Valyrian Blade Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Am i the only one mad he didn't fight with lightbringer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howling Mad Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Am i the only one mad he didn't fight with lightbringer? I noticed that as well. I guess the CGI budget ran low at the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithras Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Am i the only one mad he didn't fight with lightbringer? Well, it looks like his battery ran out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twenty of House Goodmen Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Stannis never had Lightbringer in the show, or at least it never glowed like in the books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Drunkard Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Like Bronn said about killing babies, the only question is how much will you pay? Stannis' sellswords will be good if any promise of financial reward still exists. Apparently not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerys Blackfyre Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 now we know for sure that the lord of lights doesn't give 2 shits about sacrifices Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Stark Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Hate to say "I told you so". But... Bye Stannis. RIP Shireen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince of Dinas Emrys Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 It may be possible that Shireen was not Stannis's natural daughter, and that Melisandre realized this after Selyse hung herself. Hence Stannis was no kinslayer and no royal blood was spilled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
239JMFL34109 Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 now we know for sure that the lord of lights doesn't give 2 shits about sacrifices idk he made it real easy for mel to get to jon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
239JMFL34109 Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 It may be possible that Shireen was not Stannis's natural daughter, and that Melisandre realized this after Selyse hung herself. Hence Stannis was no kinslayer and no royal blood was spilled. she is his daughter. they got the best thing they needed but it is not what they wanted... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince of Dinas Emrys Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 What's your evidence that Shireen was not Selyse's bastard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arya and Needle Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Note that Roose Bolton said he wasn't going to march as long as the weather stayed snowy and horrible. If you believe that the red magic worked, then Shireen's sacrifice led to the warm weather, which led to the Boltons marching out on Stannis. So her sacrifice did cause the defeat of Stannis. Very appropriate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
239JMFL34109 Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 What's your evidence that Shireen was not Selyse's bastard? what evidence do you have that she was a bastard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince of Dinas Emrys Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 I said "possibly" Shireen is Selyse's bastard. It's speculation. You asserted that no, Shireen is definitely legitimate. I've asked for evidence in support of that assertion. Can you provide it or no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunrise Nymph Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Note that Roose Bolton said he wasn't going to march as long as the weather stayed snowy and horrible. If you believe that the red magic worked, then Shireen's sacrifice led to the warm weather, which led to the Boltons marching out on Stannis. So her sacrifice did cause the defeat of Stannis. Very appropriate. I thought so too! They got what they wanted, warm weather, but the old gods/karma/the force/whatchamacallit doesn't like killing your own children, thus the defeat. Also, I wondered if Melisandre had a revelatory moment when she left Stannis, like 'oh shit I've read everything wrong' and that's why she runs off to Jon, maybe seeing that it could have been him instead? Or something? She must have seen that Stannis wasn't Azor Azai reborn for real or she wouldn't have abandoned him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
239JMFL34109 Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 I said "possibly" Shireen is Selyse's bastard. It's speculation. You asserted that no, Shireen is definitely legitimate. I've asked for evidence in support of that assertion. Can you provide it or no? no i said she is his daughter just like Jon is ned's son. considering that how it is presented it is on you to rebut the presumption Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince of Dinas Emrys Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 I presented speculation. Conjecture: Shireen might not have royal blood so the sacrifice was not effective. If you disagree, I'd like to know on what grounds. Otherwise let's call it a day and stop annoying each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Androme Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 I presented speculation. Conjecture: Shireen might not have royal blood so the sacrifice was not effective. If you disagree, I'd like to know on what grounds. Otherwise let's call it a day and stop annoying each other. ''Kingsblood'' as established in the books is carrying the blood of someone who has been crowned king. In the books, when Stannis ordered Axell Florent burned, they prayed to R'hllor for a blessing in wind so they can sail to the wall faster, and they got it, because the Florents are descended from the ''Gardener King''. So we can presume that the technicality of ''kingsblood'' is being related to someone of ''great importance'', I doubt the thing differentiating ''kingsblood'' from ''regular blood'', is whether the person in question ever considered himself exactly the word 'king' or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pashernate Reader Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Note that Roose Bolton said he wasn't going to march as long as the weather stayed snowy and horrible. If you believe that the red magic worked, then Shireen's sacrifice led to the warm weather, which led to the Boltons marching out on Stannis. So her sacrifice did cause the defeat of Stannis. Very appropriate. :agree: Poetic justice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyser1 Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 Hopefully Shireen's sacrafice was not all for naught. Melisandre has to be at the wall for more than just to hangout with Thorne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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