Trigger Warning Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 You CAN'T CUT PLATE just like you are saying. Actually, a hammer is a hundred times better if you're gonna fight against someone with plate. Although I think Arthur would win (he would behead him easily, Robert seems like the kind of guy who doesn't watch his defense), he could destroy Arthur with just one blow, something Arthur wouldn't be able to.With a gorget and great helm I doubt it, I think Bobby B would win this through grappling and hooking with his hammer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twenty of House Goodmen Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 Arthur Dayne probably is the more skilled fighter, but too many people are overrating him and underrating Robert(as well as Rhaegar). Realistically, Robert would win. He's bigger, stronger, and has a far better weapon suited for taking out men in armor. But since this is a fantasy, Arthur would win.That said, Robert would most definitely not get destroyed by Arthur as some people are saying. Robert was far more experienced than Arthur. He has the second best combat feats in the entire series, only behind Barristan. He is not slow or unskilled, as proven in his fight against Jon Connington. Robert actually does have a chance to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordQorgyle Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 I love people that don't know what they are saying..Really Robert more experienced than Arthur?gosh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boarsbane Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 I love people that don't know what they are saying..Really Robert more experienced than Arthur?gosh By the time Robert's Rebellion has ended they would be about the same and I would give Robert the edge since he was fighting actual soldiers, if you add in the Greyjoy Rebellion then Robert almost certainly has more. Dayne fought outlaws, had no role at all in Robert's Rebellion, and might of fought in the War of the Ninepenny Kings, I'm not sure how the timeline adds up but I don't remember any mention of him, only Barristan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordQorgyle Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 But a possible fight between them would be in RR and by that time Arthur is more experienced Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boarsbane Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 But a possible fight between them would be in RR and by that time Arthur is more experienced Depends if Dayne is like Rhaegar and just shows up at the Trident, by then Robert has fought in 6 or so battles, and won 5 of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trigger Warning Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 By the time Robert's Rebellion has ended they would be about the same and I would give Robert the edge since he was fighting actual soldiers, if you add in the Greyjoy Rebellion then Robert almost certainly has more. Dayne fought outlaws, had no role at all in Robert's Rebellion, and might of fought in the War of the Ninepenny Kings, I'm not sure how the timeline adds up but I don't remember any mention of him, only Barristan.Bob's also a fan of the melee, we don't know how much experience he may have gained in tournaments in his 20 years leading up to the rebellion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-Ro Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 But a possible fight between them would be in RR and by that time Arthur is more experiencedGo through and list every battle dayne has fought in, then go through and list every battle Robert fought in during the rebellion. Who really has the experience? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryanfury Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 I love people that don't know what they are saying..Really Robert more experienced than Arthur?gosh From what we know, Dayne participated in the battle with the Kingswood Brotherhood. That's the extent of his actual military experience we know. Robert has fought what, 10 times as many battles? Even by the time they would have met in combat at the Trident Robert has fought in five major battles and come out tops of 4 of them, and survived the other. And if you're just talking about combat training, what do you think Robert spent most of his time doing when he wasn't banging bitches and getting money? Smashing teeth for fun. I think Robert certainly was more experienced* than Dayne in actual combat. Not to mention Robert loved melees at tournies, which is closer to real combat than jousting, which was Daynes forte comparatively *I'm not equating experience to skill or talent, but actual battles fought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingelheim Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 Both Arthur and Robert were probably TOP mele fighters. I'm pretty sure Arthur loved torunaments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-Ro Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 From what we know, Dayne participated in the battle with the Kingswood Brotherhood. That's the extent of his actual military experience we know. Robert has fought what, 10 times as many battles? Even by the time they would have met in combat at the Trident Robert has fought in five major battles and come out tops of 4 of them, and survived the other. And if you're just talking about combat