Am I alone in thinking Doran is in on the poisoning?

[Hippocras]

6 hours ago, Rufiodies said:

So first off, are we sure the poison used on Bronn, is the same as the one used on Myrcella? 

The poison used on both seemed to have similar effects but Myrcella seemed to be affected much quicker than Bronn, the onset was much more sudden.

It could be the ROA, aka being cut vs oral/sub-lingual,

it could be that Bronn, being the badass that he is, has a much stronger constitution and is able to withstand the poison without being completely ko'd like Myrcella was.  

It could be that Myrcella/Jamie moment was much more... emotional? than the Bronn/Tyrene moment. 

Another thing is, we don't really have an idea of the time that passed between the poisoning, and the onset of effects of each. 

Doran HAS to be in on it, after the whole 2nd chances, no 3rd chances speech, Oberyn's paramore must have known she'd be dead if she acted against Doran's wishes, yet she still took measures to ensure she wasn't killed by her own poison. Why do that only to be killed by Doran later on? 

Theoretical - Death by that particular poison is a particularly "bad way to go" and she'd rather face Doran's wrath

Theoretical - Doran is a pretty cunning guy, he knew despite his warning, what Ellaria would do, or that she would do ... well something. The fact that he allowed Ellaria and the Sand Snakes out of jail in order to see everyone off... Its pretty obvious, So now he gets the revenge he desires, while being able to honestly say that he had nothing to do with it. 

 

Same poison. 

The purpose of the Bronn near miss in the prison cell would have been to establish Tyene's show character (which has aspects of Elia's character from the books based on info from readings) for future purposes (season 6) as well as to show us that the poison has an anti-dote. The need to show us there is an antidote may just have been to help us see how Myrcella was poisoned while Elaria survived, or, it might hint at Myrcella surviving because Trystane came prepared. We will find out in season 6.

There is no way to judge the timing because in neither case, fight in the gardens to prison cell, or departure of boat to death of Myrcella, do we have the slughtest clue how much time passed.

[Dizzy Walker]

If Myrcella survives because someone does have the antidote on the boat, this could be a replacement of  some events that happen to Myrcella in the books but not in the show.. in the books Myrcella gets a scar, maybe in the tv version,and she has some kind of brain damage or is paralysed instead of the scar from the poison not given soon enough. Maybe that is the intended end result, some kind of damage to Myrcella that is going to tick off Cersei in a big way..it would make more sense then killing her....