RedEyedGhost Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 So, has anybody else finished it? I tried but couldn't find the old thread (the new search function sucks!). I really enjoyed it, but I was disappointed with how much was left unresolved (I was hoping it would be more miniseries than ongoing series). I hadn't intended to read the book before now, but just didn't have the time so I can't compare the two. The characters were excellent, and I thought the themes of loyalty and destiny were handled very well. They also did an amazing job showing how awful their world is: killing Frank Frink's (I love that stupid name, btw) sister and her kids, "Oh that's just ash from the hospital. They burn the weak and elderly on Tuesdays," the doctor "humanely" not turning in John Smith's son for immediate execution but giving him the drugs to do it at the right time, and everything about The Marshall (brilliantly portrayed by Burn Gorman). I thought the arrogance exhibited by Hitler with Wegener was great and disturbing at the same time, and it's very interesting that he's collecting the films too.For those that have read the book, does anybody travel between worlds like Tagomi did at the end? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martini Sigil Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 starting this tomorrow.... we opted for Jessica Jones first.... really dug the pilot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcbigski Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Just finished it. Quite well done. Going to have to look up the book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Pesci Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 I'm three episodes in, and really enjoying it so far. Well done across the board imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedEyedGhost Posted November 25, 2015 Author Share Posted November 25, 2015 Bump to see if anybody else has finished it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mashiara Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 I finished it and really loved it. I loved all the little details that made this alternate reality seem... well, real. Chillingly real, with mostly everybody having accepted their fate and treating the cruelties committed by the Nazis and the Japanese as an unavoidable and acceptable way of life, as long as it didn't directly affect them.The characters were excellently portrayed and I can't wait to see what happens next - I assume there is going to be a season 2 at some point?I haven't read the book but I'm planning on doing so soon. I hear the series is different from the book in many ways, I'm interested to see what the original story was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedEyedGhost Posted November 26, 2015 Author Share Posted November 26, 2015 They really did do a great job of conveying the atmosphere. It would be nice if they do some flashbacks to show how the population was subdued so completely in season 2. I haven't seen an announcement for it yet, but hope to soon. It has over 31000 reviews already, so I'm assuming it's doing well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myshkin Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Loved it. Really well done show. It's a shame Jessica Jones is getting all the headlines because this is a much better show in pretty much every aspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martini Sigil Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 I'm only on my 3rd episode.... had a crazy week.... what is this about bibles being illegal in the Reich?.... They were all Christians.... Hitler was a Roman Catholic.... That makes no sense... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myshkin Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 I'm only on my 3rd episode.... had a crazy week.... what is this about bibles being illegal in the Reich?.... They were all Christians.... Hitler was a Roman Catholic.... That makes no sense...Yeah, that struck me as odd too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 I saw Rufus Sewell two days in a row about town in the LA area which was really, really random. Once at a Trader Joe's and once at a mall. He was both times pushing around his wee one in a stroller and looking like he was on top of life. That is my invaluable contribution to the thread. I do want to see this pretty badly but don't have Amazon, so I wonder when I'll get to it. I've never read a PKD book, so I might use this as an excuse to do that one first before seeing this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myshkin Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Spoono, I suggest you just go ahead and get Amazon Prime. Seriously, it's well worth the money. Plus you get free 2 day shipping and Amazon Music on top of the streaming video content. But if it's not in the budget then I'm sure theoretically there's probably some way to see this show without a Prime account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvinus85 Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 5 episodes in. Really good. Gripping atmosphere throughout. I have so many questions, but I feel like the show will answer them if I'm patient.Regarding the bible thing, I'm not surprised that the Nazis would make them illegal. Any totalitarian regime that aims to have the entire population serve the regime would want to eliminate any kind of competition. The commies did it in Eastern Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Spoono, I suggest you just go ahead and get Amazon Prime. Seriously, it's well worth the money. Plus you get free 2 day shipping and Amazon Music on top of the streaming video content. But if it's not in the budget then I'm sure theoretically there's