Hippocras Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 2 hours ago, Channel4s-JonSnow said: A 'Resurrection theme' for the season could easily backfire I think. It could turn into a 'nobody can die, so you don't have to worry about anything theme', each resurrection lessening the power of the next one. I disagree. I mean, it does happen in the books, so the bonus of doing it all at once is that it can be compressed rather than drawn out, and it allows to explore the ways that people are changed by being "reborn" in an interwoven way. It doesn't need to occupy a great deal of screen time as a theme. It is just that the connections between the various characters who turn out not to be dead for good and their stories will help to enhance the impact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channel4s-JonSnow Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 2 hours ago, Hippocras said: I disagree. I mean, it does happen in the books, so the bonus of doing it all at once is that it can be compressed rather than drawn out, and it allows to explore the ways that people are changed by being "reborn" in an interwoven way. It doesn't need to occupy a great deal of screen time as a theme. It is just that the connections between the various characters who turn out not to be dead for good and their stories will help to enhance the impact. Well it depends how its done. The problem is the general problem the books had, where they did a load of fake-outs with deaths. Not only do you have Jon and LS, you have the Hound, the Mountain etc. If everyone comes back all at once it could end up being quite eye rolling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damorian Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 No one saw The Hound die, merely left for dead. And it's been long established that Qyburn's alchemy saved The Mountain from near-death (beginning season 4 and brought back S5) as opposed to reanimating his cold corpse. On flat-out resurrection, they have only the cumulative double-whammy of LSH and Jon in S6 to worry about, whom, with the minimum of artistic imagination, they could easily tie in thematically without it seeming a retread - especially as Red God resurrection counterpoints, i.e: with Stoneheart's, well, stone-heartedness, being the cautionary warning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LStoneheart Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 2 hours ago, Damorian said: No one saw The Hound die, merely left for dead. And it's been long established that Qyburn's alchemy saved The Mountain from near-death (beginning season 4 and brought back S5) as opposed to reanimating his cold corpse. On flat-out resurrection, they have only the cumulative double-whammy of LSH and Jon in S6 to worry about, whom, with the minimum of artistic imagination, they could easily tie in thematically without it seeming a retread - especially as Red God resurrection counterpoints, i.e: with Stoneheart's, well, stone-heartedness, being the cautionary warning. If it wasn't for Jon/LS in one season being too much I'd be sure she appears on the show....on the other hand it uis fantasy series and also replacing Catb with Blackfish would just be insulting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Bauer 24 Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 1 hour ago, LStoneheart said: If it wasn't for Jon/LS in one season being too much I'd be sure she appears on the show....on the other hand it uis fantasy series and also replacing Catb with Blackfish would just be insulting... Lol Sati. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LStoneheart Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 21 hours ago, Jack Bauer 24 said: Lol Sati. I dont follow, Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Bauer 24 Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 3 hours ago, LStoneheart said: I dont follow, Dan You used "insulting" before. Same wording even. You aren't fooling anyone Sati. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LStoneheart Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 On Wednesday, February 10, 2016 at 5:17 PM, Hippocras said: I think she will be in season 6, and we will see her before Jon is "reborn". It makes zero sense to do it later. Part of the point of reserving her for season 6 would be to create a resurrection narative for the season, and the reason for doing that in season 6 and not earlier is Jon. All of the others: Sandor, Gregor, Stoneheart, could easily have been brought back or shown more earlier, except for Jon. I could actually see season 6 starting off with a creepy scene something like the Merrett Frey chapter. Such a scene for opening moment would be very cool but I have a feeling given how they ended s5 with Jon I think they will also start with Jon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbent87 Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Love LSH but think the moment has passed . It's too much to be introduced in one season and will certainly be a "jump the shark" moment for Unsullied. Also with the way some of these blogs have covered the "offseason"/filming you would have thought we'd hear something about Michelle Fairley by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kissdbyfire Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 I would have thought "insulting" is a word very commonly used when talking about Lost. Oops, sorry, I meant GoT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hippocras Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 19 hours ago, LStoneheart said: Such a scene for opening moment would be very cool but I have a feeling given how they ended s5 with Jon I think they will also start with Jon I am not convinced. I mean, I do of course realize everyone watching wants to know about Jon. But that doesn't mean the show needs to oblige immediately. I am in the camp that firmly believes any Jon "rebirth" requires more context to be established than we currently have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairGrowsBack Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 2 hours ago, Hippocras said: I am not convinced. I mean, I do of course realize everyone watching wants to know about Jon. But that doesn't mean the show needs to oblige immediately. I am in the camp that firmly believes any Jon "rebirth" requires more context to be established than we currently have. I'm sorry, but the show doesn't care about that. They'll revive Jon when they want to, because reasons. As for LS: not happening. None of the characters involved (Jaime, Brienne) are where they're supposed to be, and and it seems like it's not going to change. Also, they didn't care about Catelyn when she was alive, they care even less for her undead version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hippocras Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 2 hours ago, HairGrowsBack said: I'm sorry, but the show doesn't care about that. They'll revive Jon when they want to, because reasons. As for LS: not happening. None of the characters involved (Jaime, Brienne) are where they're supposed to be, and and it seems like it's not going to change. Also, they didn't care about Catelyn when she was alive, they care even less for her undead version. This is untrue. There were sightings of Brienne at the Riverlands sets during filming, and also some very top secret filming in Iceland took place, where no filming had been announced, involving Jaimie, and happening at the same time as the outlaw characters from the casting call. So Jaimie and outlaws filming same time, and Brienne in the Riverlands. All very much suggests the encounter with the BWB will happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairGrowsBack Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 13 minutes ago, Hippocras said: Hidden Content Spoiler Yes, but we also know that Jaime and Brienne will be dealing with the Blackfish, not LS. In any case, it's not like to bear any resemblance to the original plot (except maybe superficially) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hippocras Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 4 minutes ago, HairGrowsBack said: Reveal hidden contents Yes, but we also know that Jaime and Brienne will be dealing with the Blackfish, not LS. In any case, it's not like to bear any resemblance to the original plot (except maybe superficially) we'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damorian Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Quote we'll see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fattest Leech Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 16 hours ago, Damorian said: This is so creepy. I love it. Zack Baggins would be proud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farerb Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Do you think they might consider doing CGI Stoneheart? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hippocras Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 1 hour ago, farerb said: Do you think they might consider doing CGI Stoneheart? Don't think so. I don't see why they would. Michelle did well as Cat and there is no reason to avoid having her come back....to top secret filming in Iceland when Iceland was not supposed to be a filming location this year that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damorian Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Besides the fact it obviously needs the returning actress for the emotional gut-punch, LSH is pretty much the definition of a look that warrants practical over CGI, imo. Look at what extreme disfigurements the walker prosthetics achieve in The Walking Dead, for example …. practically anything that still looks photoreal. That type of extreme look done either full CG (or partially) in live action - as in TDK, for example - tends to give you a superimposed hyper-reality, usually with a quite cartoonish, unreal feel to it: For the gritty world established in G.O.T., usually (but not always) with minimal invasive CGI, it'd be pretty disappointing (for me at least) if they copped out with an all-digital creation rather than the proven acting chops of Fairley in top drawer prosthetics. Can't see why they'd bother without her, tbh. It'd be like knee-capping your prize horse on the eve of the big race. CGI, even at the highest level, just draws too much attention to itself in very practically based productions. It was no surprise for example, the most jarring moments visually that flat-out didn't work in the (much vaunted) return to practical Abrams was gunning for in The Force Awakens were the Kanata and Snoke scenes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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