Rant and Rave without Repercussion [Book Spoilers]

[BitsOfBrains]

I am not a Daenarys fan, but wasn't she a bit of a brat with her dragon?

He just saved her life, burning all these Sons of the Herpes (just when you think they are gone they pop back up out of nowhere) and he got shot/stabbed many times.

Daenarys don't care, "Get up lazy bones! I aint got time to bleed!"

Also I really REALLY did not like the body double job on Cersei. I think thats just lazy acting/cgi run amok.

Plus the actress has gotten naked before in other stuff.

It was a seriously deep and meaningful scene, not like the sexy time in jail stuff.

I thought that was a good scene until I watched it on a TV with a decent size screen and realized how it looks like a cheap photo shop job you see on fake celebrity porno sites.

It was a raw, naked, horribly human scene and she had to ruin it because.....?

[Spark7]

Unfortunately Achilles-Ramsay only has 19 left. One of them died taking down 100 Baratheon knights!

Not a problem, the dogs will replace him

[Natalia Borgia]

Watching Elio and Linda's review. They have the problem with D&D's adaptation of Stannis nailed down- Stannis has a lot of ambition in their view rather than believing he is destined to save the world.

I want my HBO fee back :)

[Eucratides_Megas]

I get that perhaps budgetary constraints meant that they couldn't do much of a battle sequence at WF, but really, was that it, a pan out and then cut to massacred Baratheon troops, very underwhelming end to Stannis's story in the show, I'm guessing the battle of WF will be a bit better in the books lol. But what does this mean for Stannis's fate in the books, I get that the show and the books are 2 different entities, but does this mean Stannis is done in the books as well I wonder?..

I would not trust D&D if they told me that at some point in the Winds of Winter snow falls.

They took any credibility they had, shot it, raped its corpse then immediately claimed GRRM told them to do it.

[Prince of the North]

Well, remember at Craster's keep when Karl Tanner et al were running out of food, they captured Ghost AND Summer and instead of crossbowing these fearsome predators like the Freys did to Grey Wind, they kept them alive FOR NO LOGICAL REASON. So it's actually a nice bit of continuity to have the other NW mutineers keep Ghost alive for no logical reason. He doesn't seem to care much about Jon's mortal peril anyway ;)

HA! Very true! The show runners are quite consistent in their inconsistency, quite logical in their illogic, and absolutely love displaying great continuity in their discontinuity! :D

Seriously, though, I know it was never really set up in the show as in the books but these were supposed to be supernatural, unwavering, practically unbeatable guardians for the 6 "Stark" kids that could literally sense danger but on the show...nuthin'! At least, in the books, Martin provided some explanation for the dire wolves not being there to protect their "Stark" when they were locked up, sent away, or killed. :rolleyes:

[Natalia Borgia]

This is what happens when people who don't like reading adapt 5,000 plus pages of a story. I swear they do the inside the episodes to troll the fuck out of book purists. Like ha ha we have summer stock theater costumes for Dorne but we made 600 individual faces for one scene!

[Anarchosaurus Rex]

Just a few years ago, I actually flew out from Florida to California to watch the finale with some of my old friends from college. When we were in school together, we took turns hosting viewing parties in our apartments. There were turkey legs, mead, lemon cakes, and cosplay. We even played the board game. Hell, my girlfriend and I got in line for the SDCC panel at 6 a.m.!

Now, the idea of doing any of that is unthinkable. The bottom fell out of the show so quickly.

[Le Cygne]

But in all seriousness GoT has a major Darkness-Induced Apathy problem. I don't see how anyone can really enjoy it.

Game of Misery, life sucks and then you die, if you are lucky.

[LadySoftheart]

Well, that does happen in the books, too. So not sure we can criticize it in the show other than the Tommen we saw talking to his grandfather seemed like a normal sort of person, not someone who was going to totally fall apart like he did.

Tommen was eight years old in the books; his bride was giving him kittens and not orgasms and his mother was threatening the whipping boy if he didn't do as he was told. The kid couldn't abolish beets, let alone go against the High Septon and the Regent Kevan Lannister, to stop something that he may or may not have known was happening.

It's another example of how they do one thing (aging Tommen up so he could have sex on the show) and then that thing has ramifications they utterly fail to consider.

[Cas Stark]

I didn't like the body double either.

Giving her a smokin hot body defeats the purpose.

[The Northern Scholar]

The more I think about this EW article the more annoyed I get.

I don't particularly care if Jon is dead or dead dead (ok, I do!). But it was one of the great talking points as we wait for book 6. To spoil that in a stupid interview would be more egregious to me than any other spoiler-y thing the show has done thus far.

[Et tu Olly?]

Maybe is Jun Snah who is dead...

oly, y u do dis?

[Houndbird]

Reader

Your false plot is dead, reader. It and all its characters were smashed in 10 weeks of episodes. I have its ending. Tell its author.

Your false plot's themes are dead. Their metaphors smeared upon the walls of Winterhell. Come see them, reader. Your false plot lied, and so did George RR Martin. You told the world Sansa was getting smarter. Instead she went to Winterhell to be raped by Ramsbo.

