purple-eyes Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Was Baelor using a spear as his main weapon? a Martell tradition by the way. or he broke somebody's spear somewhere and gained this name?I remembered he unhorsed Daemon Blackfyre in jousting. not defeated him using a spear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon's Queen Consort Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 I always thought that it was because of his jousting accomplishments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Creighton Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Was Baelor using a spear as his main weapon? a Martell tradition by the way. or he broke somebody's spear somewhere and gained this name?I remembered he unhorsed Daemon Blackfyre in jousting. not defeated him using a spear. Nope that is where he got his name, spear and lance are often synonymous, lancia spezzata "broken lance" or "broken spear". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuvuuia Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 I guess it should stay between him and Jena Dondarrion if seriously, I think it is from the World book: he earned the nickname during the tourney on first Danaerys's wedding/betrothal when he defeated multiple opponents and Daemon in the final round = broke their spears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple-eyes Posted November 27, 2015 Author Share Posted November 27, 2015 I always thought that it was because of his jousting accomplishments.but they use lance, not spear, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple-eyes Posted November 27, 2015 Author Share Posted November 27, 2015 Nope that is where he got his name, spear and lance are often synonymous, lancia spezzata "broken lance" or "broken spear".ah, complicated italian words........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light a wight tonight Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 but they use lance, not spear, right?"Spear" is an inclusive term, covering several similar weapons. A lance is a spear used from horseback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorian Martell Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Breakspear sounds a bit better than snap lance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AryaGonnaEatThatDeadFatGuy Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Breakspear sounds a bit better than snap lance i couldn't disagree more. Snap Lance is quite possibly the coolest name. Snap Lance sounds like the kind of guy who would bring the sunglasses to westeros just to David Caruso all his jousting victims Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorian Martell Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 i couldn't disagree more. Snap Lance is quite possibly the coolest name. Snap Lance sounds like the kind of guy who would bring the sunglasses to westeros just to David Caruso all his jousting victimsThen sir, we must agree to disagree. To me it sounds like the name of a male pornographic actor. This in no way negates the whole sunglasses bit though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuvuuia Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 i couldn't disagree more. Snap Lance is quite possibly the coolest name. Snap Lance sounds like the kind of guy who would bring the sunglasses to westeros just to David Caruso all his jousting victimsThen sir, we must agree to disagree. To me it sounds like the name of a male pornographic actor. This in no way negates the whole sunglasses bit though To me it sounds like a name for an Australian outlaw. Snap Lance the bushranger. I dunno what would be a Westerosi equivalent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AryaGonnaEatThatDeadFatGuy Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 To me it sounds like a name for an Australian outlaw. Snap Lance the bushranger. I dunno what would be a Westerosi equivalentNow it's sounding more like a porn star with Snap Lance the bushranger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marten Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Wouldn't it be that he broke his own lance? The point of jousting is afterall to hit the opponent with your own lance, not cut the other one in half or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuvuuia Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 The quote is:The eldest, Prince Baelor, won the name Breakspear at the age of seventeen, following his famous victory at Princess Daenerys’s wedding tourney; he defeated Daemon Blackfyre in the final tilt.not clear whos lance/s was/were broken (hm, no porn innuendo here) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mediterraneo Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Nope that is where he got his name, spear and lance are often synonymous, lancia spezzata "broken lance" or "broken spear".Well, in the case of the name "lanze spezzate" I feel it doesn't refer to the broken weapons but to the "broken" formations these individually recruited mercenary were from.One name for the most basic cavalry squad unit in a lot of places and times in european middle age was called the "lance".They were mounted fighters with experience and without a captain to mediate their allegiance to their payer, be it MIlan's comune or other employer, which organized them in new squads ("lanze") after recruitment, as opposed to contracting whole mercenary formations with their own (often ambitious) commander. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorian Martell Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 To me it sounds like a name for an Australian outlaw. Snap Lance the bushranger. I dunno what would be a Westerosi equivalent.I had no idea that Australian outlaws took their naming cues from gay porn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VicAndTheSquidSquad Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Lance and spear are synonyms. In Hungary we use the same words for them. *not synonyms, but lance is a type of spears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Creighton Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Well, in the case of the name "lanze spezzate" I feel it doesn't refer to the broken weapons but to the "broken" formations these individually recruited mercenary were from.One name for the most basic cavalry squad unit in a lot of places and times in european middle age was called the "lance".They were mounted fighters with experience and without a captain to mediate their allegiance to their payer, be it MIlan's comune or other employer, which organized them in new squads ("lanze") after recruitment, as opposed to contracting whole mercenary formations with their own (often ambitious) commander.Does it matter it's a nick name point being spear or lance are interchangeable, not giving the origin here. I had no idea that Australian outlaws took their naming cues from gay porn. Well lets take a look at Mad Max, We have the People Eater, Rictus Erectus, The Organic Mechanic, Slit (yes that's a name), Max Rockatansky, The Humungus, The Master, The Blaster, Aunty Entity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorian Martell Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Well lets take a look at Mad Max, We have the People Eater, Rictus Erectus, The Organic Mechanic, Slit (yes that's a name), Max Rockatansky, The Humungus, The Master, The Blaster, Aunty Entity.Truth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great and Mighty Poo Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 I thought it was because daemon broke 7(the story goes with each telling) lances on him. Even if it's not that's why in my book. And nothing will tell me other wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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