alcasinoroyale Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 alcasinoroyale Your Cersei and Jaime outlines seem pretty accurate, except i think Loras will get into the fight with the guards/faith militant earlier; either at the end of episode 4 or 5. Margery needs to be imprisoned by ep 5 or 6. Also somewhere in the starting episodes 1-4 there has to be a margery storyline, where Cersei tries to catch her and her cousins out for not being maidens. We have seen that they are introducing a new kingsguard to the fold, he may only be an extra, but maybe he will be a Kettlblack replacement of some kind. I also think she will use LF's associate Olyvar to get Loras caught by the faith militant. I feel like it makes more sense for Loras and Maragery to be arrested after Mace is sent to Braavos. However, considering the distance between King's Landing and Braavos. It's possible that Mace and Meryn Trant could leave in Episode 6. I also agree with you about the new kingsguard being a Kettleblack replacement and Cersei catching Margaery and her cousins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konradsmith Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Loras's arrest is in a Mark Mylod ep. (via set pics from the time of Finn Jones talking to Mylod between takes shooting his arrest scene and via TristanSnow's info). My guess is in 504. This would fit with what seems to be a montage in one of Mylod's eps. of the Sparrows stamping out "immorality" across KL. Also Finn Jones grew a beard, which he said in an interview was for GoT, later on in the shoot (in the autumn). So he'll be locked up for at least THAT long (ie. enough eps. to suggest weeks without being able to shave). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alcasinoroyale Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Loras's arrest is in a Mark Mylod ep. (via set pics from the time of Finn Jones talking to Mylod between takes shooting his arrest scene and via TristanSnow's info). My guess is in 504. This would fit with what seems to be a montage in one of Mylod's eps. of the Sparrows stamping out "immorality" across KL. Also Finn Jones grew a beard, which he said in an interview was for GoT, later on in the shoot (in the autumn). So he'll be locked up for at least THAT long (ie. enough eps. to suggest weeks without being able to shave). My bad. I didn't catch that, but in that case who would murder the High Septon and who is getting framed for that because its crucial in introducing the High Sparrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igrewupinKL Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Konradsmith's got it^ Yeh so probably Loras gets arrested in ep 4, margery in ep 5 Ep 6 will have tommen complaining, wanting to get her released and maybe sending mace to braavos (hes a buffon so he'll go along whilst olenna stays in the capital). in ep 7 cersei will think she has it made, she'll visit margery and act all innocent and then be arrested when the high sparrow leads her into to a room where Lancel/KG is. So i think Loras will be in the cells for 2-3 episodes and margery for 3 episodes, we'll see her be released in ep 8. should be sufficient time for beard growing and confessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konradsmith Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 I don't think anyone will murder the High Septon, alcasinoroyale. I think he's the old man running away from the brothel raid in TristanSnow's description of what was shot for the Sparrow's purging KL sequence. That would be enough to discredit him, I think. IIRC in AFFC there was a candidate for HS that was routed out of a brothel by Sparrows, so it'll merge that with the bookHigh Septon's fate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alcasinoroyale Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 I don't think anyone will murder the High Septon, alcasinoroyale. I think he's the old man running away from the brothel raid in TristanSnow's description of what was shot for the Sparrow's purging KL sequence. Oh ok. They seem to be moving through King's Landing storyline pretty fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igrewupinKL Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 I think the high septon will still be murdered when cersei thinks Lancel has confessed something to him. It doesn't make sense for the high septon to be in the faith militant montage as the high sparrow has already been elected and faith militant armed (ep504)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konradsmith Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 I dunno. They were up to shenanigans in KL before he was elected in AFFC too. I think Cersei will offer him some info/give him permission to seize power over the Faith in their meeting in ep.503 and then they'll have their big purge and coup simultaneously. BTW, the "Lead Kingsguard" will only feature in the one ep., (504 IIRC), so I think he'll just be the one with Tommen in the scene where he goes to see the High Sparrow (as WOTW and TristanSnow reported). Remember also in predicting the s5 KL stuff that Qyburn and Pycelle both appear in 5 eps. (as per Glover and Lesser's Flicks and the City interviews). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larastone Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 I also don't think that the lead kingsuard will take a kettleblack role (altho i really want him to because he's hot and i want to see him naked) because it seems like he'll only be in 1 episode also i'm not looking forward to the OMG!!!!WHITEWASHING!!!111 drama on here if cersei does not murder the high septon on the show and D&D find some other way to get rid of him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeParking Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 nevermind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alcasinoroyale Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Remember also in predicting the s5 KL stuff that Qyburn and Pycelle both appear in 5 eps. (as per Glover and Lesser's Flicks and the City interviews). Well I think Cersei will visit Qyburn sometime mid season to see his work on the experiments (Gregor Clegane or maybe Lollys Stokeworth) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoManyVows Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 My bad. I didn't catch that, but in that case who would murder the High Septon and who is getting framed for that because its crucial in introducing the High Sparrow. Yeah, this is just a guess, but I don't think that Cersei will order the High Septon's assassination. It was never established in the show that he was appointed by Tyrion, so that information would have to be introduced if Cersei were going to use it as justification to have him killed. We can see in the trailer that the old High Septon presides over Tommen and Margaery's wedding (which is likely to be in Episode 2). The High Sparrow is in power by Episode 3, as we learned from A Day in the Life. That's a tight window in which to have Cersei turn on him. It's true that