Why Did LF marry sansa off to Ramsay?

[The 999th Sword of Braavos]

What did LF gain from this? Why not keep Sansa close by. 

[A Ghost of Someone]

What did LF gain from this? Why not keep Sansa close by. 

Well, that is the 64k question is it not? Logic has to be overlooked but the show wants us to believe that LF believes Cersei and King's Landing will never, ever learn that it was he who had Sansa and offered her, a known accused triator to marry her to Roose Bolton's son and heir. He seems to be trying to use her as a gift/alliance offereing to Roose in order to create  a new union: The North and The Vale.

 

Roose defeated Stannis but if the North mobilizes to overthrow the Boltons, he will need LF Vale troops to hold on to power. By giving Sansa to the Boltons, LF makes Roose feel like has all the power over LF and lets his guard down. LF then betrays and kills the Boltons.

 

By telling Cersie that the Boltons have Sansa, he gets past any suspicion of mischief by King's Landing when reports of a Vale army heading North are reported. LF asked to be made Warden of the North for defeating the Boltons AND putting Sansa's head on a stake.

 

Now, if LF would so carelessly let Sansa be married and have her virginity given/taken by someone else, then showfinger might actually place her head on a stake if she will not be his wife in order to appease the Iron Throne.

 

Bottom line, LF over reached, over gambled etc. Unless the storyline is butched with a complete lack of logic, LF is done for for this whole plan with Sansa.

[Fox Mulder]

This is the show forum so I don't want to ruin the books but really this did not make sense. LF wants Sansa as a tool to control the Vale and eventually the North and for himself. It makes no sense for him to hand over his greatest asset to the Boltons who have their own plans and ambitions that conflict with his own. Which I think is to sit the Iron Throne by using the North, the Riverlands and the Vale to (he controls two out of three and can only control the third with Sansa) conquer the Iron Throne from the much weakened Lannisters. Many say D&D are sexist I don't necessarily buy that I think they are just going for shortcuts and can perhaps be called lazy. But I do not think they are conscouislly sexist in the traditional sense.

[protar]

It doesn't make any sense. His plan was to use the marriage to tell Cersei that Bolton is committing treason so he can take an army to then north, and to adapt depending on whether Stannis or Bolton wins the battle for Winterfell. But in the case of the former - if Cersei has no clue what's going on up north, why not just spin a lie out of whole cloth? And in the case of the latter why not just wait till after the battle, solidifying the wounded victors with a powerful bargaining chip.

 

Also to note is that Bolton gets nothing out of the marriage, and yet does it anyway even though doing so constitutes treason. Supposedly Sansa's marriage to Ramsay lends the Bolton's legitimacy. But they have to keep the marriage quiet because...again treason. So no legitimacy is to be gained from the marriage. 

[Fox Mulder]

It doesn't make any sense. His plan was to use the marriage to tell Cersei that Bolton is committing treason so he can take an army to then north, and to adapt depending on whether Stannis or Bolton wins the battle for Winterfell. But in the case of the former - if Cersei has no clue what's going on up north, why not just spin a lie out of whole cloth? And in the case of the latter why not just wait till after the battle, solidifying the wounded victors with a powerful bargaining chip.

 

Also to note is that Bolton gets nothing out of the marriage, and yet does it anyway even though doing so constitutes treason. Supposedly Sansa's marriage to Ramsay lends the Bolton's legitimacy. But they have to keep the marriage quiet because...again treason. So no legitimacy is to be gained from the marriage. 

Excellent point. Unless the Bolton's are planning on declaring themselves Kings, which would be incredibly dumb for them since their greatest allies are not of the North. Their entire claim to legitimacy lies in the Iron Throne and the Lannister regime otherwise they are just traitors.

[Alayne's Shadow.]

Because... insanity disguised as plot. Also, SHOCK RAPE SCENE!

[Ingelheim]

It doesn't make any sense. His plan was to use the marriage to tell Cersei that Bolton is committing treason so he can take an army to then north, and to adapt depending on whether Stannis or Bolton wins the battle for Winterfell. But in the case of the former - if Cersei has no clue what's going on up north, why not just spin a lie out of whole cloth? And in the case of the latter why not just wait till after the battle, solidifying the wounded victors with a powerful bargaining chip.

 

Also to note is that Bolton gets nothing out of the marriage, and yet does it anyway even though doing so constitutes treason. Supposedly Sansa's marriage to Ramsay lends the Bolton's legitimacy. But they have to keep the marriage quiet because...again treason. So no legitimacy is to be gained from the marriage. 

 

I think Roose wants to be King in the North. So, the marriage would help him.

