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How was KL under Siege? I looked up the Kingsroad, and theres two routes the lannisters could have taken. They could have sent supplies taken from the Riverlands and smuggled food from the reach easily into KL to prevent riots and stuff. The city's starving, but its like there more than one route into KL. http://th05.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/i/2009/354/f/7/Westeros_Map_by_carturello.jpg

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The Riverlands had been burned and all crops/animals were either in the castles or destroyed, so no food was going to come from there.  The Reach was controlled by Tyrells, who declared for Renly, so no food was coming from that direction until the Lannister-Tyrell alliance was arranged.  In addition to the siege, the lack of Lannister alliances pre-Blackwater was creating a real problem for KL.  They did have an alliance with the Martells via Myrcella's betrothal, but that didn't provide them with a good source of food and supplies.

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How was KL under Siege? I looked up the Kingsroad, and theres two routes the lannisters could have taken. They could have sent supplies taken from the Riverlands and smuggled food from the reach easily into KL to prevent riots and stuff. The city's starving, but its like there more than one route into KL. http://th05.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/i/2009/354/f/7/Westeros_Map_by_carturello.jpg

 

Riverlands food was burned to a crisp by the Lannisters, the rest was taken inside the castles. So, nope.. no food from RL. And the Tyrells weren't selling any food to KL while backing Renly.

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How was KL under Siege? I looked up the Kingsroad, and theres two routes the lannisters could have taken. They could have sent supplies taken from the Riverlands and smuggled food from the reach easily into KL to prevent riots and stuff. The city's starving, but its like there more than one route into KL. http://th05.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/i/2009/354/f/7/Westeros_Map_by_carturello.jpg

 

Yes but how many where under Lannister control?  The Reach is the major breadbasket of Westeros.  The Vale was staying out of the war and the Riverlands was on fire.

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Yes but how many where under Lannister control?  The Reach is the major breadbasket of Westeros.  The Vale was staying out of the war and the Riverlands was on fire.

I was thinking of having trusted smugglers buy the food from the northern part of the reach to ship it to KL. 

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The Riverlands had been burned and all crops/animals were either in the castles or destroyed, so no food was going to come from there.  The Reach was controlled by Tyrells, who declared for Renly, so no food was coming from that direction until the Lannister-Tyrell alliance was arranged.  In addition to the siege, the lack of Lannister alliances pre-Blackwater was creating a real problem for KL.  They did have an alliance with the Martells via Myrcella's betrothal, but that didn't provide them with a good source of food and supplies.

They could have had trusted smugglers buy from the reach, sneak it into their territory and ship it to KL. they could have also taken Maiden pool, and then used it to ship in resources from essos. 

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Pretty simple, it was really only "under siege" in the loosest sense. While the Tyrells were blocking the rose road the other ones really wouldn't have had much traffic. Tywin was capturing food (or just burning it) and feeding his army with it. The RL and North certainly wouldn't feed KL. The Vale was neutral. 

 

Stannis' army starts marching up from SE later too, so nothing could come from Dorne or the SL either. His ships end up blockading KL eventually but the siege proper doesn't last very long.

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They could have had trusted smugglers buy from the reach, sneak it into their territory and ship it to KL. they could have also taken Maiden pool, and then used it to ship in resources from essos. 

 

KL has 500K people. No way they can ship enough food to do so. Realistically all the Lannisters could do was bring stuff in from the Crownlands.

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They could have had trusted smugglers buy from the reach, sneak it into their territory and ship it to KL. they could have also taken Maiden pool, and then used it to ship in resources from essos. 

 

Apparently the Lannisters did not have pro-Lannister smugglers in the Reach to smuggle food for half a million people past the 60-80k Tyrell and SE army at Bitterbridge backing Renly. :rolleyes:

 

Which ships would they have used? The ones blocked in Blackwater Bay or compounded by Stannis at Dragonstone? And going though war torn territory with food for half a million people while the people in the territory have no food would go superbly of course. New tactic for Roose at the Ruby Ford or Harrenhal... attack food for KL and eat it yourself. Enough food to last years of siege on HH!!.

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Which ships would they have used? The ones blocked in Blackwater Bay or compounded by Stannis at Dragonstone? And going though war thorn territory with food for half a million people while the people in the territory have no food would go superbly of course. New tactic for Roose at the Ruby Ford or Harrenhal... attack food for KL and eat it yourself.

It's impossible to ship foodstuffs by land anyway. Not beyond fifty miles and even that is stretching it. The damn draw animals consume more than they can pull over these distances. An oxen would go through its cargo in about ten days - and makes about eight miles per day.

 

Prior to the railway, the only way to ship bulk products was literally shipping it.

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