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Who is the hooded man in Winterfell


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A fascinating theory is that the hooded man is actually Theon himself.   There are tons of threads already existing about this and many really good ideas regarding the ID.  As I recall there are 4 viable candidates.    I think it's even more interesting why the hooded man was in Winterfell and allowed himself to be seen by Theon.   Just to call him a name?   

Let's see, the Northman with the BWB, The Northman escorting Ned's bones, HR, a couple of Maesters, Robett Glover and pretty much every character missing in the series..   I think the most plausible candidate is the Northman who joined up with the BWB.  (I apologize, I could only remember Hallis Mollen and I'm not 100% he's this guy or the one escorting Ned's bones)   As it goes, this guy isn't with LSH when she takes Brienne and Co captive.   He would know Theon well enough to bad mouth him to his face.    

If you don't get any of the scholars to reply with a long persuasive argument try searching--if you can search that is!   My forum functionality sucks on it's best day since the last update.   But good luck on this it is a neat topic to get into.   

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Harwin.  I think people are just wanting it to be somebody special like Benjen or Howland or the Blackfish even though there is no evidence and it would make no sense.  It actually being Theon himself is interesting but there's no evidence for it.  

That's it, Harwin!   Thanks Pancakes.    I kept thinking Harlan and knew that wasn't right.   For all it's worth I think Harwin's being there and speaking to Theon is pretty special all by itself.   Where the BWB are there is sure to be righteous justice.    At least the original BWB at any rate.   Harwin at Winterfell indicates that the BWB is entirely aware of what's going down and has opted to lend a hand in ridding the North of those pesky Boltons.    My line of logic adds that if the BWB is at Winterfell we will be seeing a mysterious and knowledgeable Crannogman very soon.   Though the other theories are interesting and fun to play with, I like this the best of all.    There may be justice for the Starks after all.     

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I'd think Theon saw Benjen, and heard his voice, enough during his decade at Winterfell that he'd have recognized him despite the hood.

I thought Theon did recognize the hooded man?   He just doesn't ID the guy for us to make the determination definitively.   

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A fascinating theory is that the hooded man is actually Theon himself.   There are tons of threads already existing about this and many really good ideas regarding the ID.  As I recall there are 4 viable candidates.    I think it's even more interesting why the hooded man was in Winterfell and allowed himself to be seen by Theon.   Just to call him a name?   

Let's see, the Northman with the BWB, The Northman escorting Ned's bones, HR, a couple of Maesters, Robett Glover and pretty much every character missing in the series..   I think the most plausible candidate is the Northman who joined up with the BWB.  (I apologize, I could only remember Hallis Mollen and I'm not 100% he's this guy or the one escorting Ned's bones)   As it goes, this guy isn't with LSH when she takes Brienne and Co captive.   He would know Theon well enough to bad mouth him to his face.    

If you don't get any of the scholars to reply with a long persuasive argument try searching--if you can search that is!   My forum functionality sucks on it's best day since the last update.   But good luck on this it is a neat topic to get into.   

Isn't the name of the chapter "The Ghost in Winterfell"? The title irrelevant unless the hooded man is a ghost. In ASOIAF the name of the chapter always refers to the POV character. ex: The Merchant's Man (Quentyn Martell), The Lost Lord(Jon Connington), The Watcher(Areo Hotah). See how the chapter name is merely a descriptive title for the character and not the chapter itself. The only 'ghost' in the chapter is the hooded man and since that's the title, it has to be Theon.

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Isn't the name of the chapter "The Ghost in Winterfell"? The title irrelevant unless the hooded man is a ghost. In ASOIAF the name of the chapter always refers to the POV character. ex: The Merchant's Man (Quentyn Martell), The Lost Lord(Jon Connington), The Watcher(Areo Hotah). See how the chapter name is merely a descriptive title for the character and not the chapter itself. The only 'ghost' in the chapter is the hooded man and since that's the title, it has to be Theon.

