Morky_Pep Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 Just a quick question for y'all. I'm sure its been answered before but a google search isn't helping. What year is the original trilogy set in ? Currently reading Sharp Ends and I'm trying to get an idea of how close these stories take place to the main storyline. Any help ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedEyedGhost Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 2 hours ago, Morky_Pep said: Just a quick question for y'all. I'm sure its been answered before but a google search isn't helping. What year is the original trilogy set in ? Currently reading Sharp Ends and I'm trying to get an idea of how close these stories take place to the main storyline. Any help ? On 3/30/2016 at 10:02 AM, Consigliere said: Joe did give a timeline in an old thread. Can't remember which one but luckily I made a note of the timeline: TBI - year 576 BtaH - year 576-577 TLAoK - year 577 BSC - year 579-580 TH - year 584 RC - year 590 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanF Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 8 hours ago, Morky_Pep said: Just a quick question for y'all. I'm sure its been answered before but a google search isn't helping. What year is the original trilogy set in ? Currently reading Sharp Ends and I'm trying to get an idea of how close these stories take place to the main storyline. Any help ? The Fall of Dagoska is 576, so a year or two either side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 The new trilogy apparently starts 28 years after LAoK, so that'll be in 605. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red snow Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 waiting to pick the book up in a signing event tomorrow (I had it in my hands yesterday but felt it was only good manners to buy a copy from the shop doing the signing). By then I hope someone has come up with a definitive reading order so that I can dip in and out of the other books appropriately. Given how this seems to be a hurdle for getting new readers, Joe should definitely have a guide on his site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanF Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 3 hours ago, Werthead said: The new trilogy apparently starts 28 years after LAoK, so that'll be in 605. Rather later than I thought, then. That would put most of the protagonists of TFL in their late 50's/early sixties, Monza would be in her mid fifties, and her son in his twenties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanF Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 5 minutes ago, red snow said: waiting to pick the book up in a signing event tomorrow (I had it in my hands yesterday but felt it was only good manners to buy a copy from the shop doing the signing). By then I hope someone has come up with a definitive reading order so that I can dip in and out of the other books appropriately. Given how this seems to be a hurdle for getting new readers, Joe should definitely have a guide on his site. I would start by reading "Made a Monster" and then just follow them in chronological order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red snow Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 10 minutes ago, SeanF said: I would start by reading "Made a Monster" and then just follow them in chronological order. How are the new stories holding up? I got the impression some of the shorts are connected at least by protagonists possibly making for something in between short stories and a set of adventures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanF Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 2 minutes ago, red snow said: How are the new stories holding up? I got the impression some of the shorts are connected at least by protagonists possibly making for something in between short stories and a set of adventures. Shevedieh and Javre feature in five of the stories, sometimes running into other characters from TFL and the standalones. Hell, A Beautiful Bastard, Made a Monster, Some Desperado, either fill out back stories of characters, or fill in some of the blank spaces from the novels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HexMachina Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 27 minutes ago, SeanF said: Rather later than I thought, then. That would put most of the protagonists of TFL in their late 50's/early sixties, Monza would be in her mid fifties, and her son in his twenties. That would be consistent with the podcast where Joe said the new trilogy would focus on the new blood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
End of Disc One Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 Anyone else think that characters aged more quickly than you would expect in the standalones? Cosca and Lamb are described as old as fuck in RC, but I don't remember them being that old in the trilogy, 13 years earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanF Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 26 minutes ago, End of Disc One said: Anyone else think that characters aged more quickly than you would expect in the standalones? Cosca and Lamb are described as old as fuck in RC, but I don't remember them being that old in the trilogy, 13 years earlier. Logan's led a hard life in the Near Country for years, and Cosca's been hitting the bottle for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morky_Pep Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 Thanks for the timeline clarification. Im really enjoying the stories so far. Just finished reading Hell and was really affected by it ! I also love Shev and Javre. They make me laugh. EDIT: Two's Company is probably the most I've ever laughed while reading. Kudos Joe ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red snow Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 I maybe missed Wert posting it on here but he's put the timeline/reading order up on his blog. Nice work. 4 hours ago, SeanF said: Logan's led a hard life in the Near Country for years, and Cosca's been hitting the bottle for years. I can imagine with all the broken bones etc he'd look pretty grizzled. I always thought of Cosca looking a bit old - it's hard to imagine him ever looking young. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanF Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 19 hours ago, HelenaExMachina said: That would be consistent with the podcast where Joe said the new trilogy would focus on the new blood I imagine the political backdrop will be mutual hostility between three powerful tyrannies, the Union, Styria, and Gurkhul. I guess the new generation could be Monza's son, the children of Jezal and Terez, the children of Shenkt and Vitari, and Ardee's child, as well as others yet to be revealed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanF Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 15 hours ago, Morky_Pep said: Thanks for the timeline clarification. Im really enjoying the stories so far. Just finished reading Hell and was really affected by it ! I also love Shev and Javre. They make me laugh. EDIT: Two's Company is probably the most I've ever laughed while reading. Kudos Joe ! I was surprised at the way that Eaters were portrayed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Yup, timeline and map up here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red snow Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Epic fail by waterstones Bristol signing. I arrived 10 minutes after the start to discover they had no copies of the new book remaining. I've been to well over 20 signing over the years and have never witnessed that - not even at a GRRM signing with a 500m queue. It wasn't even that busy today. The mind boggles at how a store could be that badly organised. I was pretty pissed so didn't bother chatting with Joe as it's not his fault they fucked up. Fortunately Forbidden planet had a signed copy (turns out Joe had been there in the morning) so Waterstones didn't cost him a sale. I'm just irked at putting off buying the book so that I could reward the store for putting a signing event on. I can start it over the weekend now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Abercrombie Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Yeah, I dunno what happened there. Never done a signing where they ran out of books before. We started 20 mins early but it wasn't like they had THAT many people turn up. Sorry, man. Still, at least you got one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red snow Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 4 minutes ago, Joe Abercrombie said: Yeah, I dunno what happened there. Never done a signing where they ran out of books before. We started 20 mins early but it wasn't like they had THAT many people turn up. Sorry, man. Still, at least you got one. The starting early may have made things worse - still shoddy planning on their behalf. Bristol doesn't seem too kind to you with signings, I recall the FP last year had you competing with the Magic Gathering evening occurring at the same time. They did at least have plenty of books there. At the end of the day I wound up with a signed copy still and I'm sure I wasn't the only sale Waterstones lost because of a bumble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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