[GtrGbln]

To provoke Cersei into turning on the Boltons.

 

I actually thought it was pretty obvious personally. 

[Alayne's Shadow.]

 

I think Roose wants to be King in the North. So, the marriage would help him.

Yet, Roose doesn't have the support to declare independence in the North. His legitimacy comes from the Iron Throne. Moreover, if he plans on gathering support to his cause, then isn't it downright idiotic to allow Ramsay to rape Lord Eddard's daughter? Unlike Jeyne Poole, Sansa's the legitimate heiress to Winterfell. He says a marriage is a way to make alliances, but he drove Sansa to escape Winterfell with Reek. Again, stupid. But, gotta keep that plot-point, right? Roose says that the Starks are beloved in the North. He should be doing everything in his power to please Sansa. 

 

And if Sansa's the highborn Lady of Winterfell, then there's no point in keeping her locked up. Also, why weren't the Northern Lords at the wedding? Also, Reek's a traitor, there's no point in using him to take Sansa down the aisle, since he's not needed in this scenario to pass legitimacy, considering she's not FArya. 

 

Of course, there's a logical explanation for why there weren't any Lords at the wedding. Theon thinks in Dance that, were one of Lord Eddard's daughters, the Lords would attack the Bolton regime and never allow the marriage. Since the rape *HAD* to happen in the show, due to their agenda of shocking moments, they were erased out of existence, and this storyline was twisted to make it happen. 

[A Bong of Ice and Fire]

Here's how I justify it in my mind:

 

Littlefinger knows that sooner or later the Crown will learn that Sansa is in the Vale.  (He tells Sansa as they are leaving that he can't trust all the lords and ladies there.)  And then he'll be a known traitor.

 

Giving Sansa to the Boltons allows him to sell his story to Cersei and gives him plausible deniability in Sansa's disappearance.  It was his only play.

 

So the whole thing was done to save his own arse from Cersei's wrath.

 

Plausible?  Maybe?

[Channel4s-JonSnow]

I'm not sure exactly what his plan could actually be, it doesn't quite make a lot of sense at the moment. Overall his thinking seems to be to get all sides fighting each other, remove any threats and wait it out till a winner is decided and then be there looking like he was there helping them all the time so he can benefit.

Seems like he wanted to marry Sansa off to the Boltons, see if they win against Stannis and the North, if not then he still has Sansa onside and can marry her himself if Ramsey dies. 

The bit with Cercei I didn't quite understand because he's going to be in real trouble if she figures out he had her all along. Thats the dumb part.

[Stannis is the man....nis]

Here's where his plan also doesn't make sense say Stannis had won and named Sansa wardness of the North what does he do then? Attack WF? With Sansa in charge the whole North would rally to Stannis/Sansa's defense. Get Sansa to turn on Stannis? Why would she do that he just saved her, killed the men who killed her family, and put her in charge of her old home. An the Vale if he attacks with Sansa in charge why would the Vale follow him they are clearly on the pro-Stark side and would never harm Sansa? Join Stannis and try to turn on him later? That would kinda work but that would be gambling on the idea Stannis would let LF live and LF has got to know he isn't on Stannis like list

[Bobby b's bobby]

Bad writing

[Gendry_Goldeneyes]

because they didnt want to leave sansa out of the plot for a whole season like bran, and did not want to delve into the Winds of Winters stuff

[A Ghost of Someone]

Bad writing

To get the rape they claim to have planned for 3 + years. Well, now, they have to "deal with it".

[King Onion Knight]

For the lols

[Winds of Winter blow cold]

To make Sansa go through something bad enough to push her to Jon. More specifically to get some on screen heat between Sophie & Kit! Yes I went there...

[voodooqueen126]

It's Meta:

Because Sansa rejected St Tyrion

and because that's the only part of ADWD that D&D liked.

[Channel4s-JonSnow]

Here's where his plan also doesn't make sense say Stannis had won and named Sansa wardness of the North what does he do then? Attack WF? With Sansa in charge the whole North would rally to Stannis/Sansa's defense. Get Sansa to turn on Stannis? Why would she do that he just saved her, killed the men who killed her family, and put her in charge of her old home. An the Vale if he attacks with Sansa in charge why would the Vale follow him they are clearly on the pro-Stark side and would never harm Sansa? Join Stannis and try to turn on him later? That would kinda work but that would be gambling on the idea Stannis would let LF live and LF has got to know he isn't on Stannis like list

It sounds unlike Littlefinger to invade or attack anyone. Thats not his style. More than likely he would marry into Sansas family once it was safe to do so. 

[marsyao]

Because D&D said so