James Steller Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 For a bit of fun paralleling fiction with history, as we know George RR Martin does with relish, let's see how many historical counterparts we can find for the characters of ASOIAF. Here's some that I've noticed or heard other people identify: Balon, Euron, Victarion, and Aeron = The sons of Ragnar Lothbrok. Brienne of Tarth= Joan of Arc Tyrion Lannister= Richard III Bran and Rickon Stark= The Princes in the Tower of London Khal Drogo= Attila The Hun Joffrey= Emperor Nero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tynned Lannistark Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 I don't see a lot of between Brienne and Joan of Arc. Richard more like Stannis. In general the Baratheon Brothers are like the York brothers Robert being Edward the IV. It was discussed in other threads I believe. I've always thought Tyrion was too modern in his thinking to fit any historical character. Agree about Rickon & Bran. I suppose Drogo as Attila works as well. I think Joffrey more Caligula than Nero. Someone mentioned in another thread that Tywin has a lot of Bismarck in him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floki of the Ironborn Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Mance Rayder = William Wallace, or King Alaric of the Goths, maybe? Grand Maester Pycelle/ Varys = Rasputin Robb Stark= Edward the Black Prince Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSB Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 For a bit of fun paralleling fiction with history, as we know George RR Martin does with relish, let's see how many historical counterparts we can find for the characters of ASOIAF. Here's some that I've noticed or heard other people identify: Balon, Euron, Victarion, and Aeron = The sons of Ragnar Lothbrok. Brienne of Tarth= Joan of Arc Tyrion Lannister= Richard III Bran and Rickon Stark= The Princes in the Tower of London Khal Drogo= Attila The Hun Joffrey= Emperor Nero could you expand on why they seem similar to you? drogo only intended to conquer further than previous khals, so although the dothraki are certainly comparable to the mongols i fail to see the attila similarity. same applies to every example, going by my recollection of history (fictional itself in my opinion, not that that is relevant). joan of arc was supposedly tasked by god to help the french, richard was an exiled king, and the princes in the tower were killed, i think. nero surely was a despotic and unstable chap, but had longer to display such traits than the sort (weeks? months?) that joff sat the it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Malenkirk Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 drogo only intended to conquer further than previous khals, so although the dothraki are certainly comparable to the mongols i fail to see the attila similarity. Attila was the leader of the Hun, not the mongols. And the Huns were notorious for alternating between protection racket and particularly vicious pillaging around the crumbling Roman empire, pretty much like the Dothraki are doing in Essos. Difference; the Huns were better organized and yet got stopped in about one generation. The Dothraki are less organized and yet mysteriously nobody puts a stop to them. Eh. As far as personalities go, I can't claim to know enough about Atilla to make the comparison on that level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Brandon Badwater Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 varys = rasputin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Malenkirk Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 varys = rasputin Beside the fact that they are both 'power behind the throne', what makes him similar to Rasputin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varys+Cersei=Aemon Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Robert Baratheon = The Swedish king Gustav Vasa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Brandon Badwater Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Beside the fact he is a power behind the throne, what makes him similar to Rasputin? cos i say so and you can`t be wrong with an opinion.... oh and quaithe = nostradamus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Malenkirk Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Joan of Arc was not a powerful fighter, she was an incredibly charismatic young woman of peasant origin that convinced nobles that she was the messenger of god. Brienne is a noble, extremely shy and uncharismatic but a physical powerhouse. So what they have in common? They are women and they have swords. Pretty much it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assjfjgjsgjljljglgjfjsduar Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Baratheons: YorksTargaryens: Lancaster Tyrells: NevillesLannisters: WydevillesAerys: Henry VIRobert: Edward IVCersei: Elizabeth Wydeville and some Margaret of AnjouJaime and Tyrion: Anthony WydevilleStannis: Richard IIIRenly: George, Duke of ClarenceJoffrey: Edward V and some Edward of WestminsterMace and some Tywin: Warwick the KingmakerMargaery: Anne and Isabel NevilleRhaenyra: MatildaAegon II: StephenAegon IV: Henry VIIINaerys: Katherine of AragonAegon III: Henry IIAegon V: Edward III (the common ancestor of the warring cousins)Aegon: Perkin Warbeck/Henry VII combinationJonCon: Jasper TudorLyanna: Some Margaret Beaufort, if she had diedDaeron I: Richard the LionheartRed Keep: White TowerNarrow Sea: English ChannelAegon I: William the ConquerorValyria: RomeFree Cities: the merchant city-states of the Low Countries and ItalyBraavos: Venice (the sealord is the doge) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Brandon Badwater Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 