Batbob45 Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Smart characters don't go to Westeros weddings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greymoon Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Arya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormland's Fury Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Smart characters don't go to Westeros weddings The Blackfish knows what's up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Eunuch Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 1) Varys, Littlefinger.2) Olenna, Tywin.3) Tyrion, Doran. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaegar I Targaryen Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Rhaegar Targaryen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady of Dragonstone Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Rhaegar Targaryen :bowdown: Littlefinger or Tyrion. For me, "raw intellect" does not mean street smarts so Varys and Arya are not an option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordQorgyle Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Doran Nymeros Martell and Tyrion Lannister Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Eunuch Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Littlefinger or Tyrion. For me, "raw intellect" does not mean street smarts so Varys and Arya are not an option. How is Varys only "street smart"? He has the best spy network of the known world, he has been in the shadows of kings for decades (succeeding to survive all of them) and his plans take place on two continents. He even have at least 3 potential kings under his sleeves (Dany, Aegon, Gendry)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nictarion Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Smart characters don't go to Westeros weddingsUnless your Olenna and your planning of giving the groom something special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordQorgyle Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 How is Gendry under his sleeve?And most probably with Dany he will end up beying Dragon's food Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormland's Fury Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 How is Gendry under his sleeve? And most probably with Dany he will end up beying Dragon's food For that matter how is Dany even under his sleeve? He has no control over her and the people who she does listen too are not Varys' men/women. Her being in the Dothraki Sea doesn't help things either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Tyrell Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 We can narrow it down to a few:TyrionLittlefingerTywinAemonVarysLuwynOlennaSam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordQorgyle Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 For that matter how is Dany even under his sleeve? He has no control over her and the people who she does listen too are not Varys' men/women. Her being in the Dothraki Sea doesn't help things either. Completely agree the only joker that Varys has is Aegon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Tyrell Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 I could say Tyrion or Doran but I choose Catelyn.I think she is clever,cunning,logic without having been well educated and even when she starts being depressive for the deaths in her family she sais right things.I don't see anything smart Cat did in the novels. She was completely played by LF. Even when LF's story really didn't make any sense about the dagger, she's still dumb enough to believe him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carey Snow Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Missandei strikes me as very smart and perceptive. Aemon, The Reader, Lady Olenna, Little Finger, Varys, Roose, Tywin, Tyrion, Luwin, Sam and Hoster Blackwood seem very intelligent in different ways. Davos is the champion in the common sense department. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Tyrell Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Yeah Catelyn was so smart she threw a temper tantrum that started the war of the 5 kings that directly caused the destruction of her family. No Catelyn was a dumb hothead just like her father and brother. If I had to rank her I would say she is one of the least intelligent people in the series. I can cite other examples of her stupidity if you likeSeriously, name one action she did that wasn't a primarily based on emotion and not reason. I'm really thinking people are trolling, since the Tullys as a whole are a stupid lot. I think only the Greyjoys beat them as far as a major house is concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Eunuch Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 For that matter how is Dany even under his sleeve? He has no control over her and the people who she does listen too are not Varys' men/women. Her being in the Dothraki Sea doesn't help things either. I didn't say he has control over her, but he helped her many times and supports her. Nobody knows if Dany or Aegon will sit on the Iron Throne, but I'm quite sure that either way, Varys would be on their council. As for Gendry, Varys saved his life by sending him to the Wall. If his Targaryen restoration should fail, Gendry would be a good back up plan as the older son of Robert Baratheon... But that's speculation, yes, I was just pointed out that Varys had a certain skill to have many cards up his sleeves... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormland's Fury Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 I didn't say he has control over her, but he helped her many times and supports her. Nobody knows if Dany or Aegon will sit on the Iron Throne, but I'm quite sure that either way, Varys would be on their council. As for Gendry, Varys saved his life by sending him to the Wall. If his Targaryen restoration should fail, Gendry would be a good back up plan as the older son of Robert Baratheon... But that's speculation, yes, I was just pointed out that Varys had a certain skill to have many cards up his sleeves... But she doesn't know that and she grew certainly more powerful than he could have anticipated. All she knows that he was present when Tywin sacked the city and that he served under Robert. If anything Viserys might have been his creature but not Dany. Gendry is completely off the radar though for most people. He has an ability to put a lot of cards up his sleeves, but he just as quickly loses them. Ageon on the other side might be a big one if played well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Witch Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Catelyn is smart, one of the smartest characters I believe. We just met her at the worst time of her life. When she was betrayed and lied to. She later suffered depression, what can explain some over-emotional choices she made. We all know some of her decisions weren't the best for her family, but I also believe the author used her as a conduit for giving reasons to start the war. Aside the controversial actions she took, she often strikes as a rational and pragmatic woman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batbob45 Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Willas Tyrell- His own Grandmother(who hobbies are to insult almost everybody even her own son) thinks high of him. Willas is consider a great animal trainer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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