Edmund Waters Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 Well, first of all, hello, I'm new to the forum, not from an english speaking country (forget the errors), and as I noted, I used the search to find some thread about the three treasons of Daenerys, but couldn't find anything. So...We have three treasons: -One for blood (that's supposed to be Miir Maz Dur's) -One for gold (Jorah Mormont's, as it seems) -One for love (not yet)So thinking about it I came to the theory (maybe not so original) that the treason for love will not be that one person betrays Daenerys for love, but that Daenerys betrays herself for love (maybe Jon?)The other think is that the three treasons haven't happened yet... I wonder... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elfqueen Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 Hi and welcome .Your theory is intersting.But I think the prophesy stated that she would be betrayed by someone..Either way could happen .You never know what to expect with this story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoren Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 Hi and welcome .Your theory is intersting.But I think the prophesy stated that she would be betrayed by someone..Either way could happen .You never know what to expect with this story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heal Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 I would like to see Jon and Dany hooked up. When I was first reading the end of SoS I was really angry. I still am angry that Jon became Lord Commander instead of Lord of Winterfell. Him and Dany could of ruled the 7 kingdoms together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Gus the Mad Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 It is a fairly popular theory that the betrayl for love will be the dude with the blue beard, that she finds herself fantasizing about when her handmaid "helps her out." Mr. GoldTeeth...what is his name? (my books are at home) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reid Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 i don't think MMD counts, since it says will know 3 treasons, and i don't think the gold is Jorah, as he didn't exactly betray her, just informed varys of her before he got to know her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmund Waters Posted September 14, 2006 Author Share Posted September 14, 2006 It is a fairly popular theory that the betrayl for love will be the dude with the blue beard, that she finds herself fantasizing about when her handmaid "helps her out." Mr. GoldTeeth...what is his name? (my books are at home) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybroleach Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 Well, first of all, hello, I'm new to the forum, not from an english speaking country (forget the errors), and as I noted, I used the search to find some thread about the three treasons of Daenerys, but couldn't find anything. So...We have three treasons: -One for blood (that's supposed to be Miir Maz Dur's) -One for gold (Jorah Mormont's, as it seems) -One for love (not yet)So thinking about it I came to the theory (maybe not so original) that the treason for love will not be that one person betrays Daenerys for love, but that Daenerys betrays herself for love (maybe Jon?)The other think is that the three treasons haven't happened yet... I wonder... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanteGabriel Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 I wouldn't be so quick to assume Jorah was the betrayer for gold. He was just holding out for a royal pardon, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmund Waters Posted September 14, 2006 Author Share Posted September 14, 2006 So welcome to the board and i'd say your first post was a success since you didn't post you think R+L=J.Not that I don't think soI wouldn't be so quick to assume Jorah was the betrayer for gold. He was just holding out for a royal pardon, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanteGabriel Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 I don't think gold suggest the metal or money, but something material, like a pardon (it includes the lands of the Mormont as legal heir, no?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc awesome Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 I think that three people will conspire behind her and kill her each of the three for there own choices Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaime Martell Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 I think that three people will conspire behind her and kill her each of the three for there own choices Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Time for Wolves Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 Welcome :) This is an interesting topic.We have three treasons: -One for blood (that's supposed to be Miir Maz Dur's) -One for gold (Jorah Mormont's, as it seems) -One for love (not yet) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WightMeWorry Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 I think Daario is just there to illustrate Dany's weakness for dangerous men. Dany's tragic flaw will come into play again when Victarion (or Euron) shows up with that lovely fleet. Similar to Jon and his strained relationships with all those redheads :devil: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravity Gun Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 Daario is just a matter of lust, not love. She has no emotional attachment toward him.But back to topic: this is really a tough riddle to figure out. For gold? Jorah seems possible, but very uncertain, since her safely was never really threatened by Jorah's reports to Westeros. Betryal, it seems to me, should require more dramatic results. So who else in her company may be tempted by gold? Daario surely. But then again Dany seems sensible enough a girl to not to trust him much in the first place.Love? That is even tougher to guess. It implies someone betraying her to satisfy their love for someone else. Who's in love in this story? I can't think of anyone right now. Most don't even seem emotionally capable. Littlefinger, the Greyjoys, Jaime, Tyrion, Sansa... They are all either too selfish and brutal or emotionally scarred for love, let alone a love so great to betray Dany, who could offer them power and glory beyond counting. Jon alone seems capable. But he seems to be made for Dany -- so who else can he love to betray Dany? Melisandre?Which sort of brings me to this: I've read more than a few posts on this board that say they don't think a Jon/Dany match will happen because that would be too predictable. But why should that be a bad thing? By creating so many twists and turns GRRM has already made the series too long. Sooner or later he needs to tighten things up and get the story moving. Something predictable won't necessarily be a bad thing, if he can write it well (and he certainly can). After all, who had ever doubted that Frodo would successfully complete the ring quest? And yet LORT is still the monument that it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmund Waters Posted September 15, 2006 Author Share Posted September 15, 2006 Well, in fact, I thought that Dany will fall in love with Jon, but not the other way. Hence, the betrayal by love by herself (with an action that I can't see by now). And if it is predictable, what? maybe it is so predictable that we think: "it can't happen, to easy". So GRRM takes a note and some months later, tachaa! we have Dany and Jon. No one can believe it because it was to easy. You must think like Littlefinger, because when you read the game of thrones you win or you die :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stratonice Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 I'm not really convinced Jorah constitutes one of the prophesised treasons. It just seems that a prophesised event should be kind of obvious once it's happened and this just isn't. I still wouldn't go so far as to say it couldn't be but I won't be surprised if something else happens that more clearly is one of them. Assuming of course that this is one of the true prophesies.The thought of Dany being the betrayer is interesting but I don't think there's enough to go on yet to say for certain. The incident with MMD could definitely work both ways.Which sort of brings me to this: I've read more than a few posts on this board that say they don't think a Jon/Dany match will happen because that would be too predictable. But why should that be a bad thing? By creating so many twists and turns GRRM has already made the series too long. Sooner or later he needs to tighten things up and get the story moving. Something predictable won't necessarily be a bad thing, if he can write it well (and he certainly can). After all, who had ever doubted that Frodo would successfully complete the ring quest? And yet LORT is still the monument that it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Squisher Queen Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 Dany being the betrayer would be interesting. Did the book not say she would light three pyres and then mention the blue rose in the wall of ice? Or I could be remembering out of order. I am very sleepy. Maybe she gets Jon killed somehow.I think Dario is there to tell us she likes dangerous men, as people have said. I think it's important because I see her falling for Victarion. He may betray her somehow in his quest to get back at Euron for love of his wife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemrion Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 My pet theory is that Tyrion will be the betrayer for love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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