training, what do you think Robert spent most of his time doing when he wasn't banging bitches and getting money? Smashing teeth for fun. I think Robert certainly was more experienced than Dayne in actual combat.He definitely WAS more experienced, that much is fact. Robert has stormed a castle in which he was FIRST over the walls(gulltown) fought three pitched battles in one day, fought the vanguard of the reach, and then emerged from a brothel in the batttle of the bells and almost killed jon con. Dayne has nothing on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boarsbane Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 It is weird for someone so famed as Arthur to have only fought in one war, does having a fancy sword and killing one great warrior really all it takes to make you that much of a legend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryanfury Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 It is weird for someone so famed as Arthur to have only fought in one war, does having a fancy sword and killing one great warrior really all it takes to make you that much of a legend? According to what we know so far, yes. Barristan makes no mention of Dayne being in the War of the Ninepenny Kings, and other than the Kingswood Brotherhood and the Duskendale Defiance there's nothing major that happened. Maybe Dayne put down a rebellion in Dorne that we don't know about, or maybe took out some other rebel dude in a low key type thing before becoming KG, but we don't know. What we're told is he's a great swordsman, participates in tournies, and fought the Smiling Knight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-Ro Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 It is weird for someone so famed as Arthur to have only fought in one war, does having a fancy sword and killing one great warrior really all it takes to make you that much of a legend?What makes the smallfolk wetter, a guy with a magic sword that helps the commoners and does his duty, or a lush that whores around and uses a warhammer? As far as I am concerned Robert is the best warrior in the series, and has the highest chances of beating any given opponent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingelheim Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 What makes the smallfolk wetter, a guy with a magic sword that helps the commoners and does his duty, or a lush that whores around and uses a warhammer?As far as I am concerned Robert is the best warrior in the series, and has the highest chances of beating any given opponent. Wow wow E-Ro...although I agree with 99% of yous posts, and especially the "warfare" ones, don't you think that statement is a little...exaggerated? Robert, at his prime, is a 2 m (6'6 ft) and 100kg (220 pounds) guy with an extraordinary physical form and a dangerous hammer...but he strikes me as the kind of warrior who doesn't watch his back. Yes, if anyone (Arthur, Selmy, etc) gets smashed by his hammer, he's done. But I'm pretty sure there are faster fighters out there who could just made him a version of the Mountain... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-Ro Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 Wow wow E-Ro...although I agree with 99% of yous posts, and especially the "warfare" ones, don't you think that statement is a little...exaggerated? Robert, at his prime, is a 2 m (6'6 ft) and 100kg (220 pounds) guy with an extraordinary physical form and a dangerous hammer...but he strikes me as the kind of warrior who doesn't watch his back. Yes, if anyone (Arthur, Selmy, etc) gets smashed by his hammer, he's done. But I'm pretty sure there are faster fighters out there who could just made him a version of the Mountain...Isn't this a 1v1 scenario tho? Why would he need to watch his back? If someone tried to circle around him in a 1v1 he would just... turn around? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PirateVergo Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 Dayne fought outlaws The smiling knight was a great fighter, being an outlaw doesn't make you weak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boarsbane Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 The smiling knight was a great fighter, being an outlaw doesn't make you weak. No but as we see they try to avoid fighting pitched battles, are probably poorly armed(comparatively), and a squire, albeit a very skilled one, was able to hold off the Smiling Knight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oopeed Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 an innate swordsman against a dude with an enormous warhammer... If both on their prime I will go for Robert. He isn't just very strong, he also has the reach and the advantage of heavy plate on his side. In his prime, I guess even Jaime would fear Robert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingelheim Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 Isn't this a 1v1 scenario tho? Why would he need to watch his back? If someone tried to circle around him in a 1v1 he would just... turn around? Sorry I didn't really say what I wanted to say...it's a bit late here in Spain...I meant that Robert is the kind of guy who doesn't watch his defense, always going straight forward. A faster rival could just surround him, attack the joints and weaknesses, ala Oberyn with The Mountain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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