Envie Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 You think Brienne might remember to inform Sansa her sister is alive... But, no... Stannis shadow was what they had to talk about. Yes, this is one plot hole we can definitely nitpick about because revealing that Arya was alive would be a real game-changer for Sansa but since that never happened in the book, they've chosen not to have Brienne mention it and that just seems off, doesn't it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grail King Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 You think Brienne might remember to inform Sansa her sister is alive... But, no... Stannis shadow was what they had to talk about. I sure hope the writers have a good reason for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newstar Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 I sure hope the writers have a good reason for that.It's pretty obvious. If Brienne brought up Arya, she'd have to admit that Arya refused her help, which would naturally lead Sansa to wonder what it was about Brienne that had scared Arya off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Smith Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 It's great she's dyed her hair, but other than that, there doesn't seem to be ANY effort to keep her identity a secret. So, what was the point? This. What on earth are they doing in a tavern??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good Guy Garlan Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 I had a big smile on my face during that sceneand not because I thought the scene was great I was just happy that Brianna's A Feast for Crows storyline came to a very quick end lolSame here! And I kinda like the, I don't know, symmetry of both Stark girls refusing Brienne's help. Poor girl can't catch a break Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christi84 Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 It's pretty obvious. If Brienne brought up Arya, she'd have to admit that Arya refused her help, which would naturally lead Sansa to wonder what it was about Brienne that had scared Arya off. And this would be something that wouldnt be too good for LF to know if Brienne is thinking right, and Sansa probably wouldnt want him to know either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grail King Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 It's pretty obvious. If Brienne brought up Arya, she'd have to admit that Arya refused her help, which would naturally lead Sansa to wonder what it was about Brienne that had scared Arya off. Sceptical as she should be line to Pod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mladen Posted April 20, 2015 Author Share Posted April 20, 2015 This. What on earth are they doing in a tavern??? Sansa trying beer of course... And informing general public that she was there... Like, if you are hiding, aren't inns the first place you actually don't go to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogprivilege Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 No, there was never any effort to explain it. This is the sort of thing that really drives me bonkers about this show, the little details. Because it would have been so, so easy to cover that base. Make a point that Tywin et al. won't let her near Sansa, have her lobbying Jaime to get her access, Jaime waffles on the whole situation, have Brienne shoot an anxious glance at Sansa at the wedding, and you're done. All that would take is a couple of lines of dialogue. I was waiting for a Brienne and Sansa scene in 4x02. I mean, she had a scene with Cersei and Margarey. I was really disappointed when we didn't get any interaction between the two. And this would be something that wouldnt be too good for LF to know if Brienne is thinking right, and Sansa probably wouldnt want him to know either This is probably the best, most reasonable in-show explanation (though apparently LF knew Arya was alive as of s2, but this point has been ambiguous). I doubt however the writers thought that hard about why she wouldn't mention Arya, they probably just neglected it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jandslegate Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 The weirdest part of this setup is that I initially approached Littlefinger's retorts as him lying, like he usually is, but seeing as he doesn't know about the shadow baby, he probably does think Brienne is some crazy liar who killed Renly herself. It would be the explanation that most appeals to his cynical personality. I thought the scene with Brienne was reasonably well-handled. Sansa could have taken the line of reasoning regarding Brienne being at the wedding further, but I would guess that the show's writers didn't want to have her say "I know you arrived with Jaime Lannister. If you're some super-loyal servant of my mother, why were you in the capital for like a month and didn't ever come and see me?" That would call too much attention to a plot point for which the show never supplied any kind of explanation. I've never been able to get past that. I get it's important for the overall story with Brienne but from a practical aspect wouldn't it make more sense if she simply said Renly was killed by an assassin instead of giving all her detractors ammo with 'it was a shadow monster that killed him, totally not me.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Guapo Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Sansa trying beer of course... And informing general public that she was there... Like, if you are hiding, aren't inns the first place you actually don't go to? She didn't nothing of the sort that was Brienne informing everyone that it was Sansa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirthula Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 The weirdest part of this setup is that I initially approached Littlefinger's retorts as him lying, like he usually is, but seeing as he doesn't know about the shadow baby, he probably does think Brienne is some crazy liar who killed Renly herself. It would be the explanation that most appeals to his cynical personality. I thought the scene with Brienne was reasonably well-handled. Sansa could have taken the line of reasoning regarding Brienne being at the wedding further, but I would guess that the show's writers didn't want to have her say "I know you arrived with Jaime Lannister. If you're some super-loyal servant of my mother, why were you in the capital for like a month and didn't ever come and see me?" That would call too much attention to a plot point for which the show never supplied any kind of explanation. makes you question what the hell was catelyn stark thinking hatching this crazy plan. in restrospect robb really got screwed by the women. the women he married and his mother with her dumb move atleast if he had jamie then Tywin wouldn't have risked killing him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex999 Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Sansa trying beer of course... And informing general public that she was there... Like, if you are hiding, aren't inns the first place you actually don't go to? I would be shocked if most of the people at that inn didn't see Brienne as a raving nutcase This woman was talking about a shadow creature with the face of stannis lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 It's great she's dyed her hair, but other than that, there doesn't seem to be ANY effort to keep her identity a secret. So, what was the point? I think it is very likely that that Inn is Littlefinger's, or else he bought the people running it. If all else fails, he might just kill the staff after he leaves. The only one he seems to be actively concerned with preventing from leaving was Brienne, probably because Brienne was the only one there who could force her way out. So bantying Sansa's name about in a little tavern probably isn't that big a deal so long no one with real power or strength sees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross2013 Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Yes, this is one plot hole we can definitely nitpick about because revealing that Arya was alive would be a real game-changer for Sansa but since that never happened in the book, they've chosen not to have Brienne mention it and that just seems off, doesn't it. Well, except Brienne would have been forced to say "umm, yeah, I found Arya and she didn't believe me or trust me either...in fact she preferred the Hound to me....but you really should trust me." I can see where Brienne decided to save that detail for later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cashless Society Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 There's actually another Inn in Westeros that's not called The Inn at the Crossroads?But Brienne calling out Sansa for everybody to hear? And then Baelish and Sansa confirming their that it is, in fact, Sansa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel Green Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 There's actually another Inn in Westeros that's not called The Inn at the Crossroads? Missed opportunity for a Hot Pie cameo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Damian Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 IF Sansa knew about her betrothal, would she have left with Brienne? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel Green Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 IF Sansa knew about her betrothal, would she have left with Brienne? Would have shaken things up, no doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamLemonCakeBraavos Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Missed opportunity for a Hot Pie cameo. LOL! "I don't know nothing about no Sansa Stark. But I do know...You cannot give up on the gravy!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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