Nozlym Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 then where is the stone? and I do not think Ned will literally talk with him. fire eater just spun a ton of stark stone connections a few posts above another thought was that jon is in a comatose state, there is a quote from the books "still as stone" and there is the Shireen side of it, where she is the stone ingredient(with her greyscale(stonemen) that is needed to raise jon i:e mel burning her. only death can pay fore life also if u remember back in AGOT after Ned loses his head, rickon has a dream/vision of him in the crypts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceFire125 Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 What FE said. Also, the Stark's connection to being hidden (stone), is hinted by queen Cersei... “I glimpsed him once at Winterfell,” the queen said, “though the Starks did their best to hide him. He looks very like his father.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Eater Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 jon will finish his dream of walking down into the crypts of winterfell and Ned will tell him about his parentage and he will awake as a targaryen(dragon) here just read Fire Eaters thread http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/topic/97892-waking-dragon-from-stone-the-reveal-of-rlj/ I created a more refined version of the theory. is it possible that his dead body was carried back and buried inside the crypts then he reborn from there? Not physically, but he mentions in AGoT of a dream where he descends into the crypts of WF, scared of what is waiting down there for him, but he always wakes up before he can complete the dream. In a coma, he will complete the dream, and find Ned down there waiting to tell Jon the truth. The thread I posted goes into full detail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syrioforelseesforreal Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Dragons being plural could be an easy mistranslation, as it is ancient prophecy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nozlym Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 I created a more refined version of the theory. the 2 kings to wake the dragon, thats the first ive seen it mentioned involving jons ressurection criteria. but an easier take on it could just be stannis and mance. i know it seems bland but with the upcoming battle at Winterfell both of them have a good chance of not surviving, and thats 2 kings off the board. George did say that a lot of ppl are going to hit the road this book. just a thouht. their 2 deaths could just be the starting pistol for Jons reawakening to begin, like Mel seeing after all that Stannis isnt AA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirjalovic Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Melisandre does not always refer to the dragon part of the prophecy as being "dragons"- Also, prophecy is not always literate. It can be translated wrong and mixed up over time, especially when so many cultures share the same prophecy. The important thing is that it involves "stone" and "dragon(s)" and "waking" something. If Dany is Azor Ahai then she goes against the interpretation of Lightbringer being a burning sword and if she is TPtwP then she proves the interpretation of "prince" wrong. There is no reason to assume that Jon (or someone else) can't fulfil the prophecy in a less literate way too, especially when GRRM states- This does seem like the most obvious choice. However, I don't think it excludes another from fulfilling the same requirement in a less literate way dragon breath is lightbringer. Less literate way, right ? aemon himself said the prince might be lost in translation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Eater Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 the 2 kings to wake the dragon, thats the first ive seen it mentioned involving jons ressurection criteria. but an easier take on it could just be stannis and mance. i know it seems bland but with the upcoming battle at Winterfell both of them have a good chance of not surviving, and thats 2 kings off the board. George did say that a lot of ppl are going to hit the road this book. just a thouht. their 2 deaths could just be the starting pistol for Jons reawakening to begin, like Mel seeing after all that Stannis isnt AA. There is more pointing to Stannis winning the Battle of Ice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roswell Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 I always thought dragon waking from stone means Danny's dragons waking from petrified stone eggs. That's exactly what it is. Waking dragons (meaning more than one) from stone is the hatching of Drogon, Rhaegal, and Viserion from petrified eggs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nozlym Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 There is more pointing to Stannis winning the Battle of Ice. sure maybe he is going to win. my point is that 2 kings just dropping early on in the book could be what is needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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