I love Cersei Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Statistics without elimination of outliers. Data from 06/19/2015. I would like to discuss this topic. Please comment. Ep. Votes Mean Median Deviation Title101 292 9 8.510 1.272 Winter is Coming102 298 8 8.225 1.140 The Kingsroad103 235 8 7.868 1.388 Lord Snow104 299 8 8.037 1.653 Cripples, Bastards, and Broken Things105 283 9 8.647 1.450 The Wolf and the Lion106 250 9 8.820 1.322 A Golden Crown107 246 8 8.171 1.610 You Win or You Die108 286 9 9.031 1.144 The Pointy End109 401 9 8.885 1.666 Baelor110 417 9 9.141 1.161 Fire and Blood201 579 8 7.617 1.439 The North Remembers202 408 7 7.091 1.849 The Night Lands203 447 9 8.566 1.334 What Is Dead May Never Die204 434 8 7.735 1.800 Garden of Bones205 424 9 8.248 1.476 The Ghost of Harrenhal206 446 9 8.161 1.876 The Old Gods and the New207 417 8 7.890 1.899 A Man Without Honor208 405 8 7.351 1.846 The Prince of Winterfell209 770 10 9.534 1.130 Blackwater210 919 8 7.675 2.113 Valar Morghulis301 789 8 7.586 1.403 Valar Dohaeris302 668 8 7.612 1.684 Dark Wings, Dark Words303 699 9 8.402 1.402 Walk of Punishment304 859 9 9.235 0.993 And Now His Watch is Ended305 695 9 8.820 1.183 Kissed by Fire306 754 8 7.309 1.727 The Climb307 757 7 7.139 1.862 The Bear and the Maiden Fair308 743 9 8.355 1.362 Second Sons309 1309 10 9.267 1.339 The Rains of Castamere310 1111 8 7.384 2.066 Mhysa401 698 8 8.178 1.374 Two Swords402 631 9 8.341 1.555 The Lion and the Rose403 622 7 6.992 2.000 Breaker of Chains404 669 8 7.771 2.158 Oathkeeper405 572 8 7.369 1.636 First of His Name406 709 9 8.779 1.357 The Laws of Gods and Men407 629 9 8.321 1.347 Mockingbird408 819 9 8.211 1.939 The Mountain and the Viper409 882 9 8.069 2.311 The Watchers on the Wall410 1064 8 7.557 2.515 The Children501 592 7 6.853 1.898 The Wars to Come502 466 8 7.030 2.012 The House of Black and White503 444 8 7.414 2.255 High Sparrow504 486 8 6.874 2.459 The Sons of the Harpy505 549 8 7.164 2.326 Kill the Boy506 753 6 5.417 2.961 Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken507 634 8 7.582 2.158 The Gift508 958 10 9.048 1.751 Hardhome509 954 7 6.107 3.042 The Dance of Dragons510 1071 7 6.108 3.258 Mother's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I love Cersei Posted June 21, 2015 Author Share Posted June 21, 2015 Note: The columns for median and arithmetic mean have been swapped by accident, obviously. Personally, I think it really interesting that the standard deviation has never been as high as for this season's finale. It seems to really be love or hate nowadays; what do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorpHDoc Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 Very interesting. It is the least liked finale out of all season finalea and you are right to point out the SD is quite high. But take a look at the season as a whole, it's SD are usually above 2 for each episode, whereas previous seasons it was under 2 (most of the time anyway). And as we know this season has introduced quite a bit of changes etc. These votes are taken from the forum I presume? As we know, most of us here are book lovers and we tend to be quite critical of any changes made in the show. I am not surprised by these statistics at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HodoringHodor Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 I don't really see anything surprising or think that they mean anything at all. People freaked out about Sansa's fate in episode 6 so it got bad ratings nevermind anything else, same for episodes 9 and 10. It's less "love or hate" and more kneejerking because things didn't go the way some people hoped and the bandwagoning effect. On IMDB episodes 9 and 10 were rated amongst the best in the show (with episode 8 taking the top place obviously) while episode 6 got the worst rating of the season - again due to Sansa. I'm more interested in the ratings of these forums for the next season, seeing how it'll spoil a lot of things from the books unless GRRM gets WoW out by then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldric Storm Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 I'm more interested in the ratings of these forums for the next season, seeing how it'll spoil a lot of things from the books unless GRRM gets WoW out by then. Martin said he'll have WoW out by then but we'll see. Personally if it's not out by then I'll be avoiding the show like the plague and even if it is out by then I'll be considering the possibility of skipping it all together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I love Cersei Posted June 21, 2015 Author Share Posted June 21, 2015 Thank you for your comments. These votes are taken from the forum I presume?Yes, they are. On IMDB episodes 9 and 10 were rated amongst the best in the show Not everything you say is true, especially about episode 10. Have a look at these figures based on the very same computation as the above. Data's been collected from IMDB.com about an hour ago. Episode Votes Median Mean Deviation Season 5, Episode 1 9865 9 8.320 1.951 Season 5, Episode 2 6889 9 8.329 1.959 Season 5, Episode 3 6264 9 8.391 1.955 Season 5, Episode 4 6722 9 8.540 1.985 Season 5, Episode 5 6910 9 8.463 1.940 Season 5, Episode 6 7959 8 7.392 