See OP?   There are lots of good and unexpected arguments for all the likely suspects.   I thought forever Maester Luwin was the Hooded Man in that I didn't actually see him die.   Here is yet another persuasive argument for the Theon Durden theory.    If you can find any of the old threads that really argue this stuff you will be amazed.   To Lord of Westeros, yes this is good.   My only qualms with this are that Theon refers to himself as the Ghost of WInterfell a few times upon his arrival whereas the Hooded Man isn't clearly described as a ghost at all, but is just a hostile person Theon isn't surprised to run into (ie, the Hooded Man is just a passing character not the culmination of the chapter) and what then is Asha's sacrifice in her chapter.    I'm not cutting you down at all.   You have me at a disadvantage in that i listen to the books and haven't read them in their entirety with my eyes so I didn't know the chapters even had real titles until fairly recently in a Hooded Man thread now that I think about it.   The titles could have been clearly spoken, but I was so wrapped up in the story I didn't notice.    We listeners don't enjoy the luxury of undivided attention to all this.   

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 I think the most plausible candidate is the Northman who joined up with the BWB.  (I apologize, I could only remember Hallis Mollen and I'm not 100% he's this guy or the one escorting Ned's bones)   As it goes, this guy isn't with LSH when she takes Brienne and Co captive.   He would know Theon well enough to bad mouth him to his face.   

Brienne doesn't know who Harwin is, but I would be shocked if he is not the northman in service to LSH at the end of AFFC.

AFFC Brienne VIII

Another of the outlaws stepped forward, a younger man in a greasy sheepskin jerkin. In his hand was Oathkeeper. "This says it is." His voice was frosted with the accents of the north.

Earlier in the chapter Thoros mentions Harwin when discussing Cat's revival.

"When we found her by the river she was three days dead. Harwin begged me to give her the kiss of life, but it had been too long. I would not do it, so Lord Beric put his lips to hers instead, and the flame of life passed from him to her. And ... she rose. May the Lord of Light protect us. She rose."

The young northman also serves as LSH's interpreter during Brienne's "trial".

Her voice was halting, broken, tortured. The sound seemed to come from her throat, part croak, part wheeze, part death rattle. The language of the damned, thought Brienne. "I don't understand, what did she say?"

"She asked the name of this blade of yours," said the young northman in the sheepskin jerkin.

 

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First time I read the book I thought, “Benjen has finally shown up” because he had been missing since the first book.

Then I read some of the ideas people had posted about the hooded man. Then re-read books a few times.

Once I thought he might be Robett Glover come to speak with Manderly. Someone pointed out to me that Glover is probably with Manderly forces. Waiting.

Another time I thought Alliser Thorne because I think he pulled a switch in the stable & didn’t go ranging. A poster kinda convinced me that Thorne was most likely at CB pulling the strings on Jon’s assassination attempt.

Blackfish, that one didn’t work out either. I couldn’t figure out how BF would be able to get into WF. His accent would be wrong, among other things.

I never bought into the Durden theory.

Now, I have settled on he was just a man put in place to muddy the waters about the killings going on in WF.  What I mean by that is back when Theon took WF and Ramsey was pretending to be Reek there were 3 killings in WF. In the chapter “A Ghost in WF” there are 4 killings with the 5th one happening in Theon I.

Theon says:

“It all seemed so familiar, like a mummer show that he had seen before. Only the mummers had changed. Roose Bolton was playing the part that Theon had played the last time round, and the dead men were playing the parts of Aggar, Gynir Rednose, and Gelmarr the Grim. Reek was there too, he remembered, but he was a different Reek, a Reek with bloody hands and lies dripping from his lips, sweet as honey. Reek, Reek, it rhymes with sneak.”

I don’t think the man was Hallis, the one in charge of Eddard’s bones, because I think Eddard’s bones were put into the crypt between the time Ramsey burned WF and the Bolton’s returned for the wedding.

Whoever the man is, he knew Theon. He placed his hand on his dagger and said, “Theon Turncloak. Theon Kinslayer” and accuses Theon of being false. To me that sounds like something Blackfish would say. I just can't come up with a rational explanation for BF to be in WF.

Anyhoo, I like reading about the hooded man topic.

 

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