Greywolf2375 Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 and to continue... Even though Mockingbird has been canned, I don't see a huge issue with them being able to adjust the story so that Bobbi either can come back easily or never leaves. Could be interesting also to see what they do with Mack now if he was scheduled to be part of the spin off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxom 1974 Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 Mack can just as easily be brought back. I don't think the stopping of doing a spin off is a huge deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveSumm Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 I will never start a thread here, the bar is just too high for titles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sci-2 Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 Good to see that Adama got what was coming to him. Glad the spin-off was cancelled as I think both shows would then fail since both would be diluted. Only thing is I hope Mac comes back rather than continuing the pattern of black agents of SHIELD being booted off AoS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon AS Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 Good to see that Adama got what was coming to him. What did he do that meant he had being murdered coming to him? Apart from embracing luddism and dooming humanity to tens of thousands of years of slowly rediscovering technology, that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumHam Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 I have a feeling Mack will turn out to be an Inhuman. I doubt they brought out these other terragin crystals just to kill people with them. Someone's gotta change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sci-2 Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 What did he do that meant he had being murdered coming to him? Apart from embracing luddism and dooming humanity to tens of thousands of years of slowly rediscovering technology, that is. Dude was completely hostile to everyone with powers. It was clear if he didn't get to index everyone he would use violence. I would've blown SHIELD outta the sky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon AS Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 Dude was completely hostile to everyone with powers. If having no regard for other people's rights was justification enough to kill somebody, the entire main cast should have been up against the wall a long time ago. While I'm not saying they shouldn't maybe be in prison, that strikes me as a bit harsh. Adama was clearly offering an olive branch there, but Skye's mom was meeting with him in bad faith to begin with: all she wanted to do was murder him to start a war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The BlackBear Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 I figured they introduced the synthetic crystals to get around the scarcity of Diviners. Great title btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvinus85 Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 Dude was completely hostile to everyone with powers. It was clear if he didn't get to index everyone he would use violence. I would've blown SHIELD outta the sky. So you're on the Cap's side. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martini Sigil Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 I love the idea of Mockingbird on AoS ... I'd personally love more of a larger comic influence... Jessica Drew, Norman Osborne, Taskmaster, Agent 13, etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywolf2375 Posted May 11, 2015 Author Share Posted May 11, 2015 Good to see that Adama got what was coming to him. Glad the spin-off was cancelled as I think both shows would then fail since both would be diluted. Only thing is I hope Mac comes back rather than continuing the pattern of black agents of SHIELD being booted off AoS. Agreed - I could see them doing a filler mini-series sort of thing (similar to Carter) where they focus on her or a small team pre-AoS. While this isn't something I generally really take into account, it would also be nice to have Mack stay on so that the main cast does continue to have the diversity it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sci-2 Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 If having no regard for other people's rights was justification enough to kill somebody, the entire main cast should have been up against the wall a long time ago. While I'm not saying they shouldn't maybe be in prison, that strikes me as a bit harsh. Adama was clearly offering an olive branch there, but Skye's mom was meeting with him in bad faith to begin with: all she wanted to do was murder him to start a war. If Coulson wasn't there Adama was going to attack. If they refused to be indexed Adama was going to attack. So you're on the Cap's side. ;) They switched it last minute to make Adama seem good....it's weird how this show ends up so pro-authority compared to Cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon AS Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 If Coulson wasn't there Adama was going to attack. If they refused to be indexed Adama was going to attack. The fact remains that he was genuinely willing to talk, having had his mind changed by the rest of the ruling council. Jiaying was the one who who went into the meeting with the intention to murder the SHIELD representative. Of course if SHIELD wasn't acting as if it had any legal authority none of this would be an issue at all. Sadly the show has never been inclined to engage with ethical questions, preferring to try to hide behind very simple black and white conflicts instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bastard of Boston Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 Pretty decent season finale. I thought the Mockingbird/Hunter stuff was the strongest aspect of it, which makes me sad the spinoff was cancelled. SHIELD seems like it's going to take a decidedly superhuman "Secret Warriors" approach next season, and it makes me feel like Mockingbird is going to get lost in the shuffle. She can lead her own show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvinus85 Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 Pretty decent season finale. I thought the Mockingbird/Hunter stuff was the strongest aspect of it, which makes me sad the spinoff was cancelled. SHIELD seems like it's going to take a decidedly superhuman "Secret Warriors" approach next season, and it makes me feel like Mockingbird is going to get lost in the shuffle. She can lead her own show. It was good stuff, but in the big picture of the episode, it was small stuff. You're right that Mockingbird may get lost in all the big plots that are coming. However, it does look like Ward will be a major villain next season, so I think Bobbie will want some payback for what he tried to do. But that ending, I am a bit in shock. I also like that Mack is staying, the guy is a quick thinker. I liked the finale, but I couldn't help feel the disconnect with the movies. Considering that SHIELD almost fell, yet again, and Inhumans were involved, it would have made perfect sense for the Avengers, the new Avengers led by Cap, to swoop in and help. Or at least Fury to show up with the helicarrier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martini Sigil Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 didn't that thing kill Tasha Yar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bastard of Boston Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 I don't think we should ever hold our breath in regard to Captain America swooping in to do anything on this show. I feel like the show will always be a compliment to the films as opposed to a component -- for better or worse. The occasional appearances by Maria Hill, I think, are the best we can hope for. It goes back to the old comic book trope...the world is ending in every title, but nobody is ever wondering what the other heroes are doing. Maybe it's because my brain is programmed to never expect it after years of comic exposure, but at no point during this episode did I ever think that the Avengers should be showing up. Would it make sense? Sure. Is it feasible from a logistical standpoint? Not so much. I will say Marvel needs to stop being so stringy with its characters, though. I hope next season, with the influx of NuHumans, we see more of the 2nd and 3rd tier heroes make appearances. The films are crammed...Marvel should not be apprehensive about holding over too many heroes when they can barely fit the current heroes in movies. I don't believe Simmons is dead for a second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leofric Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 I don't believe Simmons is dead for a second. I wonder if they are going to go the Fred/Illyria route from Angel and all that comes back is an Inhuman-killing Kree weapon in a Simmons body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Anti-Targ Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 Crap! did some shit happen in the final seconds of the episode to Simmons? I missed the last few seconds after Fitz started walking out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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