probably some way to see this show without a Prime account. Are you saying it's worth it just for this show, or are you making a broader argument for Amazon Prime? I feel like Transparent is the only other show from this relatively young entity that I've heard positively hyped. I do definitely want to see this show though, so I think I'll pursue one option or the other eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myshkin Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Are you saying it's worth it just for this show, or are you making a broader argument for Amazon Prime? I feel like Transparent is the only other show from this relatively young entity that I've heard positively hyped. I do definitely want to see this show though, so I think I'll pursue one option or the other eventually.not just for this show, but for the streaming content in general (plus the music, and shipping). Also, I wasn't a huge fan of Transparent, mostly because I'm just not into the directing style, but Mozart in the Jungle is really good, same with Alpha House, and Bosch was also good. Plus their Pilot Season program is a lot of fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvinus85 Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 I just finished and loved it. The characters were great, except maybe Joe Blake. He was a bit bland. But by the end of it I appreciated how they portrayed and developed most of the characters, even the Japanese chief inspector. I'm not sure about that ending with Tagomi. Did he just simply meditate his way into a different reality? I always expected some sci-fi element to the story, but it seems there is a fantasy element. And despite the part with Hitler, I don't think he is the man in the high castle, but he does fit the profile.For anybody who's read the book, I do have some questions about the world, even though I hope that season 2 would answer them:1) Why is there a neutral zone? And why so large?2) So the Nazis conquered all of Africa? And the Soviet Union, too? If they are the only ones to have developed nuclear weapons, I would think they would try to conquer the whole world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myshkin Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 My roommate and I were wondering who got the Soviet Union. We decided it was probably split like the US was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zelticgar Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Just finished binge watching it. Loved it and I'm at the point where waiting week to week to watch shows is starting to not work for me. Its getting to the point where I cant even tolerate waiting for The Walking Dead. I really enjoyed the character development for the Japanese Chief Inspector and the trade minister. I'm still confused about the tapes and the alternate reality aspects of the story and was a little disappointed that they did not solve some of those questions in season 1. Looking forward to Season 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcbigski Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 I'm only on my 3rd episode.... had a crazy week.... what is this about bibles being illegal in the Reich?.... They were all Christians.... Hitler was a Roman Catholic.... That makes no sense...Hitler wasn't a practicing Catholic, and the Nazis suppressed the Church in Germany. They were national socialists, not christian democrats.I just finished and loved it. The characters were great, except maybe Joe Blake. He was a bit bland. But by the end of it I appreciated how they portrayed and developed most of the characters, even the Japanese chief inspector. I'm not sure about that ending with Tagomi. Did he just simply meditate his way into a different reality? I always expected some sci-fi element to the story, but it seems there is a fantasy element. And despite the part with Hitler, I don't think he is the man in the high castle, but he does fit the profile.For anybody who's read the book, I do have some questions about the world, even though I hope that season 2 would answer them:1) Why is there a neutral zone? And why so large?2) So the Nazis conquered all of Africa? And the Soviet Union, too? If they are the only ones to have developed nuclear weapons, I would think they would try to conquer the whole world.They did a great job fleshing out most of the characters. Sure there were a couple of pure black SS guys, but there should be, because Nazis. Even Ubergruppenfuhrer Smith was humanized a bit.Funny, the thing I was thinking about, with all the rocket planes was how long it would take the Reich to pull off their version of the Apollo project? And if they still would have launched from Florida. While they had conquered other more equitorial territories, it'd be nice to have highly educated locals and rail lines etc from a large industrial base to the launch site.Not really up to speed with the new spoiler tags, apologies if I screwed it up.Not sure if the trade minister switching reality is necessarily fantasy or sci-fi. The films seem like evidence that crossing to other realities is possible somehow. Makes me wonder if the films, more specifically the one they got from the Yakuza, showed them a possible future, or an alternate past, where the Nazis attacked San Francisco eariler. Speaking of which, who was the guy that looked familiar that also got executed? Was it one of the Nazis from the embassy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calibandar Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 Watched the first episode online and as with the Expanse, my main feeling was it is quite dull.Intriguing in premise, but dull and slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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