The Last Left Fighting Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 I reckon it *is* Jaqen but even so, he is no one, which is what Arya must become. Oldtown storyline probably is way out at this point. Too big of a complication for this show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayarts Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 I may be in the minority here, but I am really ok with this change to the story. I was jumping up and down cheering when they revealed who the old man really was - totally took me off guard since obviously that's totally different from the books. This is one spoiler no one saw coming! I liked it, too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Taxman Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Pate will be replaced by Arya. She will take on the mission at the Oldtown Citadel... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igrewupinKL Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 yeh its not the 'jaquen' we saw in westeros. it is the kindly man but the show just wanted to bring back tom W and i don't blame them. he is great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aFeastForDragons Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 They wanted to bring back a recognisable and very fun to watch character. If Euron isn't in this season then Oldtown and Pate aren't going to be either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Good decision. And they re-introduced him really well: "A man is not Jaqen H'gar". Likely that Pate and Oldtown is cut, but not confirmed IMO. Disappointed with the House of Black and White introduction in general though. What was with kicking her out and then letting her back in? Lazy storytelling. The Kindly Man needed some time to chat up his colleagues inside. "So there's this girl outside asking for a Jaqen H'ghar. Any of you guys know this bloke?" "Hm, no, not really. Let's check our archives." and then they went down into that face chamber trying on faces until they found the right one. It was a time consuming process. Obviously, the KM felt bad about having made Arya wait that long, so he went to great lengths to retrieve the coin from the ocean floor in order to make up for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boojam Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Is the Kindly Man??? D&D creativity or spoiler??? Yeah, and this was guessed years ago. As visual narrative makes sense not to hire a new actor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightice Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 It was a time consuming process.Obviously, the KM felt bad about having made Arya wait that long, so he went to great lengths to retrieve the coin from the ocean floor in order to make up for it.I'm more inclined to think that this is the first step of deliberate discouragement that the Faceless Men impose on the potential recruits. In the books they list all sorts of promises they can fulfill if Arya just chooses to live a normal life. I expect that they wanted to see if she'd break down or start begging, in which case she would be unworthy, but she stayed and only left when she needed food, showing pragmatism along with her determination. In other words, it's all a test. EDIT: This was my first post here? I could have sworn I've posted here a few years ago... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 I know. I just thought my version would have been funnier... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boojam Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Ah - so you think it's really the kindly man using the "Jaqen" face, and not the other way around? Color me confused. I thought they decided to drop the "Kindly Man" persona altogether and just have Jaqen take over that role to streamline things and give the non-book reader audience a familiar face they consider a BAMF from seasons past. Well ... even in the books both Jaqen and The Kindly Man are 'No One' or any other FM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voodooqueen126 Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 I think the refusal was definitely a test of Arya's determination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaqen Hghar Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 A man is an actor - and he just has to abide with what the script writers have put in place for him :fencing: Still, a fan who is impressed enough by the character of a man and how an actor portrays him to choose him for his forum avatar is obviously very happy to see an actor cast yet again as what may - or may not - be the same man :cool4: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prince of Porne Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 I'm guessing the Pate storyline is out. I doubt it is that important. Given that it opened and closed AFFC, that would be a little disappointing. I'm trying not to assume too much about what is and isn't "important" to the endgame of the books based on what D&D choose to include...not sure I trust them to correctly discern that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sultan of Westeros Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 The interesting thing about Jaqen H'ghar's character is that he had a minor role in season 2 but is still remembered and loved by audience. A man has talent to make impression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First of My Name Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 I may be in the minority here, but I am really ok with this change to the story. I was jumping up and down cheering when they revealed who the old man really was - totally took me off guard since obviously that's totally different from the books. This is one spoiler no one saw coming!Well, I kind of saw it coming because the actor's name was listed in the intro :P I don't think they should have put it there, it gave away a good twist. I think the refusal was definitely a test of Arya's determination.I agree, but I wonder why they let her in. I mean, if the requirement for passing was that she spend the night outside THOBAW, why didn't they let her in sooner? Instead, she left and is picked up later. Kind of weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boojam Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 What happened to the headless pigeon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sultan of Westeros Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 What happened to the headless pigeon?It became a 'faceless' pigeon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerys Blackfyre Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Pate will be replaced by Arya. She will take on the mission at the Oldtown Citadel... this would be awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagon Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 It was awesome. He momentarily crashed the server. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyvasse Khal Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 It's going to be interesting to see how they handle one of the most important parts of being a Faceless Man in changing their face after every mission in order to never get recognised or tracked down. Realistically we would never see this 'Jaqen' face again or at least it wouldn't be used for a very long time. But the actor is great and viewers need a familiar face to help ease into this story. What is going to happen with Maisie Williams though? She's phenominal as Arya, but the whole point of this storyline is Arya becoming a no-one, face included. It would be such a shame to lose Maisie, but at the same time it doesn't make much sense for Arya to continue to be played by Maisie soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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