baxus Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Let's carry on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Moff Mithrandir Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Thank goodness the break is over. Watching your national team lose Mauritania is never pleasant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baxus Posted September 9, 2015 Author Share Posted September 9, 2015 Isk said: That's still a big improvement for Markovic on his Liverpool form. I still can't believe we wouldn't keep him for EL games. We bought him because of his EL performances. His loan to Fenerbahce is not a surprising move. I'm sure he'd get to play his fair share of matches for Liverpool this season, but he's still young enough to greatly benefit and improve from one season of regular football. Turkish league is not at the level of the Premiership, but there are some great teams there and he will be playing in European competitions which would be great. Hopefully, Markovic gets a great season and plays regularly for Liverpool next season. MisterOJ said: With games starting next week, is the general thought across the pond that Liverpool will try and do well and win the thing, or just try and bomb out as quickly as possible? It depends a lot on whether Liverpool gets in the position to get into top 4 in the league or not. If they do, I'm quite certain they would drop Europa league, but if not then they'll do their best to win it and qualify for the Champions' League that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Moff Mithrandir Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 I would have absolutely no problem with Rodgers sacrificing the Europa League. We need to focus as much as we can on cracking that top 4. So if it means playing fringe players then so be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baxus Posted September 9, 2015 Author Share Posted September 9, 2015 To be honest, I'd love to see Liverpool win Europa League. It's no Champions' League but it's still a European trophy. It would get Liverpool that much wanted Champions' League spot for next year, it would boost players' moral, it would bring in some money to the club... There really is no downside to it. But winning it is going to be far from easy, with Spanish, Italian and Portuguese clubs taking it much more seriously than English clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Moff Mithrandir Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 True. I'd like to see that too but, you know how it is nowadays the premier league is so lucrative & finishing high is the main goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mormont Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 With CL qualification as the prize for the Europa, and the Premier League looking pretty tough, it makes some sense for a team in Liverpool's position to target that as a possible route to the CL. Particularly as it may offer direct entry to the group stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Antony Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 With CL qualification as the prize for the Europa, and the Premier League looking pretty tough, it makes some sense for a team in Liverpool's position to target that as a possible route to the CL. Particularly as it may offer direct entry to the group stage. Yeah I actually think Liverpool are probably the 2nd or 3rd best team in Europa league on paper and have just as much as chance (not that great) of winning that than getting top four. Would be such a stupid mistake to not take it seriously. Not that I have any confidence at all in Rodgers in Europe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sToNED_CAT Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Yeah I actually think Liverpool are probably the 2nd or 3rd best team in Europa league on paper and have just as much as chance (not that great) of winning that than getting top four. Would be such a stupid mistake to not take it seriously. Not that I have any confidence at all in Rodgers in Europe Not that you should have confidence in any English team in Europe. PL teams record in european competitions in last years is pretty abysmal. So Liverpool might have 2nd best EL team on paper, but they will still lose to some continental competitor they should on paper beat easily. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjornbert Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Yeah I actually think Liverpool are probably the 2nd or 3rd best team in Europa league on paper and have just as much as chance (not that great) of winning that than getting top four. Would be such a stupid mistake to not take it seriously. Not that I have any confidence at all in Rodgers in Europe Hmm, Napoli and Dortmund are obviously better. Liverpool should have a better team than Fiorentina but I think the latter is more likely to perform Edit: But Sevilla will probably win after dropping for CL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polishgenius Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Not that you should have confidence in any English team in Europe. PL teams record in european competitions in last years is pretty abysmal. So Liverpool might have 2nd best EL team on paper, but they will still lose to some continental competitor they should on paper beat easily. :) When you say 'in last years', you really mean 'last year', right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Antony Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 When you say 'in last years', you really mean 'last year', right? Yeah I agree, it hasn't been as bad as people make it out to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iskaral Pust Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Someone sent me this, apparently from the Daily Mail today: The 10 best paid players in the PL: 1. Wayne Rooney (Man Utd) £260,000-a-week 2. Sergio Aguero (Man City) £240k 3. Yaya Toure (Man City) £240k 4. Eden Hazard (Chelsea) £220k 5. David Silva (Man City) £200k 6. Mesut Ozil (Arsenal) £190k 7. Raheem Sterling (Man City) £180k 8. Cesc Fabregas (Chelsea) £170k 9. Kevin De Bruyne (Man City) £170k 10. John Terry (Chelsea) £160k Liverpool have only two players (Sturridge and Benteke*) above £100k and neither are close to this list. City's top five earners make £55 million a year. The league average per player is now £44k per week. Wages are a much clearer predictor of success than transfer fees, unfortunately for Liverpool. And David Silva is due a pay rise. Edit to add: *That overlooks Milner. I'm pretty sure he is our best paid player. I will shoot my source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mexal Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 I'm not sure how true that is given I've heard repeatedly that Ozil and Sanchez are on like 130k a week. Not really unexpected that the highest paid players are on the 3 teams with the most money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sToNED_CAT Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Yeah I agree, it hasn't been as bad as people make it out to be. Are we still talking about Europa league? The competition English clubs won once in last decade and twice since the end of Cold War? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Antony Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Meant how bad English teams have been made out to be in Europe in general Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polishgenius Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Are we still talking about Europa league? The competition English clubs won once in last decade and twice since the end of Cold War? You're the one who specifically changed the subject to 'Europe in general', so why are you being all snarky-snide now when we, you know, respond to you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mexal Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Reading that Courtois is out at a minimum two months with a knee injury. No real surprise that this happens the season Cech leaves. Begovic is a fine back up and I think he'll do well enough. Still, Chelsea woes worsen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calibandar Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Very big weekend looming.United vs Liverpool, Everton vs Chelsea, Crystal Palace vs City. Packed.The week after that I will be attending Spurs vs Crystal Palace, looking forward to that.Also in Spain, Atletico's very strong new squad plays at home against Barca. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davrum Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Someone sent me this, apparently from the Daily Mail today: The 10 best paid players in the PL: 1. Wayne Rooney (Man Utd) £260,000-a-week 2. Sergio Aguero (Man City) £240k 3. Yaya Toure (Man City) £240k 4. Eden Hazard (Chelsea) £220k 5. David Silva (Man City) £200k 6. Mesut Ozil (Arsenal) £190k 7. Raheem Sterling (Man City) £180k 8. Cesc Fabregas (Chelsea) £170k 9. Kevin De Bruyne (Man City) £170k 10. John Terry (Chelsea) £160k Liverpool have only two players (Sturridge and Benteke*) above £100k and neither are close to this list. City's top five earners make £55 million a year. The league average per player is now £44k per week. Wages are a much clearer predictor of success than transfer fees, unfortunately for Liverpool. And David Silva is due a pay rise. Edit to add: *That overlooks Milner. I'm pretty sure he is our best paid player. I will shoot my source. Oof. Sure pays to be a billionaire's plaything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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