2.627 Season 5, Episode 7 8322 9 8.918 1.676 Season 5, Episode 8 33771 10 9.802 0.926 Season 5, Episode 9 15080 10 9.188 1.830 Season 5, Episode 10 14739 10 7.959 3.148 I think that they do mean something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Blackmont Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 I will also be avoiding it. Or trying at least. A book is never the same when read after seeing it on a visual medium. My imagination will be squandered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettes Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 You cant look at the data from this forum when there are so many butt-hurt fans voting 1 for no reason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I love Cersei Posted June 21, 2015 Author Share Posted June 21, 2015 Since I'm a (non-butthurt, but anyways) fan myself, I value the data from this forum much higher than that of a general forum like IMDB. This forum's 510 episode: 1071 7 6.108 3.258 // All votes 895 8 7.113 2.561 // Without 1 and 10 votes IMDB's: 14739 10 7.959 3.148 // All votes 12782 10 9.025 1.697 // Without 1 and 10 votes If anything, the butthurtness shows a tad more on IMDB. Who would have thought? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettes Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 When 176 People (16,0%) rate this episode 1 I dont think you can use this forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I love Cersei Posted June 21, 2015 Author Share Posted June 21, 2015 13.3% (1957 people) on IMDB. So we can't use them either? ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettes Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 I dont know, maybe leave out the one-votes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I love Cersei Posted June 21, 2015 Author Share Posted June 21, 2015 See my edited post above: I conducted that experiment for 510. Left out the ones and the tens though, in order to stay as fair as possible. But I think it's unfair in itself to leave out people's votes. I guess most people that rated one weren't trolling at all, but wanted to express their disappointments. And why not? That's what these voting threads are all about, not? To express what one felt about an episode. I know that there is some people that do do sophisticated, well thought-out votes, e.g. having a system like: give 0-1 points for camera work, 0-1 for CGI, 0-3 for acting, and so on. But I guess most people are like me, and just vote what they feel. To me, if I don't like an episode, it really doesn't matter at all how beautiful the scenery was, or how good the acting was. If I do like an episode though, most likely beautiful scenery and good acting were involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancerman Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 When 176 People (16,0%) rate this episode 1 I dont think you can use this forum Though I really don't want to defend them, I think there definitely was two groups of people voting episodes 1's and 10's to balance each other out. That said I can understand someone legitimately thinking it was 10 a hell of lot more than thinking it was a 1. But it was probably going both ways. And that's something that occurs on IMDB frequently as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Blackmont Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 I always try to vote 3-7. Anything out of this boundary is episodes that were amazing, or trash.Rarely is there an episode where everything lines up just right to go one way or the other, not when you're thinking about writing, lighting, camera work, scenery, acting, directing etc... Even horrible episodes have redeeming qualities, and the best tend to have drawbacks. That said, it is usually safe to disregard anything in the 1-2 and 9-10 range. These are generally people who are making a statement, and not ranking the episode fairly. For example, UUU received an enormous number of 1's, this was people reacting to the rape of Sansa and ludicrous Dorne fight. In all fairness, I think that episode deserved a higher score, a 4 or 5 at least. But sometimes it's easier to say; "That sucked, thus the episode sucked, therefore I grant it a 1." Without considering all of the factors. Regardless, popularity rarely means anything. Lady Gaga and Ke$ha are famous, Paris Hilton is wealthy, and Michael Bay gets to keep making movies. w/e. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainTheo Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 I'm similar - even though I disliked season #5 compared to the other seasons, I only rated one episode (the fourth one) as low as 3, and that was after finding out in the next episode that Ser Barristan was somehow dead despite Grey Worm having just saved his life. Even only two episodes (Hardhome and one of the episodes in season #2) I rated as low as 4. This season has been mostly 5s and 6s from me, while earlier seasons were mostly 7 or 8. Only Blackwater, which I loved, did I rate a 10, with 2-3 episodes (such as the Rains of Castamere, A Golden Crown) I scored a 9. I reserve very high or low marks for extreme circumstances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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