in Westeros are evil people and they gotta die.

. . .

#5: No one cares about Jaime or the Lannisters except maybe Brienne.

#6: JonCon is already in Westeros and is already associated with Aegon's army. She could bring the Pale Mare but the bloody flux is already known in Westeros (an outbreak occurred in King's Landing in Book 2).

#7: This would only happen if she won the Iron Throne. If she doesn't go crazy with how she redistributes lands and titles, it won't be a problem. Tywin and his council did it in Book 3 after Stannis lost the Blackwater. That's just how things goes.

[Drake Heath]

Who would she give the lands to? The Dothraki? Or randomly small houses who join her a the last minute?

None of those would inspire much loyalty in their new vassals and subjects, especially the Dothraki, that'd be like Tyrion giving land to the mountain clans.

[mediterraneo]

Depending on how Sansa and Aegon solve their things, even just starting the war again in a pacified kingdom could gather her the people's and the noble's enimity.
A variant could be that she comes in a moment of great "national" effort to defend the Winter's rampage from the North.
"Just coming" is good enough to not be welcome, even for people not coming to rule you, in most big enough population movements, in the past or in the present.

[Jon's Queen Consort]

Invading Westeros with a foreign born army and causing destruction with dragons isn't enough?

:agree: She wants to invade Westeros with an army of barbarian savages and with 2 WMD. Why the people should like her since she wants, according to herself, to bring fire and blood upon Westeros?

[Bright Blue Eyes]

• Bringing foreigners

Being a woman

Being a heathen

Being a foreigner

Letting Viserys be killed by her husband

Bringing heathens

Dragons

Slaves

Oathbreaking

Threatening envoys

Bringing hungry people onto a starving continent

Fucking Daario

Being married to a slaver

Quentyn being dead

Bringing Tyrion

Relying on lowborn scum

Usurper's dogs

The Pale Mare

Ironborn

Killing her husband

Abandoning Astapor

Opposing Aegon

Threatening the achieved peace

Dothraki

Breaking guestright

...

Honestly, there are so many, many reasons, it's pretty much a given.

[Theon {HUNGRY WOLF} Stark]

If she utters Usurper's Dog when talking about Ned, there goes her chance of any support from North, and possibly Riverlands, down the drain.

[joluoto2]

- Reasons no one in Westeros will like Dany, and everyone would wish they could just kill her: too many to count

-Reasons they will crawl to her feet and kiss them: dragons

On the other hand if she had lost one or two of her dragons, and someone in Westeros were controlling them everything would change (it's heavily implied you can only control one adult dragon, the one you ride. Which mean Viserion and Rhaegal becomes Wild Cards (George pun intended)).

[The_Leech_Lord]

- Reasons no one in Westeros will like Dany, and everyone would wish they could just kill her: too many to count

-Reasons they will crawl to her feet and kiss them: dragons

On the other hand if she had lost one or two of her dragons, and someone in Westeros were controlling them everything would change (it's heavily implied you can only control one adult dragon, the one you ride. Which mean Viserion and Rhaegal becomes Wild Cards (George pun intended)).

Seriously. they are miniscule dragons compared to Balerion Vhagar and Meraxes

Also I dont think the Westerosi will be so impressed by these small dragons- they were the first time, because nobody had seen dragons for ages and ages.

Maesters have now documented perfectly well how dragons can be killed

[Northbound2.0]

If she utters Usurper's Dog when talking about Ned, there goes her chance of any support from North, and possibly Riverlands, down the drain.

Or the Vale. Keep in mind, Ned spent a good portion of his life there.

[Ferocious Veldt Roarer]

If she utters Usurper's Dog when talking about Ned, there goes her chance of any support from North, and possibly Riverlands, down the drain.

Dunno. There's a dude who considers it necessary to put "Ned Stark was no friend of mine" into every conversation he has, and still managed to gather some swords in the North.

[Bright Blue Eyes]

Dunno. There's a dude who considers it necessary to put "Ned Stark was no friend of mine" into every conversation he has, and still managed to gather some swords in the North.

He did not talk Ned down though. No (personal) friend, but respected and honorable. And with the support of Ned Stark's son of course.

[Theon {HUNGRY WOLF} Stark]

Dunno. There's a dude who considers it necessary to put "Ned Stark was no friend of mine" into every conversation he has, and still managed to gather some swords in the North.

He only said Ned was not his friend. He didnt call Ned a Dog. And he was being helped by only living son of The Ned.

Do you think if Stannis had called Ned Dog, Jon would have helped him? I dont.