Mladen Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 I haven't ready them fully, but it was mosly bringing all over again same arguments every time. And only indication of his age is his beard which looks exactly as Ned Stark's one (Yeah, that beard that made him look much older, than he really was). Howland Reed, according to GRRM himself is Ned's age aka in his thirties. High Septon is old man, in his 50-60-ies. We even have show casting Jonathan Pryce as HIgh Sparrow. So, unless people want to be deliberately obtuse, this story is done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poppa Chase Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 People just can't accept such a strong player to be introduced out of nowhere in the fourth book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerrorVoid Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 Howland Reed, according to GRRM himself is Ned's age aka in his thirties. High Septon is old man, in his 50-60-ies. We even have show casting Jonathan Pryce as HIgh Sparrow. So, unless people want to be deliberately obtuse, this story is done. The septon had a lean sharp face and a short beard, grizzled grey and brown.Yeah, of course you are right. If man has grey in his beard he is definitly much older than Ned Stark. Ppl tend to grew grey/white hair in their 50-60 His closely trimmed beard was shot with white, making him look older than his thirty-five years. Bran 1. Even Ned Stark himself is much older than Ned Stark. Oh, wait... If you want to continue we should probably go to somewhere like http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/topic/117238-high-sparrow-howland-reed-40/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfmaid7 Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 100% sure 1.That the WWs do not raise the dead(mine) 2.Jon is the next NK (Note i'm not saying he will be evil) 3.Arya is the Volonqor ( i butchered the speling i know) 4.Young Griff is a fake 50% sure 1.R+L=J 2.Aerys + L=J 3. Sansa will give the finger to Little Finger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Blizzardborn Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 Sandor lives.Ashara Dayne lives.Alleras is Sarella. Those are the only ones I can say I fully believe (other than R+L=J). Ones I am willing to entertain:-is Aerys' son (contrary to popular belief, TWOIAF actually lends some credence to this, and makes the Twingaryen theory look really unlikely) TWOIAF says that Joanna was one of several of Aerys' lovers who were dismissed from Queen Rhaella's service. The twins were born at CR, and Joanna had been there for quite some time prior. She visited KL the year Tyrion was conceived, and Aerys still had it bad for her at the time. -Aegon is actually Aegon-Aegon is actually a Blackfyre, or a Brightflame descendant, or some mixture thereof-Daario is a Blackfyre, descended from the female line through Haegon Blackfyre-Stannis accidentally turns out to be AAR in spite of everything -Varys is a former FM trainee, and the blood of the dragon (Brightflame)-assorted others I can't recall at the moment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazfemur Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 Me personally, I want The Gravedigger to be Sandor the Redeemed. Robert Strong = Gregor Clegane. Sandor does not fight Gregor. Aegon is descended from brightflame/blackfyre ancestry. Others, are more than just a mindless, genocidal tribe with purpose There is no such thing as a female Other (This includes The Night's Queen). I'm into the Sarella/Alleras theory "Varys," is just another costume. Marwyn cut Varys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annarkie Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 1.) There will be no Iron Throne at the end2.) Tyrion will ride a dragon3.) We will see more of Sandor.4.) Dany will get pregnant ...and possibly die in childbirth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Blizzardborn Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 1.) There will be no Iron Throne at the end 2.) Tyrion will ride a dragon 3.) We will see more of Sandor. 4.) Dany will get pregnant ...and possibly die in childbirth. 1. Yes, or the very last scene will be of its destruction. 2. Hell yes! I want him to buzz the Red Keep, or Casterly Rock, just for the look on Cersei's face. #KodakMoment 3. Hope so. 4. Very likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrion The Huge Posted February 7, 2015 Author Share Posted February 7, 2015 Well, mine is not a theory but just speculations. I believe Tommen remains on the Iron Throne in the end, and be a good king blah blah :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bendubz Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Alleras=SarellaGravedigger=HoundSer Robert=UnGregorHound=ValonqarBran wargs Jon's bodyR+L=J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barr1stanTheBold Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 100% sure 2.Jon is the next NK (Note i'm not saying he will be evil) Interesting....Is this something that you just want to happen? Or do you really think he could become the NK, based of clues/facts? Also if he did become the next NK, why wouldn't he be evil? Aegon is Blackfyre Could someone expand on this theory? It's not one I've heard before. I always thought the Blackfyre was a fabled Valyrian Sword, I must have missed