The Slayer of Lies

[sweetsunray]

9 minutes ago, Julia H. said:

 Your posts always make for fascinating reading with well thought out and logically explained arguments. It's an intriguing theory and it could make a great conflict of the heart for the "Slayer of Lies" to slay a lie about herself. The idea reminds me of the Greek tragedy Oedipus the King, where Oedipus looks for the truth and discovers the "lies" about his own past.  

Incidentally, I also agree that being Azor Ahai is not necessarily good news. 

Keep up the good work!

Thank you, Julia!

And exactly! It makes it a conflict of the heart. All 9 imo include tragedy.

Her sibling relation with Viserys was tragic, and his death more so.

Rheago never being born alive and to get to have his future: tragedy

Rheagar's death and his story sounds tragic, and Dany senses this. She romanticizes it immensely because of it. He's the brother she wanted and instead she had abusive Viserys. He might have died to get a third head of the dragon and this PtwP prophecy that either may not even have been necessary OR may turn out to be some devious hoax or mistake

Stannis: even though he so clearly won't be the savior, he too is involved in the death of his brother which eats at him, there's probably even more tragedy to come, and he actually is one of the few men with an army who's actually trying to fight for what really matters.

Aegon: well, anyone here who thinks he'll live to see spring? Tragic again when he ends up at opposing sides with Dany (while his intention was originally to start conquering of his own and have something to bargain with to marry Dany)

Drogo: she still misses him, the whole ordeal of MMDs ritual, all that Dany lost as a consequence of it

Greyjoy: the name alone sounds tragic, Aeron's fate is tragic, and all because Euron thinks he can be some emperor of Planetos through Dany

Jon Snow: tragic birth, never knowing his parents or even who they were (for the moment), and Jon and Dany may both learn they're actual kin and the sole surviving Targs  when it's too late, with one of them dying

 

[Ser Creighton]

11 hours ago, sweetsunray said:

Actually that question was rhetorical in nature. It's not a nigthmare to me. It disturbs her, but not a nightmare imo.

IMO:

I also did not say Euron is going to allow Vic control over the dragons. But Euron knew Vic would try to twotime him, and he's prepared for it. Vic won't get control of a dragon, but it will look like he wanted to steal one. It's a set-up, to get rid of Vic, but Euron can still say he sent those ships to her. A dragon may or may not join Euron, but it's possible Euron knows he'll get no dragon out of it. Euron is playing the long con.

And Dany chooses "fire and blood" in the end. She did many things she did not wish to do in aDwD and in the end decides she won't do it anymore. 

Well there are opinions and their are opinions and unfortunately some opinions count more than other. While your opinion may be it was dream or a fantasy, the author is of a different opinion.

"She found herself remembering her nightmare. Sometimes there is truth in dreams. Could Hizdahr zo Loraq be working for the warlocks, was that what the dream had meant? Could the dream have been a sending? Were the gods telling her to put Hizdahr aside and wed this Dornish prince instead? Something tickled at her memory."

See that "she"? Do you know why it is important? It' relays to the reader that this is in the third person which means the entity is speaking and relaying information. And who is the entity? Why it's the author of the story, the writer. So refereed to in the books by the entity as a nightmare. You understand the entity is never wrong right? That's why it's the all knowing entity and not the character or you or any reader for that matter. That is why the author relays the information and not you. You have an opinion, the author has the story, that's how it works.

“Ser Barristan, what are the arms of House Martell?”

“A sun in splendor, transfixed by a spear.”

The sun’s son. A shiver went through her. “Shadows and whispers.” What else had Quaithe said? The pale mare and the sun’s son. There was a lion in it too, and a dragon. Or am I the dragon? “Beware the perfumed seneschal.” That she remembered. “Dreams and prophecies. Why must they always be in riddles? I hate this"

See that "her" that's the author again, now you might be of the opinion she didn't shiver, but she did, that's why the author relays that to you.

Darrio's Golden tooth why is it a consistent reference? She is drawn to it. If you look up golden tooth in the books do you know what it will lead you too? A sun. A rather consistent theme with her, her Sun stars, a sun son, sun and moon.

 

Stone beast could be Jon Con it could be Sansa it could be something that never happens. Did the Dragon come to Dany? Maybe it still does, maybe it was drogon, though they seem to symbolize people. But the Lion sent the Dragon going the wrong way, or at least the mummers Dragon. Tyrion could be both. The future is not set and prophecies and visions do not always occur the way some think.

But at least we know one thing, and that was "she" had a nightmare.

[sweetsunray]

18 minutes ago, Ser Creighton said:

Well there are opinions and their are opinions and unfortunately some opinions count more than other. While your opinion may be it was dream or a fantasy, the author is of a different opinion.

"She found herself remembering her nightmare. Sometimes there is truth in dreams. Could Hizdahr zo Loraq be working for the warlocks, was that what the dream had meant? Could the dream have been a sending? Were the gods telling her to put Hizdahr aside and wed this Dornish prince instead? Something tickled at her memory."

See that "she"? Do you know why it is important? It' relays to the reader that this is in the third person which means the entity is speaking and relaying information. And who is the entity? Why it's the author of the story, the writer. So refereed to in the books by the entity as a nightmare. You understand the entity is never wrong right? That's why it's the all knowing entity and not the character or you or any reader for that matter. That is why the author relays the information and not you. You have an opinion, the author has the story, that's how it works.

“Ser Barristan, what are the arms of House Martell?”

“A sun in splendor, transfixed by a spear.”

The sun’s son. A shiver went through her. “Shadows and whispers.” What else had Quaithe said? The pale mare and the sun’s son. There was a lion in it too, and a dragon. Or am I the dragon? “Beware the perfumed seneschal.” That she remembered. “Dreams and prophecies. Why must they always be in riddles? I hate this"

See that "her" that's the author again, now you might be of the opinion she didn't shiver, but she did, that's why the author relays that to you.

Darrio's Golden tooth why is it a consistent reference? She is drawn to it. If you look up golden tooth in the books do you know what it will lead you too? A sun. A rather consistent theme with her, her Sun stars, a sun son, sun and moon.

 

Stone beast could be Jon Con it could be Sansa it could be something that never happens. Did the Dragon come to Dany? Maybe it still does, maybe it was drogon, though they seem to symbolize people. But the Lion sent the Dragon going the wrong way, or at least the mummers Dragon. Tyrion could be both. The future is not set and prophecies and visions do not always occur the way some think.

But at least we know one thing, and that was "she" had a nightmare.

Well argued, and I concede because of the evidence you laid out that it was a "nightmare".