Adaneth Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 The idea of Bran becoming the agent of evil and will be main villain of the story Is this a theory? Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twikee Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Rhaegar + Lyanna = Jon That being proven false would bring about much tears and salt and I would be nourished by it for years and years to come. :agree: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhoenixfromAshes Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Is this a theory? Really? Yup, by someone who wants Jaime to be the Azor Ahai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adaneth Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Yup, by someone who wants Jaime to be the Azor Ahai. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1000th Lord Commander Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 A+J = T If this theory were true, I think it wouold undermine Tyrion as a charecter and as a person. His major defining relationship is with his father, and to find out that Tywin wasn't his father would seem like a cheap trick to get tyrion out of the stigma of being a kinslayer. Tyrion as a charecter would be worse off if he found out that he was a Targ bastard, and it would undermine his relationships with Jamie and Cersi as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destroyer of Nations Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Anything that ends up with Jon sitting on the Iron Throne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adaneth Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 A+J = T If this theory were true, I think it wouold undermine Tyrion as a charecter and as a person. His major defining relationship is with his father, and to find out that Tywin wasn't his father would seem like a cheap trick to get tyrion out of the stigma of being a kinslayer. Tyrion as a charecter would be worse off if he found out that he was a Targ bastard, and it would undermine his relationships with Jamie and Cersi as well. Not that I'm a strong believer of that theory, although it is possible, but Tyrion's relationship with Cersei and Jamie is already undermined. Especially with Cersei is completely damaged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithras Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Anything that ends up with Jon sitting on the Iron Throne. I'd prepare for disappointment. Just in case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balerion the kitten Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Not that I'm a strong believer of that theory, although it is impossible for GRRM to do something so dumb, but Tyrion's relationship with Cersei and Jamie is already undermined. Especially with Cersei is completely damaged.1) Fixed that for you. 2) How is it damaged or undermined? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Blizzardborn Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Aerys II, some think he slept with Joanna Lannister, and he's not actually Tywin's son. It's a weird theory made by people who want Tyrion to ride a dragon, which is why I don't like it. It's not a weird theory and it's based on evidence in the text that I believe was deliberately put in by the author to make the CHARACTERS think he might be half-Targaryen. Doesn't mean he will be, but it's been very purposely set up to look possible. He doesn't need to be Aerys' son to ride a dragon. Targaryens do not have a monopoly on dragonriding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adaneth Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 2) How is it damaged or undermined? Well, she hates him, wants to get rid of him. There was always a power struggle between the two. She accused him of killing Joffrey and wants him dead. Cersei is a lost case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destroyer of Nations Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 I already have, don't worry. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jô Maltese Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Not that I'm a strong believer of that theory, although it is possible, but Tyrion's relationship with Cersei and Jamie is already undermined. Especially with Cersei is completely damaged. And so is his relationship with Tywin... Very much undermined already IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balerion the kitten Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 And so is his relationship with Tywin... Very much undermined already IMHO.Seriously? Do you really believe that or is that just something your saying to counter the argument for "Tywin and Tyrion's relationship will be destroyed should Tyrion be Aerys's son" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Viserys Targaryen IV Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 A+J = T If this theory were true, I think it wouold undermine Tyrion as a charecter and as a person. His major defining relationship is with his father, and to find out that Tywin wasn't his father would seem like a cheap trick to get tyrion out of the stigma of being a kinslayer. Tyrion as a charecter would be worse off if he found out that he was a Targ bastard, and it would undermine his relationships with Jamie and Cersi as well. This is true if the story ended after Tyrion killed Tywin, but the story is only @ 1/2 way done. You cant say it will ruin his arc when you dont know what the end of his story is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jô Maltese Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Seriously? Do you really believe that or is that just something your saying to counter the argument for "Tywin and Tyrion's relationship will be destroyed should Tyrion be Aerys's son" Wake up Balerion: the relationship between Tyrion and his father died out 3 books ago, with a crossbow bolt... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasha Steelsong Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 I get the whole Tyrion thing, though I think the evidence points more strongly to potentially Cersei and Jaime being Aryes' since the only contact we're sure of happened during the bedding and they are older than Tyrion. True something could have happened later but a large part of the reason I don't like it is it would validate Tywin's dislike of Tyrion and his determination to never have him inherit. While I'm no fan whatsoever of the idea that any of of Tywin's kids are fathered by Aryes, it would at least be more satisfying if it was the children he adored vs the one he hated for his whole life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigitalCount Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 When people say "it undermines the relationship" they don't mean it makes a previously good relationship bad. They mean it gums up a painful, layered and well-written relationship in some ways and oversimplifies it in others.As far as my picks:- Jaime as valonqar. So many people take this for granted despite it making exactly zero sense. - AJT, or any other AJ combo, but this especially. Tyrion's lineage is not intended to be in question.- For similar reasons, anyone other than Ramsay as the author of the pink letter. The mystery there is just how much of it is true. - I'll probably regret this, but any reenactment of AA being necessary to end the coming Long Night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FealtyToStannis Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Aerys+Joanna=Tyrion somehow manages to be more asinine/unlikely than Howland Reed being the High Sparrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FealtyToStannis Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 I would be very happy to learn that Mance as the author of the Pink Letter is false. I would have liked to believe that the Wilding's genuinely wanted to fight for Jon/Stannis/the North. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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