The King in Black Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 So last thread ended with discussion of Ben Affleck's rumoured increasing influence in the DC Extended Universe. That and Doomsday rumours. So continue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhom Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Like the title! :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiddler Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 So last thread ended with discussion of Ben Affleck's rumoured increasing influence in the DC Extended Universe. That and Doomsday rumours. So continue I honestly hope that the Doomsday rumors are just that, or it is just a cameo at the end to set up the Justice League movie or something. Adding Doomsday to this movie just seems like overkill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The King in Black Posted August 11, 2015 Author Share Posted August 11, 2015 Like the title! :thumbsup: Thanks. Seems fitting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The King in Black Posted August 11, 2015 Author Share Posted August 11, 2015 I honestly hope that the Doomsday rumors are just that, or it is just a cameo at the end to set up the Justice League movie or something. Adding Doomsday to this movie just seems like overkill. The rumoured version of Doomsday is a Zombie Zod, so I share your sentiments and wish they are just rumours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The King in Black Posted August 13, 2015 Author Share Posted August 13, 2015 https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://screenrant.com/batman-v-superman-wonder-woman-fight-scene-doomsday/&ved=0CB8QqQIwAWoVChMIjOGmufulxwIVEAWOCh06rwJp&usg=AFQjCNEW_BYZRDQ3FhaKXWocOR4ZS3oP0A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhom Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://screenrant.com/batman-v-superman-wonder-woman-fight-scene-doomsday/&ved=0CB8QqQIwAWoVChMIjOGmufulxwIVEAWOCh06rwJp&usg=AFQjCNEW_BYZRDQ3FhaKXWocOR4ZS3oP0A Ugh. They are still building this entire thing backwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myrddin Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Ugh. They are still building this entire thing backwards. I disagree. There needs a huge threat to not only get Bats and Sups to put aside their petty quarrel but justify the creation of the, um, dawn of Justice. The rumored antagonist accomplishes that while leaving the heavy hitters like Darkseid available for the proper JL movies. The idea of the Big Three coming together to combine brains (Batman), brawn (Superman), and heart (Wonder Woman in the form of skill/experience) is fantastic. Also, it gives Luthor a means to fight, without being the direct physical villain (please no robotic superpowered suit for him...). He makes a better orchestrator of the carnage than a participant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malik Ambar Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Doomsday is nothing more than Godzilla anyway, so why not just use him as a plot device to turn Batman v Superman into Batman and Superman ? Sounds good to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hanna Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 I agree with the two posters above ^. You need the huge, big baddy to explain why Superman, Wonder Woman and Batman will get together and have a common cause. Lex Luthor is not enough for that, although i hate the idea of a "zombie" Zodd, i think he will just be the material they create doomsday with, not actually him being a zombie. Unless they revealed something already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The BlackBear Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 I'm still perplexed by these superman logo-ed soldiers. Where exactly they fit in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The King in Black Posted August 17, 2015 Author Share Posted August 17, 2015 Possible theories include dream sequence, elaborate frame-up by Luthor, alternate future timeline, Bizzaro etc etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myrddin Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 I'm still perplexed by these superman logo-ed soldiers. Where exactly they fit in. I'm thinking Luthor frame up too. Some people will radicalize around any ideal. Any god. They're kneeling before him. Their god made flesh. I can see this "personal" army out there fighting in Superman's name (under the secret guidance of Luthor), but instead of spreading the good news of Superman's coming, they spread fear and probably add to Batman's reasons to take Superman down. The scene in the trailer is probably Superman finally tracking them down to confront their leader. And of course, they're the ones acquiring Zod's body, performing experiments, and creating a monster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancerman Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 Doomsday is a plot device and I have no desire to see the Death of Superman on screen. For some reason people like Doomsday, he's a credible threat, if you need to use him in a very plot specific way to further a means to an end, it's fine by me. Fanboys will eat it up, and I don't have to deal with that storyline.If they actually want to "kill" Superman, they can do it much later and with a better character so that the story has more meaning.Max Landis actually had a similar idea of using Doomsday to set up the universe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hanna Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 Doomsday is a plot device and I have no desire to see the Death of Superman on screen. For some reason people like Doomsday, he's a credible threat, if you need to use him in a very plot specific way to further a means to an end, it's fine by me. Fanboys will eat it up, and I don't have to deal with that storyline. If they actually want to "kill" Superman, they can do it much later and with a better character so that the story has more meaning. Max Landis actually had a similar idea of using Doomsday to set up the universe. It makes sense, they need a threat big enough that it takes all 3. And Doomsday is a pretty cool villain to put on screen. But yeah, i don't want the death of superman in this movie either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polishgenius Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 Also, it gives Luthor a means to fight, without being the direct physical villain (please no robotic superpowered suit for him...). He makes a better orchestrator of the carnage than a participant. Exactly. This has been in my head since Superman Returns. Luthor, despite being iconic, is a difficult villain to write for Superman on his own because their modes of operation are so far apart they're barely compatible (in the comics, I've usually enjoyed Lex more when he's taking on the Justice League as a whole or generally creating a wider level of chaos - like when he became president). Giving him responsibililty for Doomsday (I was gonna say control but control would be too strong) is good for both of them because it covers both their weaknesses as Superman villains. Though I don't really like the idea of him being created in an Earth lab. I really want the scene that opened the comic, of Doomsday bashing himself out of the underground tank, and spending the beginning fighting with one arm coz the other was still strapped up. All that stuff in Death of Superman was quite clever storytelling because it gave Doomsday some mystery and even a minor sort of character arc while maintaining him as just an unstoppable rage machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhom Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Okay... I can get on board with what you guys are saying; but let me throw this out there: Superman IV: The Quest For Peace. What's the appreciable difference between a Lex created Doomsday and a Lex created Nuclear Man? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The BlackBear Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Probably the effects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myrddin Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Okay... I can get on board with what you guys are saying; but let me throw this out there: Superman IV: The Quest For Peace. What's the appreciable difference between a Lex created Doomsday and a Lex created Nuclear Man? Batman and Wonder Woman. :) And I hope a much more layered story... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red snow Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Okay... I can get on board with what you guys are saying; but let me throw this out there: Superman IV: The Quest For Peace. What's the appreciable difference between a Lex created Doomsday and a Lex created Nuclear Man? Hopefully the execution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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