ants Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Quantum of Solace suffered from a weak ending, without a big finish. I mean sure, there were explosions, but no major fight. The main villian was weak, and his strong sidekick was killed too easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shryke Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Quantum of Solace suffered from a weak ending, without a big finish. I mean sure, there were explosions, but no major fight. The main villian was weak, and his strong sidekick was killed too easily. The ending was one of the best parts. The small scale of it is what makes it work. One of the best parts of the movie is Bond and Camille (the girl) preping for their revenge mission. Both of them ragged, rundown and only a pair of handguns between them. All set to go on a suicide mission for revenge that will likely amount to nothing but some deaths in the middle of nowhere. That's the whole point of the movie. This is what Bond's quest has come to. It is, perhaps, not the big blast ending many might expect though, despite the exploding hotel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shryke Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Is there really that big a difference in how the Craig films compare to Goldeneye and The World is not Enough? Yes. In tons of ways, from the writing to the style to the relative seriousness of the whole thing. Goldeneye is the closest and feels like someone somewhere along the line was trying to pull a Casino Royale style reboot but they just couldn't commit to the tone, so it's full of both a serious look at post-Cold-War Bond and the toll his life takes on him and, say, a women who kills men by strangling them to death with her inner thighs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Ayras Lord Commander Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 What happened to the rumor that Bond 24 would end on a cliffhanger that led into Bond 25? All I know is that I hope someone realizes that Idris Elba is the real Bond before it is too late. This is how you do it: Bond (Craig) dies near the end of Bond 24, and at the very end M turns to Elba (then not a 00 agent yet) and says, "Now your service to your country truly begins, Mr. Bond." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galactus Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Yes. In tons of ways, from the writing to the style to the relative seriousness of the whole thing. Goldeneye is the closest and feels like someone somewhere along the line was trying to pull a Casino Royale style reboot but they just couldn't commit to the tone, so it's full of both a serious look at post-Cold-War Bond and the toll his life takes on him and, say, a women who kills men by strangling them to death with her inner thighs. And that's the kind of thing I want from Bond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceluby Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 I just watched all 3 of the new bonds back to back and it confirmed for me that QoS is the best of the three from a cinematic perspective. One scene in particular that goes absolutely silent during a gunfight was an absolute masterpiece. They are great movies, but for me it goes QoS > SF > CR. Casino Royale is good, but it slogs in some places, especially during the poker game(s). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonArryn Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 The success of CR would suggest otherwise. They felt the need to reboot the series' feel for a reason. Hell, they tried to do the same with Goldeneye years earlier for the same reason. As fondly as many look back on those films, there were huge swaths of people who both liked the old films and hated the old films who wanted something that wasn't cheddary. More then liked the old style it would seem from the reception. Cause the voices complaining about the change in style are a distinct minority. No, Moore's movies brought the cheese way harder then Connery ever did. I mean, Connery's films got a bit cheesier towards the end, but nothing like Moore's oeuvre. Slide-whistles, inflating people, crying clowns, jaws, it's all ridiculous.I agree with you, I vastly prefer Craig's Bond, and Casino Royalie isn't just my favorite bond movie, it's one of my favorite movies in general too.And yeah I do feel the old movies are cheesy and a bit ridiculous, but I don't think your analysis here is quite correct. To say because people like CR means the majority feels the Moore movies are bad i dont think is true.There is a chance that a lot of people both like the Moore movies and Craig movies. Maybe people didnt feel they were that cheesy when they came out? Maybe that was what they wanted back then.I agree that the Moore movies are the worst ones, but I don't think anyone can say what most people thought then because a lot of people loved Casino Royale. Its a hell of a good movie and thats probably the reason it succeded.The times change and nowadays we like things more gritty and serious, im definitely one of them. But Moore films worked back then, hes the one whos made the most Bond movies. Even though you and me might not like them as much, we cant deny theres a reason he stayed on for so long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red snow Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 This is how you do it: Bond (Craig) dies near the end of Bond 24, and at the very end M turns to Elba (then not a 00 agent yet) and says, "Now your service to your country truly begins, Mr. Bond." The issue there is that Bond is his name not his codename from what I gather. So another character could be 007 but they wouldn't be called Bond, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch-MaesterPhilip Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 The issue there is that Bond is his name not his codename from what I gather. So another character could be 007 but they wouldn't be called Bond, That is the way I understand it as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhom Posted November 14, 2014 Author Share Posted November 14, 2014 Christopher Waltz is rumored to be the villain. If confirmed, Waltz will join a cast thought to include Naomie Harris, Ralph Fiennes and Ben Whishaw, returning from the previous 007 outing Skyfall. Last month, rumors emerged that Lea Seydoux had been cast as the film's main female star, although no formal lineup has been confirmed. Looking over his IMDB page, he would appear to have all the things I'm looking for. The cast is shaping up nicely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarGalley Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 "Nemesis of sorts"? Is he not the main villain? I hope he's not a good guy antagonist. Whatever his role is, I'm excited he's in the movie and that Sam Mendes is returning. But I'm most hopeful that we get more Quantum. A serious movie version of SPECTRE clicks all the right buttons for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nictarion Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Waltz as a Bond villain would be absolutely amazing. His charismatic Hans Landa is one my all-time favorite movie villains. Please make this happen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Moff Mithrandir Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Yep, Waltz would make an outstanding Bond villain. He's got those eccentricities but can still be terrifying at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martini Sigil Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 I dunno... I kind of liked QoS.... it wasn't as good as Casino Royale, but it was still pretty good I thought. But add my voice to the chorus that wants to see the Quantum storyline resolved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veltigar Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Yuk, It's been awhile since I saw QoS, but it wasn't good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 I liked Quantum of Solace. I even liked the title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxom 1974 Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Yep, Waltz would make an outstanding Bond villain. He's got those eccentricities but can still be terrifying at the same time.Maybe he's the new iteration of Blowfeld? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Tiger Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Yuk, It's been awhile since I saw QoS, but it was fucking awful. Fixed that for you ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fez Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 QoS is deeply underrated. Its not nearly as good as Casino Royale, but its a perfectly fine Bond film. Also, with the shortest running time of any Bond film, it has nearly no fat; just one cool scene after another. Particular mention goes to the Tosca set piece. Maybe he's the new iteration of Blowfeld? Oh damn that would be awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Tiger Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 QoS is deeply underrated. Its not nearly as good as Casino Royale, but its a perfectly fine Bond film. Also, with the shortest running time of any Bond film, it has nearly no fat; just one cool scene after another. Particular mention goes to the Tosca set piece. Exactly, awesome scenes like Mathis' emotional death scene....and Bond casually tossing him into a dumpster afterwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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