The Lord of the Crossing Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 The Starks used to have the title of the Kings of Winter. If we have a Long Night and Long Winter approaching which will spread as south as Dorne, do you think it's possible that the Starks will be the de facto rulers since they are the only ones with the know-how to survive the winter?Leave your thoughts below.Will the snows reach Dorne? It's hard to say. There are others who know how to survive the snows. Besides, the Children of the Forest held some of the lands back then. They knew how to live with snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarkofWinterfell Posted December 15, 2015 Author Share Posted December 15, 2015 Will the snows reach Dorne? It's hard to say. There are others who know how to survive the snows. Besides, the Children of the Forest held some of the lands back then. They knew how to live with snow. It'd be interesting to see in the next two books whether this is true. If the Others return and there is another Long Night during this winter that is approaching, then one would have to assume that if the Others are any threat, that their reach would extend as south as Dorne.Otherwise, people can just evacuate their keeps and move south for the winter and escape the Others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lord of the Crossing Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 It'd be interesting to see in the next two books whether this is true. If the Others return and there is another Long Night during this winter that is approaching, then one would have to assume that if the Others are any threat, that their reach would extend as south as Dorne.Otherwise, people can just evacuate their keeps and move south for the winter and escape the Others. They could move south, this is true. That could create problems with overcrowding in the south and fierce competition for limited resources. Dorne is limited as most of its lands are not good for food production. The Others and the wights can only advance when the temperature dips to freezing, otherwise, the wights will decompose and the Others will melt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bright Ancalagon Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Hes.For about a day, during the time of Dance with dragons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRANDON GREYSTARK Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 As a Stark fan boy I must agree . The Starks ruled all Westeros ,it is present in the Stormland legend about the building of Storm's End and the Reach's legend of Brandon of the bloody blade and using Grimm's Law of Linguistics the B in the name Bran softens and Bran becomes Lann, like Lann the clever of the Rock fame . And maybe the nameless Grey King, with his gray eyes, of the Iron Islands was a Stark . IT IS KNOWN . LOL!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Sidious Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 Good gosh, no. The Starks only got the Boltons to bend their knees a thousand years ago. They have never, ever come close to ruling all of Westeros. House Stark is not the equal of House Targaryen. Only the Targaryens have ever ruled all of Westeros. They built the 7 kingdoms and their capital city of King's Landing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinotaurWarrior Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 On 11/25/2015 at 1:23 AM, Sullen said: Your theory holds as much validity as my theory of the Ironborn ruling all of the Westerosi coastline. The appendix to AGoT actually says their reach went as far as the summer isles. It's unclear how legendary this story is, since it comes from just before the targaryen Era, but also makes no sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelittledragonthatcould Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 4 minutes ago, MinotaurWarrior said: The appendix to AGoT actually says their reach went as far as the summer isles. It's unclear how legendary this story is, since it comes from just before the targaryen Era, but also makes no sense. Sure it does. Capture one of the Summer Isles and make an Ironborn its Lord just like what happened to the shield islands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Varys Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 A much better explanation for the title 'King of Winter' would be that the Starks were the petty kings in the North (while there were still Red Kings, Barrow Kings, Warg Kings, Marsh Kings, etc.) to whom you turned in (very harsh) winter(s). We know Winterfell was raised around some hot pools and wells, so where else might a sizable part of the population of the North might have spent winter? When the snows were rising in the old days many a lord or king (or at least their smallfolk) might have traveled to Winterfell and asked for the protection and hospitality of the Starks 'until the snows melt' or something like that. Thus the Starks could have been the Kings of Winter in the sense that their kingdom actually grew to enormous size in winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luddagain Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 Dualism is a core element of the whole sage Ice AND fire. A king of Winter must be offset by a King of SUMMER Thus if the Starks ruled Winter who ruled Sunner. in fact we KNOW. It was Garth Greenhand, the everlasting highly fertile King of Summer. Thus the earliest days (CoF) the Starks rules the North and Winter and the Greenhands ruled the South and Summer. Now we know that certain houses in the Reach have greenhand blood - Florent, Tyrell etc but two stand out for me - Sam, the probable eventual rightfull heir to the Reach via his mother and the Manaderlys who are "Knights of the green garter or some such. They were driven out from the Reach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tugela Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 On 11/24/2015 at 1:21 PM, StarkofWinterfell said: The Starks used to have the title of the Kings of Winter. If we have a Long Night and Long Winter approaching which will spread as south as Dorne, do you think it's possible that the Starks will be the de facto rulers since they are the only ones with the know-how to survive the winter? Leave your thoughts below. No, because if its cold in Dorne, the North will be snowbound. They will starve. With a long Winter the North is the least equipped to survive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarkofWinterfell Posted June 13, 2016 Author Share Posted June 13, 2016 32 minutes ago, tugela said: No, because if its cold in Dorne, the North will be snowbound. They will starve. With a long Winter the North is the least equipped to survive. Except if the snows reach as far south as King's Landing in the next book who will be the one laughing then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tugela Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 2 hours ago, StarkofWinterfell said: Except if the snows reach as far south as King's Landing in the next book who will be the one laughing then? Not the North, because snow there be 30 feet deep and they will all have frozen to death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devilish Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 Well actually Cregan Stark 'ruled' Westeros for 6 days. He was a Stark with actual brains, a rare thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydney Mae Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 On 6/12/2016 at 3:38 PM, Lord High Papal said: Good gosh, no. The Starks only got the Boltons to bend their knees a thousand years ago. They have never, ever come close to ruling all of Westeros. House Stark is not the equal of House Targaryen. Only the Targaryens have ever ruled all of Westeros. They built the 7 kingdoms and their capital city of King's Landing. Agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarkofWinterfell Posted June 16, 2016 Author Share Posted June 16, 2016 On 6/13/2016 at 1:43 AM, Luddagain said: Dualism is a core element of the whole sage Ice AND fire. A king of Winter must be offset by a King of SUMMER Thus if the Starks ruled Winter who ruled Sunner. in fact we KNOW. It was Garth Greenhand, the everlasting highly fertile King of Summer. Thus the earliest days (CoF) the Starks rules the North and Winter and the Greenhands ruled the South and Summer. Now we know that certain houses in the Reach have greenhand blood - Florent, Tyrell etc but two stand out for me - Sam, the probable eventual rightfull heir to the Reach via his mother and the Manaderlys who are "Knights of the green garter or some such. They were driven out from the Reach. Very true. My theory is that the Starks ruled Westeros during the Long Night, which lasted a generation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pain killer Jane Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 On 11/24/2015 at 1:36 PM, aryagonnakill#2 said: I tend to think the lady with the dragons will be in charge, along with some people. Now if your asking about the first Long Night, that's a more interesting question. Whoever forged Lightbringer would seem to be the leader people would gather around. Hmm....I have the sneaking suspicion that Dany is the enemy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Wraith Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 3 hours ago, Pain killer Jane said: Hmm....I have the sneaking suspicion that Dany is the enemy. Things certainly do seem to be heading in that direction. Unleashing fire and blood to Westeros certainly isn't going to improve things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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