something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaegar Targaryen's Ghost Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Jon is alive in Ghost Sandor=Gravedigger, but we will NOT see him again Robert Strong= Gregor Alleras= Sarella Septa Lemore= Ashara Dayne Euron = Daario Jaime is the Valonqar, and will die while killing Cersei Frey Pies Hooded Man= Septon Chayle Coldhands= Bloodraven's Warged Wight Aegon is a Blackfyre Dany dies in childbirth There will be no Iron Throne at the end, it will be back to Kings of the North, Reach, Stormlands, etc. Jon is Azor Ahai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStarkInWinterhell Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Interesting....Is this something that you just want to happen? Or do you really think he could become the NK, based of clues/facts? Also if he did become the next NK, why wouldn't he be evil? Could someone expand on this theory? It's not one I've heard before. I always thought the Blackfyre was a fabled Valyrian Sword, I must have missed something. Daemon Blackfyre bastard son of Aegon IV took the name of the sword after being legitimize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandit Territory Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Alerras = Sarella Sandor = Gravedigger Frey Pies Oberyn poisoned Tywin every mentioned of word "sapphire" signifies secret relevant to the scene every mention of phrase "arbor gold" signifies deception of some sort Shavepate poisoned locusts Mance wrote Pink Letter Only thing that WOIAF proved is that Aerys had a thing for Joanna. Nothing really hints and them being reciprocated in any way. From a Wiki of Ice and Fire - There are rumours about Joanna having given her maidenhead to Prince Aerys the night of Jaehaerys' coronation, and had reigned shortly as Aerys' paramour, after he ascended the throne himself. Grand Maester Pycelle insists there rumours are only rumours, not truths. ... On their wedding day, Tywin smiled, a very rare occurrence. During the bedding ceremony, however, King Aerys is stated to have taken "unwonted liberties" with Joanna. Not long thereafter, without any reason stated, Joanna was dismissed by Queen Rhaella from her service in King's Landing. While Queen Rhaella turned a blind eye towards most of her husbands infidelities, she did not approve when it concerned one of her own "ladies". Joanna was one of many ladies to be sent away from court. She departed for Casterly Rock at once, and would seldom visit King's Landing from that moment forth. Key word here being seldom, if she had never returned it would I have said so. I fully believe GRRM bothered to include this for a reason, it's not just there for filler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedShirt47 Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Daemon Blackfyre bastard son of Aegon IV took the name of the sword after being legitimize. He fought a rebellion to take the throne from his younger (but legitimate) brother. Bloodraven shot him at the battle of the red grass field (or some such). His descendants fought several other rebellions, the last of which was the war of the nine penny kings. Barriston Selmy killed the last male descendant during this war. One theory goes that Illyrio is born of a female descendant of Daemon Blackfyre and that Serra was a descendant of Aerion Brightflame (who was exiled to Lys). So Aegon is the son of a Blackfyre descendant and a Brightflame descendant (a Brightfyre). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithras Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Preston Jacobs = Fraud I may not believe in 99.9% of his theories but I do not think he is trolling or a fraud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Blizzardborn Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Well, mine is not a theory but just speculations. I believe Tommen remains on the Iron Throne in the end, and be a good king blah blah :D Tommen, the Grover Cleveland of Westeros! I'd love for him to live, but that poor kid is doomed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barr1stanTheBold Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Daemon Blackfyre bastard son of Aegon IV took the name of the sword after being legitimize. I know who that Blackfyre is and about the rebellion, but that a 100 years before the current time of Ice & Fire.... but when you guys are saying Aegon=Blackfyre I am thinking the Young Griff. I would like to hear the reasons/clues for this theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barr1stanTheBold Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 One theory goes that Illyrio is born of a female descendant of Daemon Blackfyre and that Serra was a descendant of Aerion Brightflame (who was exiled to Lys). So Aegon is the son of a Blackfyre descendant and a Brightflame descendant (a Brightfyre). Gotcha. Now my question is the theory of how Illyrio is a Targ lol, but I won't clutter this forum with it. I'll do some searching on this forum for answers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Blizzardborn Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Gotcha. Now my question is the theory of how Illyrio is a Targ lol, but I won't clutter this forum with it. I'll do some searching on this forum for answers. Check out Brightfyre theory. It's really good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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