I will have my shocking moments back. If you want the ending to your story, come and get it. I have it on HBO for all the world to see, proof of your lies. The network is greedy, but we have made a promise to spoil the 7 terrible books that started this series in Winterhell.

I want my gasps back. I want the false plot’s canon. I want to remove as many fantasy elements as possible. I want more whores.

I want to exploit them, their naked bodies. And I want my Saint Tyrion. Send them to me, reader, and I will not trouble you or your nerd friends. Keep them from me, and I will cut out your story’s heart and eat it.

Benioff the Arrogant,

Trueborn author of A Song of Ice and Fire.

Brilliant

[Lady Fevre Dream]

I just watched the first part of Elio and Linda's Episode 10 review. When even the people who don't like Stannis are calling bullshit, you know you done fucked it up.

Did D&D even read the books past the Red Wedding? I'm not even joking. This feels like the adaptation I'd get if my source material was Cliff Notes of A Song of Ice and Fire.

Last season's biggest flaws came in part because of the Sainthood of one Tyrion Lannister. He pulled a Loki when his character's popularity basically rewrote the character's intended trajectory. HBO and D&D felt the fans would not appreciate their beloved littlest of the Lannisters having any moral gray area at all, let alone the truly dark, fucked up stuff that ended A Storm of Swords.

This season just feels....empty. Like they read a Cliff Notes abridged copy of the books, got the basic plot points in a check list and bored out of their skulls turned in first drafts of their "adaptation" and sent it out to be shot.

1.) Where the flying fuck are all the Northern lords? This is a major plot engine for A Dance with Dragons. It tells us the North is far from beaten. Their lords are rebuilding, training, planning. They are quietly and savagely biding their time to make the Boltons and Freys pay for their betrayals. It colors every aspect of the building tension and inner-workings of the plot. It gives Stannis an opening to drive his whole campaign through and possibly pull off the coup of all coups by securing the North and restoring the Starks.

2.) Where the actual fuck are the Ironborn? Going back to Season 4's downright pathetic "rescue mission"---the only good thing therein being Ramsay's shirtless, blood-stained Olympian physique (though it is plenty creepy that this show has turned Ramsay Snow into some kind of sex symbol)---we saw "Yara" take her super trained killers to storm the DreadKennels in search of her brother. I say DreadKennels because apparently the Bolton's live in a big stone dog kennel. I saw nothing else there to suggest a castle. Odd that. So where did they go? We already got Balon telling her to seize Deepwood Motte, and it was never taken back by Ramsay....soooo, what? They couldn't tear us away from the Oh-so-important Sand Snakes playing slappies to give us a two second confirmation that there are such a people as the Ironborn?

.....*sigh* I knew it was going to be bad after the bullshit that was the last episode. But I never thought it would be this bad.

The Dread Kennels!!!!!!! I LOVE IT!! It's not just the North that is robbed of story, heart, and population, it's the entire show, IMO. This isn't a full functioning, furnished, three dimensional world, it's a list of plot points that D&D check off. That's all I got for now, LOL, I just has to give you SHOUT OUT for The DreadKennels!! That's perfect. :bowdown: :lmao:

[BitsOfBrains]

I am not a Daenarys fan, but wasn't she a bit of a brat with her dragon?

He just saved her life, burning all these Sons of the Herpes (just when you think they are gone they pop back up out of nowhere) and he got shot/stabbed many times.

Daenarys don't care, "Get up lazy bones! I aint got time to bleed!"

Also I really REALLY did not like the body double job on Cersei. I think thats just lazy acting/cgi run amok.

Plus the actress has gotten naked before in other stuff.

It was a seriously deep and meaningful scene, not like the sexy time in jail stuff.

I thought that was a good scene until I watched it on a TV with a decent size screen and realized how it looks like a cheap photo shop job you see on fake celebrity porno sites.

It was a raw, naked, horribly human scene and she had to ruin it because.....?

[Long Live The Onion King]

I certainly hope Jon is brought back somehow. 4000+ pages or so invested in reading the books only to have him killed off permanently would really suck.

[David Selig]

I didn't like the body double either.

Giving her a smokin hot body defeats the purpose.

Frankly that stuff in the books when suddenly Cersei changed in a few months from a stunning beauty into average looking woman way past her primer at the grand old age of 34 was kind of silly IMO.

[Long Live The Onion King]

I certainly hope Jon is brought back somehow. 4000+ pages or so invested in reading the books only to have him killed off permanently would really suck.

[JonCon's Red Beard]

Frankly that stuff in the books when suddenly Cersei changed in a few months from a stunning beauty into average looking woman way past her primer at the grand old age of 34 was kind of silly IMO.

It's called pregnancy :(

*looks at herself... cries*

[Poodragon]

I hope they leave Jon dead, and crown Ramsay king of Westeros, and have the sand snakes do stand up comedy, and have LordTyrell slay Dany and her dragons in open combat, and have Sansa die of a fever, and have Balon Greyjoy kill the white walkers, and have Arya die skateboarding, and have Rickon be eaten by a unicorn, and end the series with the camera focusing for 15 minutes on a steaming pile of shit.