princess_snow Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 1 hour ago, Darksky said: And you actually believed Cersei's story about that black-haired son? lol she was spewing BS That was my first thought when I first watched that ep. However she discusses that child with Robert in a later ep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lannister Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 Gendry is a commoner blacksmith. Even if he could get anyone to believe he's Robert Baratheon's bastard(that won't kill him for it), there's not a noble in Westeros that's going to give the time of day, much less bend the knee to some commoner blacksmith from the shit stained streets of Fleabottom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TepidHands Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 11 hours ago, princess_snow said: That was my first thought when I first watched that ep. However she discusses that child with Robert in a later ep. Indeed, they did discuss it. One of the showrunners' many lapses in continuity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Knows Nothing Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 I found two videos on this topic. The first one is a response to the video about the theory of Gendry's parents and the second one is the actual video of the discussion of Gendry's parents. Sorry I did it kind of backwards. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPEgaQ_OzCE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2b73AtTFrc Let me know what you think! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Stannis-The True King Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 On July 11, 2016 at 6:20 PM, Lady Knows Nothing said: I found two videos on this topic. The first one is a response to the video about the theory of Gendry's parents and the second one is the actual video of the discussion of Gendry's parents. Sorry I did it kind of backwards. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPEgaQ_OzCE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2b73AtTFrc Let me know what you think! Wow. That was awesome. I am now convinced Cerci is Gendry's mother. It also gave me hope that Gendry could become king. An unpopular opinion on this Forum, but one I unabashedly support. In fact I'd go even further and say he might even be Azor Ahai. Thanks so much for the videos! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam_Up_Bxtch Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 I think they made Gendry's mom have blonde hair to show more evidence to Ned that Black Hair > Blonde Hair so that later when Ned's daughters are having the conversation about Joffrey the spokes in Ned's head would begin turning upon hearing Sansa say Joffrey is nothing like his father and that she'll give him sons with beautiful blonde hair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scabbard Of the Morning Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 What if Gendry is the "beautiful boy" that LF gave to QoT? What if Arya wasn't the one who got stabbed? What if that's not Shaggydog because the head is too small? What if... What if people stopped pretending that D&D has the writing skills to plant subtle clues for future plot twists instead of never writing more than what's in the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matsuki Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 What's subtle about it? There is definitely a hint that Cercei may be the mother and when Varys is around, baby swaping/snatching is a possibility. Even if she's not and he's a bastard, he's the last surviving Baratheon heir so there is at least some degree of importance to him. I kinda wonder if he's supposed to replace Young Griff in the show...or at least take on some elements from him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scabbard Of the Morning Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 How is Gendry going to take over Young Griff's role? What power base is going to back him? Illyrio/Varys? Nope already pledged to Dany. Dorne? Nope unlike Young Griff, Gendry has no blood ties to the Martells. It's abundantly obvious from season 6's ending that Dany is going to take over Young Griff's role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RhaenysBee Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 I highly doubt it. And even if he is, it makes absolutely no difference, since because there's no proof and even more importantly, Gendry has been gone for 3+ seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonSnow4President Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 So if Gendry is Cersei and Robert's son, why isn't his hair gold (see Maggy the Frog Prophecy), and which of Joffrey, Tommen, or Myrcella wasn't really Cersei's (see Maggy the Frog Prophecy, 3 children)? How did Robert and Cersei fake a pregnancy for the one you choose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meera of Tarth Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 On 30/8/2016 at 3:26 PM, The Scabbard Of the Morning said: What if Gendry is the "beautiful boy" that LF gave to QoT? What if Arya wasn't the one who got stabbed? What if that's not Shaggydog because the head is too small? What if... What if people stopped pretending that D&D has the writing skills to plant subtle clues for future plot twists instead of never writing more than what's in the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Ghost of Someone Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 They can do anything on the show but it is doubtful they will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhollo Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 On 15.8.2015 at 4:51 AM, Ice Walker said: In the show, they rang bells for Sansa when she was born. Is it difficult to think that the news of a crown prince would spread anyway? Especially to the King's best friend and Warden of the North. I guess you uncovered the first plothole of the series by courtesy of D&D. Congrats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thi4f Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 Better question is: what if Gendry is in fact supposedly dead Aegon Targaryen, and spent last three seasons making money in order to hire Golden Company??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byfort of Corfe Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 On 9/6/2016 at 8:49 AM, thi4f said: Better question is: what if Gendry is in fact supposedly dead Aegon Targaryen, and spent last three seasons making money in order to hire Golden Company??? Yep, he's been saving all that Blacksmith money to finance a revolution! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ice Wolf of Loki Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 On 01/09/2016 at 7:01 AM, JonSnow4President said: So if Gendry is Cersei and Robert's son, why isn't his hair gold (see Maggy the Frog Prophecy), and which of Joffrey, Tommen, or Myrcella wasn't really Cersei's (see Maggy the Frog Prophecy, 3 children)? How did Robert and Cersei fake a pregnancy for the one you choose? Maybe Maggy's prophecy was deceptive and she only told her about the bastards they would have. Cersei was being her usually bitchy self at the time so Maggy may have decided "I'll screw with this bitch" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elisabetta Duò Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 On 1 agosto 2015 at 8:47 AM, Visceral Varys said: This has bugged me before. Cersei talks of her first born, the black hair, his death but then the prophecy mentions only three and all golden haired children. Math was never my best subject but even I can see that doesn't add up. So a continuity error makes sense which probably means they won't bring the black haired baby back into play, Gendry or not. However I would like to see his bicepts, I mean character, back again... In the books the first kid (the black haired boy she talks about with Cat) doesn't exist, he never lived... she realized she was pregnant and she planned and caused the abortion because she didn't want any kid by Robert. Later on, after she had Jamie's kids, she was twice prudent and had moon tea to be sure not to have any kid by Robert because people might notice the difference with the other kids and start wondering about the father. That's why Maggie talks about 3 kids. The whole 'I lost a child too' speech is just something they make Cersei say on the show to make her more 'human'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cron Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 On 9/9/2016 at 5:34 PM, Elisabetta Duò said: In the books the first kid (the black haired boy she talks about with Cat) doesn't exist, he never lived... she realized she was pregnant and she planned and caused the abortion because she didn't want any kid by Robert. Later on, after she had Jamie's kids, she was twice prudent and had moon tea to be sure not to have any kid by Robert because people might notice the difference with the other kids and start wondering about the father. That's why Maggie talks about 3 kids. The whole 'I lost a child too' speech is just something they make Cersei say on the show to make her more 'human'. As of right now, I'm inclined to agree with your conclusion, at least so far as the books go. There's a LOT of interesting talk (here and elsewhere) about the possibility that Gendry might be Cersei's son, but ultimately, the prophecy of Maggy the Frog that Cersei would have three children seems to be a huge obstacle to it, at least in the books. In the show, however, near as I can tell they don't seem to care about Maggy's prophecy about the number of Cersei's kids very much (in fact, it appears they have already violated it, as Cersei discusses her black-haired child not only with Cat but with Robert himself, as I recall), so it remains a very real possibility, and not much would surprise me at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elisabetta Duò Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 On 11/9/2016 at 9:55 AM, Cron said: the prophecy of Maggy the Frog that Cersei would have three children seems to be a huge obstacle to it, at least in the books. Yes, that's what i think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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