the show could reasonably introduce that information through a line of dialogue in the first or second episode and then have Cersei act quickly to establish her increasing paranoia, but it might seem abrupt. I think that the Sparrows, disgusted by the increasing corruption and the disregard that the King's Landing elite have for the poor, will simply rise up and overthrow the High Septon themselves, installing their leader in his place. That will probably happen in the beginning of Episode 3. Later in the episode, Cersei goes to see him (and she refers to him as "The High Sparrow" in A Day in the Life, suggesting that she's aware of the movement). They come to some sort of understanding wherein the Faith will do something for the Crown (forgive their debt, bless Tommen, etc) in exchange for being allowed to "clean up the streets" of King's Landing without being harassed by the Gold Cloaks. That will lead into Episode 4's montage of the Faith raiding taverns and brothels while the Gold Cloaks turn a blind eye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larastone Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 what episodes do you guys see qyburn appearing in? i think he'll either appear in episode 1 or 2 (or both) in which cersei tells him to prepare tywin for the funeral, maybe ask him to give her gregor's head that she can send to dorne with jaime, then appear midway in the season in which cersei sends him a liar from court that brought a fake tyrion head (if they're keeping the dwarf killings in) and then of course visit cersei at least once in prison and show up in ep 10 while unveiling robert strong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alcasinoroyale Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 What episode is most likely where Olenna walk into the trashed whorehouse? I always assumed she was talking to Littlefinger in that scene where she says "They'll never find what's left of you" reminding him that Cersei has way too much to deal with rather than worrying about what Littlefinger is doing. I think there will be at least one small council meeting early in the season with Cersei, Kevan, Qyburn, Pycelle, Mace, and Tommen. Qyburn would also appear there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konradsmith Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Yeah, this is just a guess, but I don't think that Cersei will order the High Septon's assassination. It was never established in the show that he was appointed by Tyrion, so Cersei using that knowledge as justification to have him killed would have be established beforehand. We can see in the trailer that the old High Septon presides over Tommen and Margaery's wedding (which is likely to be in Episode 2). The High Sparrow is in power by Episode 3, as we learned from A Day in the Life. That's a tight window in which to have Cersei turn on him. It's true that the show could reasonably introduce that information through a line of dialogue in the first or second episode and then have Cersei act quickly to establish her increasing paranoia, but it might seem abrupt. I think that the Sparrows, disgusted by the increasing corruption and the disregard that the King's Landing elite have for the poor, will simply rise up and overthrow the High Septon themselves, installing their leader in his place. That will probably happen in the beginning of Episode 3. Later in the episode, Cersei goes to see him (and she refers to him as "The High Sparrow" in A Day in the Life, suggesting that she's aware of the movement). They come to some sort of understanding wherein the Faith will do something for the Crown (forgive their debt, bless Tommen, etc) in exchange for being allowed to "clean up the streets" of King's Landing without being harassed by the Gold Cloaks. That will lead into Episode 4's montage of the Faith raiding taverns and brothels while the Gold Cloaks turn a blind eye. Or this. Well put. What episode is most likely where Olenna walk into the trashed whorehouse? I always assumed she was talking to Littlefinger in that scene where she says "They'll never find what's left of you" reminding him that Cersei has way too much to deal with rather than worrying about what Littlefinger is doing. I think there will be at least one small council meeting early in the season with Cersei, Kevan, Qyburn, Pycelle, Mace, and Tommen. Qyburn would also appear there. TristanSnow's info (secondhand of course from his friends who were extras) had LF and Lancel in a scene together in one of the Mylod eps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alcasinoroyale Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 TristanSnow's info (secondhand of course from his friends who were extras) had LF and Lancel in a scene together in one of the Mylod eps. I think Littlefinger will leave the Vale in Episode 2 and arrive in King's Landing in Episode 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konradsmith Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 I think Littlefinger will leave the Vale in Episode 2 and arrive in King's Landing in Episode 4. That would work quite well. I'm not entirely convinced Olenna will be in KL that soon or that it's even LF she's talking to/warning/menacing in the trailer(though he's the most probable candidate, I guess given as he put it in ep. 103 "the locale") but 504 makes a ton of sense for LF's timeline. That would leave Sansa at the Fingers until his return (or so I think at least...). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alcasinoroyale Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 That would work quite well. I'm not entirely convinced Olenna will be in KL that soon or that it's even LF she's talking to/warning/menacing in the trailer(though he's the most probable candidate, I guess) but that makes a ton of sense for LF's timeline. That would leave Sansa at the Fingers until his return (or so I think at least...). They introduced Yohn Royce and Anya Waynwood last season, so perhaps Sansa and Robin stay with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larastone Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 idk i do think its possible that cersei might ask meryn trant to assassinate the high sparrow after their scene together in episode 1 tbh. especially since there's also a scene in episode 1 with nutty pious lancel. i could see just see it, cersei getting irritated by pious lancel and also being paranoid about him telling stuff to others, then a scene with the high septon in which cersei feels like lancel confessed to him, last episode 1 cersei scene being cersei asking trant to secretly murder the high septon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igrewupinKL Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Olenna left KL in like ep 6 last season, its plausible she'll be back for Tywin's funeral in ep 501 or margery's wedding in 502 also lead kingsguard may be credited for one ep but we don't know if thats entirely accurate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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