Darth Richard II Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 I hate it when an author writes shit then tries to defned his shit with the "oh people hate it because I included X". No, we hate your book because it sucks. Though I am sure there are plenty of people who are mad because OMG TEH GAYS. The thing is, i could go read a GOOD book with gay characters, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spockydog Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 Edit: just saw the written in 45 days comment. Seems about right. It's insultingly bad. It's like someone who secretly hates Star Wars was offered a shitload of money to write this and decided to use Cormac McCarthy as a model I just can't get over the fact this even made it pass the editorial team. I wonder if that's true. I know Wendig is fairly prolific, but I don't care how good a writer you are - you cannot write a book worth reading in such a short period of time. Of course it's gonna suck. ETA: I see it's currently sitting at #9 on Amazon's overall bestseller list. So instead of opening a huge can of worms by whining about the bad reviews, Wendig should just stfu and count his money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First of My Name Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 Went back to the preview, and I have to wonder how much he polished it after finishing the first draft - because that's exactly what the book reads like. The prologue and first chapter have the look of something hastily written and not looked at again. There's no flow at all in the prose, each sentence feels out of context. Who the hell deemed this readable?But I guess they're not much point in arguing this further when we all already agree that it sucks.ETA: On a different note, I ordered the first KOTOR Omnibus and Darth Vader and the Ghost Prison, because they're two of the best-reviewed SW comics. I've read very little SW fiction the past two years so I'm looking forward to back into it a bit.Also GP's art looks absolutely kickass http://nerdsontherocks.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/swdgp1p4.jpg, http://41.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5z2yfvOmi1rqqwj4o1_1280.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Richard II Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 It almost feels like they're trolling us on purpose. And *puts on giant nerd hat* the novel has some really bad contradictions with what little of the new EU has been established already, not to mention with just the orignal films itself. No way was this editied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unJon Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 I wonder if that's true. I know Wendig is fairly prolific, but I don't care how good a writer you are - you cannot write a book worth reading in such a short period of time. Of course it's gonna suck. There have been some. Famously: The Gambler - Dostoevsky On the Road - Kerouac Casino Royale - Fleming A Clockwork Orange - Burgess I'm sure there are others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvinus85 Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 Good prose will do that for ya. Yeah, people bitched about the lesbian moff, even though they were a minority. The only thing about Aftermath I've seen people bitch about is the writing, and it has (IIRC) five times as many LGBT characters as LotS. The gay characters are not the issue here. Yeah, a couple of the bad reviews on Amazon did come from Sad Puppy-like people. But most were definitely about the prose, and some also said the story wasn't that great. I have yet to determine if the latter is true. Edit: I just read some of those comments of support on Weding's page. Wow, those people are either completely deluded, or their literary range is somewhere between 0 and 5 books in their life. (Or they're Disney employees) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First of My Name Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Yeah, a couple of the bad reviews on Amazon did come from Sad Puppy-like people. But most were definitely about the prose, and some also said the story wasn't that great. I have yet to determine if the latter is true. Edit: I just read some of those comments of support on Weding's page. Wow, those people are either completely deluded, or their literary range is somewhere between 0 and 5 books in their life. (Or they're Disney employees)Yeah, I read them too. 'Everyone else is wrong, the book was awesome!' I guess only Wendig's big supporters would care to follow him on Twitter to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Richard II Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Submitted without comment: http://www.themarysue.com/naboo-hoo-hoo/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underarmsauce Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Read aftermath. Utter disappointment. No talk of the original trilogy characters at all except for a mention of leia giving a propaganda speech and 3 pages of Han and Chewie. The prose sucks, some of the interludes felt fucking pointless except for the fact of added pages. I know some people are upset about the addition of gay characters. That's fine, no problem with me, but on three seperate occasions we get the mention of other gay couples in the book, to me that just seemed heavy handed by the author and what really frustrates the hell out of me and makes me regret buying the book more than anything, Wendig cannot take criticism at all. He's literally going on Twitter rants trying to defend his product and blaming eu nostalgia and conservatives disliking a gay protagonist. Pass on this book. It sucked and there's no reason to support this author at all. Read the three smaller books like smugglers run or weapon of the jedi or lost stars. You'll get something out of those. Smugglers Run is awesome. Greg Rucka nailed Han Solo and captured the feel of Star Wars. Wendig, created a jumbled disaster, and then throws in a character at the end that is a total rip off of a hugely popular eu character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Richard II Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Yeah, I'd bet good money Wendig has mever seen Star Wars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underarmsauce Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Yeah, I'd bet good money Wendig has mever seen Star Wars. He's coming across as a thin skinned asshole on Twitter. It's pretty pathetic how he's acting and treating criticism on his account regarding the book. I refuse to buy the next two books in this trilogy strictly for his behavior and the two main ploys to continue reading the trilogy were pretty obvious. The Han and Chewie interlude and the far too obvious, let's excite the eu fans, who I will then criticize for not liking my book, carbon copy of a fan favorite in the last chapter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Richard II Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Fuck me, it's a trilogy? I wonder if he wrote the whole thing in a few weeks. And as someone who has hated the EU for a decade or so and was glad(kinda) it got tossed out....well my feelings on this book are clear but I like to repeat myself This book sucks donkey balls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvinus85 Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Fuck me, it's a trilogy? I wonder if he wrote the whole thing in a few weeks. And as someone who has hated the EU for a decade or so and was glad(kinda) it got tossed out....well my feelings on this book are clear but I like to repeat myself This book sucks donkey balls. Of course, Star Wars is all about trilogies, and trilogies, and trilogies... Still slogging through it, and I have decided I won't be buying the other two. I don't know how long it took him to write the others, but I wonder if they will be released before the movie, since this trilogy is supposed to bridge the time gap between episodes VI and VII. And regarding the link you posted above, once again I want to hit my head against the wall after reading all those user comments, and Wendig brushing off the biggest issue with the book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Richard II Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Reminds me of that review Ebert wrote that was the basis for his book Your Movie Sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underarmsauce Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 The book that should of got the big push in this whole journey to the force awakens is lost stars. Awesome story so far. Carried on from pre episode 4 through episode 6 and beyond. Blows Aftermath away. It's kinda got lost in the shuffle to all the new books released and the pre-release aftermath hype. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Richard II Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 I was poking at Lost Stars in the store today. Have to give it another look. And there's an audiobook version of Aftermath. I can't even process that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mars447 Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 I've heard elsewhere that the writing style presents itself better in the audiobook than in print. Still, fuck you Disney/Marvel. You give a 3 book series to Chuck Wendig but not Greg Rucka? Rucka's known for his diverse casts and strong female characters (one of the lead characters in his Star Wars limited comic series is a female A-Wing ace) AND he writes good prose and is great with military fiction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castel Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Submitted without comment: http://www.themarysue.com/naboo-hoo-hoo/ The best thing about the internet; you can always find someone that hates your shit and use that for your own ends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underarmsauce Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 For anyone who has finished the book, does the last chapter seem like a desperate attempt by the author to excite eu fans with addition of a character[spoiler] who greatly resembles Thrawn is his mannerisms, suggestion of tactical brilliance, and a great manipulator? Even if it turns out to be Thrawn, I have no faith in Wendig's ability to convey the character at all for the next two books.[/spoiler] The ending felt very contrived, and came across as a lame attempt to excite people for book 2, in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First of My Name Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Has it been confirmed that Wendig will be writing the next two Aftermath books as well? I know it's usual to stick with the same author but I'm hoping they might forgo that because of the reviews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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