varys = rasputin Beside the fact that they are both 'power behind the throne', what makes him similar to Rasputin? was rasputin not advisor to the slain russian tzar and his whole family? is that good enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Brandon Badwater Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 danaerys = anastasia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Malenkirk Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 was rasputin not advisor to the slain russian tzar and his whole family? is that good enough? And Cardinal Richelieu was the power behind Louis XIII. For that matter François Leclerc du Tremblay was the influential advisor of Cardinal Richelieu, nicknamed the Éminence Grise (Gray Eminence) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89minence_grise), a term that has become synonimous with 'power behind the throne'. Dick Cheney has been refered to as Bush's Éminence Grise. Martin Bormann for Nazi Germany has played this role, Edith Wilson was alsmot de facto president of the USA after Woodrow Wilson's stroke, the list goes on. Rasputin was rather unstable and not a methodical thinker, quite unlike Varys. He's more of a con man that wormed his way in the antechamber of power for his own benefit, like Nostradamus. Any number of powerful advsiors throughout history make better parallel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Brandon Badwater Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 And Cardinal Richelieu was the power behind Louis XIII. For that matter François Leclerc du Tremblay was the influential advisor of Cardinal Richelieu, nicknamed the Éminence Grise (Gray Eminence) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89minence_grise), a term that has become synonimous with 'power behind the throne'. Dick Cheney has been refered to as Bush's Éminence Grise. Martin Bormann for Nazi Germany has played this role, Edith Wilson was alsmot de facto president of the USA after Woodrow Wilson's stroke, the list goes on. Rasputin was rather unstable and not a methodical thinker, quite unlike Varys. He's more of a con man that wormed his way in the antechamber of power for his own benefit, kike Nostradamus. Any number of powerful advsiors throughout history make better parallel. You have your opinion i have mine. Like i say you can`t be wrong with an opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pikachu101 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 George based the series off The War of the Roses: Robert and Robb: Edward IVCersei: Margaret of Anjou/Elizabeth Woodville Dany and Aegon: Henry VIIJon Connington: Jasper Tudor Catelyn: Elizabeth Woodville Melisandre: Margaret Beaufort Tywin: Richard Neville Stannis: Richard III Renly: George, Duke of Clarence Bran and Rickon: Princes in the Tower Sansa: Elizabeth of York Eddard: Anthony Woodville Aerys: Henry VI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Malenkirk Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 danaerys = anastasia Inspired by the Anastasia myth, perhaps. The real Anastasia Romanov did die with the rest of her family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Malenkirk Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 You have your opinion i have mine. Like i say you can`t be wrong with an opinion Of course you can. It's not as cut and dry as debating a scientific principle, but opinions can be wrong. Are you confusing opinions with tastes and preferences? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Brandon Badwater Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 And Cardinal Richelieu was the power behind Louis XIII. For that matter François Leclerc du Tremblay was the influential advisor of Cardinal Richelieu, nicknamed the Éminence Grise (Gray Eminence) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89minence_grise), a term that has become synonimous with 'power behind the throne'. Dick Cheney has been refered to as Bush's Éminence Grise. Martin Bormann for Nazi Germany has played this role, Edith Wilson was alsmot de facto president of the USA after Woodrow Wilson's stroke, the list goes on. Rasputin was rather unstable and not a methodical thinker, quite unlike Varys. He's more of a con man that wormed his way in the antechamber of power for his own benefit, like Nostradamus. Any number of powerful advsiors throughout history make better parallel. Inspired by the Anastasia myth, perhaps. The real Anastasia Romanov did die with the rest of her family. I used Varys to fit in with danaerys so the other nmes on your list didn`t fit. Anastasia Romanov did die with the rest but who`s to say the real Danaerys didn`t? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Flandrensis Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Baratheons: YorksTargaryens: LancasterTyrells: NevillesLannisters: WydevillesAerys: Henry VIRobert: Edward IVCersei: Elizabeth Wydeville and some Margaret of AnjouJaime and Tyrion: Anthony WydevilleStannis: Richard IIIRenly: George, Duke of ClarenceJoffrey: Edward V and some Edward of WestminsterMace and some Tywin: Warwick the KingmakerMargaery: Anne and Isabel NevilleRhaenyra: MatildaAegon II: StephenAegon IV: Henry VIIINaerys: Katherine of AragonAegon III: Henry IIAegon V: Edward III (the common ancestor of the warring cousins)Aegon: Perkin Warbeck/Henry VII combinationJonCon: Jasper TudorLyanna: Some Margaret Beaufort, if she had diedDaeron I: Richard the LionheartRed Keep: White TowerNarrow Sea: English ChannelAegon I: William the ConquerorValyria: RomeFree Cities: the merchant city-states of the Low Countries and ItalyBraavos: Venice (the sealord is the doge) :agree: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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