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Jean Valjean from LotR, because he shoots fireballs out of his eyes.

Sherlock Holmes from the Harry Potter series, because he's a samurai and laser gun specialist.

Count Pyotr Bezukhov from The Hunger Games, because he is immortal and there can be only one.

Sherlock Holmes is my faaaavourite Harry Potter character! Closely followed by Viserys Malfoy!
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I wouldn't have to be a "moany shit" about it if people followed the one simple instruction. I still have no idea who those people are, save Constantine, who, I am guessing is the same Constantine that Keanu Reeves played, but I do not know if maybe there are others from different stories.

Maybe you're new to message boards, but people are going to post what they want to. Unless you're an admin you can't just set rules and expect everyone to follow them. I'm mobile right now so I don't want to type a whole bunch.

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As we're going across mediums I've gone for one from tv/film, video games and books...



1. Thrall - Warcraft Universe - Warchief of the Horde and general all around badass


2. Aragon - LOTR


3. Jack Bauer - 24



Honourable mention to Ash Ketchum... You don't wanna mess with that dude.


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Agreed, the right actor/actress can totally make a character one that is not to be fucked with.

And congratulations. On the very first post, you fail to do the one thing I asked, which was to give an explanation for each character.

EDith shall my be my friend and help me. I'm sorry that my time yesterday evening - having early shift in mind - didn't allow me to elaborate.

EDith helped me. Go check. Now kindly use ETA in your post, please.

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I going to base this on what happens to those who oppose them:



1) Harry Dresden (Dresden Files): Cause he'll literally come back from the dead to f*ck with your plans.



2) Egwene al'Vere (Wheel of Time): She'll invent the antidote to the most destructive superweapon if she has to, but you're not defeating her in battle.



3) Batman: He's the supreme vengeance lord. What are you doing f*cking with him?


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Maybe it is just because I am not really a comic book reader, that I do not give Batman enough credit. But it seems to me that he is so bad ass because the other heroes/villians that occupy his universe allow him to be. I know that he beat Superman, (I have watch the animated fight) and had Superman wished to kill the Bat, he would and could have. That while he may be the apex of human strength and intelligence the only reason he is equal the someone like Superman is because of the restraint of them. That goes for Iron Man, Captain America, Green Arrow, Hawkeye, and other mere humans in the world of super heros. (I love the superhero movies, I am just not verst in the comic history of them, save for the broad strokes of their histories)



Now I am not knocking Batman and company, just pleading ignorance maybe. Of course that is because I do not read the comics, I've tried, just not for me. But I would like someone to explain the rational behind Batman being just so badass. I have a friend that is a huge Batman fan but he has always failed to convey to me why he thinks Batman is just the greatest.



I will try to explain my logic somewhat. Take Mitch Rapp, my number 1 choice. He lives, basically, in our world, no superpower, outrageous gadgets, or super drugs. He, like Batman I guess, is the apex of physical prowess, though maybe not intellectually (but he has the CIA's brain power at his disposal). So he does not go up against aliens or god-like villains, just other humans either bend on destroying America (terrorists) or throwing him in jail (Senators), many times both at the same time. Rapp wins because he is able to figure out what the terrorists are planning and stop them rather then, as I see it, Batman winning because some vastly superior villain had an overly elaborate plan and did not just do things the simplest way possible and/or kill Batman and Co. when they had the chance (similar to why I do not have James Bond on my list).



Now, I may be totally off base when it comes to Batman, so someone please argue for him.


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1. Tywin Lannister

I could sum it up in Pycelle's quote or give a link.

I'm referring to show and book Tywin here. I think this man has a lust for power, and he knows how to use it. He's driven, energetic, no "smiling lion" like his father Tytos. He knows how to rule a kingdom in the back of a king (as Hand) - and he proves that quite a lot. Along with the power comes his wealth - the wealth of House Lannister which also allows him to buy resources, be they material or human.

I think Pycelle's quote at his funeral - although the reader knows that he's a bit of a dummy for the Lannisters - sums it up quite nicely.

Tywin does not hesitate when it comes to defend his family or reach his goals *for* his family.

Although I always imagine other people when I read the books, Charles Dance does a great job.

And this is the link: Click me!

I could have chosen every other where he puts people in their places. But this one is quite - except for a few alterations - literally filmed as the scene is in the book, and I think it shows pretty much *how* Tywin works.

Tywin on family: click.

Tywin's achilles heel is his greatest goal: family.

2. Patrick Bateman

Patrick Bateman is a dangerous man. He's a psychopath - and a clear one that. I wouldn't go past him. A monster in a suit.

3. Professor Moriaty

Sherlock Holmes' nemesis at all times. He reminds Sherlock that evil can't be defeated for once and for all. And that's why he's not to be f*cked with.

Thank you for elaborating.

I was close to picking Tywin myself, but his downfall is his children and the way he died. His children basically messed with him their whole lives, his daughter stole his heir, and he stubbornly failed to see past his prejudices of Tyrion to see his true worth.

This is why I picked the phrase "not to be fucked with" because it is both indefinable and also obvious. It means something different to each person, yet everyone knows what it means. Meaning that it makes for a great debate.

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